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Paladin in 10.5
theccline
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Hey guys I was curious how do we fair in 10.5 in both pve and pvp? Are we still needed in a group or is the gf just completely the better option now.
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Some might say the Tankadin is a dead class. I would agree, assuming you lack gear. However, if you have some gear, like Bondings, some decently good enchants (R8+), and some weapon enchants, you should be fine for tanking most content.
I have actually found tanking ESvard easier on a Paladin than on a GF. However, my Tankadin is running R10 Radiants, Elf's Dragonheart build, a T. Feytouched, and R12 Bondings with a War Boar, so take this with opinion with a grain of salt.
Healadins are *too* balanced and definetly suffer versus the DC.
Sure, Healadins heal well, do "some" chip damage, and have some buffs. But each of them has their own issues.
For the healing, the problem is, that most classes get oneshotted or don't get hit, which means healing is useless. Lifesteal is also a big factor as to why most healers have been phased out. I only really remember Healadins being useful in the Demogorgons and maybe Svardborg, but in most dungeons, a DC with DG with Seal and Bastion should be more than enough to keep people afloat.
Who brings a Healadin to do damage? (and if you're going to say Draco, he plays a Tankadin. :P)
The Healadin has Aura of Courage, Aura of Wisdom, Aura Gifts, and the DevOP Bane as their biggest buffs. Aura Gifts requires investment in the OP, whereas EmpBtS/D-DG/FF/HG require powerpoints (which are easier to get). DevOP Bane is slow and only applies to one player, wheras EmpBtS/FF/D-DG/HG affect the entire team. Wisdom and Courage are both nice, but raw damage bonuses tend to be more effective for an entire team than a cooldown bonus and an extra hit based off HP.
TL;DR:
Tankadin is fine, Healadin is not.
@rjc9000 What do you mean by too balanced? Is it really that bad for Healadins in 10.5? I really hate that people always want DC and not even consider taking both DC and DevOP. I'm preparing for FBI (PS4) but I won't be running it with pugs for sure. On my DevOP I'm usually running with DC anyway (CN, eToS) so I go as buff/DPS or if there's no tank, as a tank on bosses instead of buff/debuff. To be honest I wouldn't even bother trying FBI without DC after reading how difficult it is.
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The issue I see with the Healadin is that their massive AoE heals tend to be unecessary in 5 player dungeons, which is their main feature. Healadins can easily heal for 150K+ HP with little effort, which is an instaheal, sure, but . Their buffs tend to pale in comparison to that of a DC, which is why I feel the Healadin is "too" balanced (if DevOP Bane applied faster and in a AoE ala Aura of Courage, DevOP would actually be pretty decent).
Granted, I should have rephrased my previous statement better, as most teams will want a Paladin complimenting a DC and/or GF. I also am looking at it from the perspective of a reasonably geared player on PC, which means many have high lifesteal and/or healing insignias, and would just want damage buffs (of which DCs tend to provide more of compared to a Healadin). (Oh hai Sunny! Loved your TR guide, by the way, as much as I sucked at the class.)
OP generally has it easier tanking that GF, I'm not going to lie. Being an ITF + meatshield is how I feel about my Tactician, but it definetly has its purpose in runs, and if it makes me AD, then I'm not going to complain too much.
Having recently created a GF I was amazed at the difference in the quality and relevance of their feat options.
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
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http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1223142/a-crazy-idea-for-bis-pve-acdc
Note that it was originally intended for an AC DC, but in practice, it works really well for a Paladin, or any class with a good amount of power for moving quickly and cheesing Recovery (although I recall Sorce was the one who first mentioned that one of his guildies used the Dragonheart for cheesing Divine Protector cooldowns).
I would overall reccomend a Red Dragon due to the fact that it has Power, but Blue and White are not bad.
I am currently using Heart of the Black Dragon, since I had it ever since Mod7-8.
However, I think Black Dragon is a bad choice for this build: due to the fact that you get loads of Recovery and AP Gain from this Dragonheart build, the stats provided from the Black Dragon (Recovery/ArmPen/AP Gain) are rendered obsolete.
also do i need 3 or just 1 hearts?