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Is there a good method to test damage from Split the Sky?

aslan3775aslan3775 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 295 Arc User
edited October 2016 in The Wilds
Archer tree in HR--I usually use Cordon and Longstriders--I love the buff, and with aimed shot, I can get my two favorites back pretty fast. But I am wondering if my third should really be Split the Sky? I tend to slot Rain of Arrows or Thorn Strike, but i started using StS with Dragon Herald Runs, Tiamat, and even HE's, (especially if it pops off into those Nalfeshnees--hit StS right before his big attack and he seems to melt quite a few bars). I can even see using it while clearing mobs around the wagons in WoD or Rhemoraz in Icewind Dale. Although that tends to be a bit of a waste.

But how do you test this? ??? Dummies don't proc StS, do they?

I know quite a few threads have talked about the long animation time for StS and even Rain of Arrows, so until recently I had given up on it. Now I just want to know if it works better than I thought and it would be worth it to slot it during special circumstances.

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  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    edited October 2016 Answer ✓
    Well they made a change to StS which now also does damage to a random mob inside the cloud periodically, whether or not he attacks. StS is golden on Dragonflight, Heralds or Tiamat, where their AoE hits a large group of players as every one of them hit will activate StS to deal damage to the mob. That's why you'll see the Nalfeshnee melt after using an AoE because lots of players are likely in the red taking damage. Best I can say is to do Heralds or Dragonflight and run ACT to see how much damage StS equates to in a fight.
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  • aslan3775aslan3775 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 295 Arc User
    I was thinking that might be the best method given the way it procs--just not necessarily easy to compare apples:apples if I switch out Rain of Arrows or Thorn Strike.

    With aimed shot reducing the cooldowns so nicely, it seems like you can have multiple clouds up at the same time. If not, it certainly is one after the other. And that is without the paragon feat (Still a waste of 5 points).
  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    Nope that was changed some time ago. The new cloud overides the previous one, just like Thorn Ward.
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    even if i slot always split the sky for the melee counterpart, the encounter itself is not worth using at all.
  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    rayrdan said:

    even if i slot always split the sky for the melee counterpart, the encounter itself is not worth using at all.

    I'm not so sure about that @rayrdan. It actually seems to do what the tooltip says now and on mobs like dragons and Tiamat it does a tonne of damage.
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    lirithiel said:

    rayrdan said:

    even if i slot always split the sky for the melee counterpart, the encounter itself is not worth using at all.

    I'm not so sure about that @rayrdan. It actually seems to do what the tooltip says now and on mobs like dragons and Tiamat it does a tonne of damage.
    sure ! tiamat and dragon flight event are an exception. definitely
  • roy#3016 roy Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    Was curious about this and similar skills (Thorn Ward), does using Longstrider before popping such a power affect the power for the whole time the power lasts - so, is StS used after Longstrider more powerful for its whole duration?
  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    roy#3016 said:

    Was curious about this and similar skills (Thorn Ward), does using Longstrider before popping such a power affect the power for the whole time the power lasts - so, is StS used after Longstrider more powerful for its whole duration?

    No, only for the 4 seconds after using Longstrider's.
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  • jonkocajonkoca Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,586 Arc User
    Split the sky is absolutely amazing on any big bosses that damage whole grps of players. For example, I used one sts on the end boss of the scarecrow HE in lonelywood (I was late to the party) and from that one encounter's damage, got a great success result.
    No idea what my toon is now.
  • aslan3775aslan3775 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 295 Arc User
    lirithiel said:

    roy#3016 said:

    Was curious about this and similar skills (Thorn Ward), does using Longstrider before popping such a power affect the power for the whole time the power lasts - so, is StS used after Longstrider more powerful for its whole duration?

    No, only for the 4 seconds after using Longstrider's.
    So--can you cast Split the sky then wait for the right moment and cast Longstrider's to get the bonus at that point during the STS 'DOT'?

    If this is the case, I should change my rotation to get STS up on the boss, then watch for the telegraph for damage, then hit Longstrider. Example would be Jonkoca's Scarecrow in Lonelywood and the Nalfeshnee in the demon HEs as well as Tiamat or the Dragon Heralds. They all have long telegraphs to time the Longstrider shot.

    What do you think?
  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    edited October 2016
    aslan3775 said:

    lirithiel said:

    roy#3016 said:

    Was curious about this and similar skills (Thorn Ward), does using Longstrider before popping such a power affect the power for the whole time the power lasts - so, is StS used after Longstrider more powerful for its whole duration?

    No, only for the 4 seconds after using Longstrider's.
    So--can you cast Split the sky then wait for the right moment and cast Longstrider's to get the bonus at that point during the STS 'DOT'?

    If this is the case, I should change my rotation to get STS up on the boss, then watch for the telegraph for damage, then hit Longstrider. Example would be Jonkoca's Scarecrow in Lonelywood and the Nalfeshnee in the demon HEs as well as Tiamat or the Dragon Heralds. They all have long telegraphs to time the Longstrider shot.

    What do you think?
    It's not that StS does a lot of damage with a single hit - more like it does plenty of damage when a whole lot of players get hit by an AoE ability. I wouldn't do what you suggested personally as I try to maximise my use of Longstrider's by firing it off as much as possible and as soon its it's off CD. Remember you're not just buffing your own damage but everyone else's as well.
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  • aslan3775aslan3775 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 295 Arc User
    Good point--by leaving Longstrider's in reserve, I won't use it as much, and all damage would go down. Mine and everyone that I would buff.

    Soooo--I just need to encourage all my mates to stand in the red zone and get hit more often when STS is up, right :p

    --that sounded funnier in my head than reading it in the post. must be a long day.
  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    No, I read the intended humor in that :D
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