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dread or vorp

jackharper#1224 jackharper
jackharper#1224
 Member Posts: 112 Arc User
in The Nine Hells
Hi
Soon i star play SW, in few guide i saw ppl use vorpal or dread. Which and why is better?

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  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    I'm using a vorpal with my HB. Hellish Rebuke is just too nice.

    If you're SB, dread would be way better because there's nothing good about using at-wills as SB. It's all about piling sparks up with crits and spamming scorch.
  • jackharper#1224 jackharper
    jackharper#1224
         Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    Maybe it's stupid question, but i dont play this char and dont know to much, but what is that SB?
  • urabaskurabask Member Posts: 2,923 Arc User
    jackharper#1224 said:

    Maybe it's stupid question, but i dont play this char and dont know to much, but what is that SB?

    Soulbinder. It's one of the paragon paths you choose at level 30.
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  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    If you're investing into your first weapon enchant, Vorpal is a safe move. It works for just about everything. Dread on the other hand isn't too great with at-will heavy classes and builds.

    Hellbringer overall is much more beginner friendly of a path for SWs.
  • jackharper#1224 jackharper
    jackharper#1224
         Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    Now i have vorp and i dont know change it or use.
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    My feeling tells me HB = vorp, SB = dread

    At least my pVorp deals less on Soulbinder than my pDread.
    About Hellbringer I am not sure, some deal pretty high numbers with encounter like KF/AoH.
    When I run HB I dealt most damage using buffed Hellish rebuke (offhand feat+feats).
    IN the end it may not be a big difference for a HB.
  • jackharper#1224 jackharper
    jackharper#1224
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    Which is more DPS SB or HB?
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  • jackharper#1224 jackharper
    jackharper#1224
         Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    So maybe someone can explain me what they are different between SB and HB?
  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    The difference in playstyle is huge and covers SW's core mechanics. It would be easier to read paths description or watch some videos than cover whole class here.
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

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  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    jackharper#1224 said:

    So maybe someone can explain me what they are different between SB and HB?

    SB is more single target oriented and good at melting down bosses. But it's sorta like the GWF in which is has to get it's DPS output rolling first. SB has soul sparks, but if your LS is already sky high, HB has the edge with survivability. Pillar of Power lets you hunker down in place and deal solid DPS right off the bat. Quite more effective against mobs.

    Not sure now. Soul Scorch has met it's match. Hellish rebuke isn't as strong, but with no pity no mercy it hits pretty hard for an at-will, it's good for Fury.

    I just don't enjoy the SB play style. HB is straight to the point, and pillar has a short CD so you can cast it again for every engagement, buff damage of your at-wills, AoEs, ect. SW doesn't have a huge arsenal of competent DPS powers to begin with so all the better to buff the 2 good ones you want to use. SB requires you to deal damage for a moment before you can actually start dealing your heavy damage. It feels more handicapped. Feel more gimped with at-wills, overall it feels more gimped in all regards aside from going Fury.
  • jackharper#1224 jackharper
    jackharper#1224
         Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Ok thx i try play HB

    Last questions. How about rotation? I see options in youtube but in game it's difficult? or you do it automaticly?
    (i dont ask only about change skill single target to multi)
  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    For HB is pretty simple. Keep Pillar of Power on all the time, spam Arms of Hadar whenever you can, cast Fiery Bolt/Killing Flames when cooldown is down.
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

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    [Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.

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    [Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
  • jackharper#1224 jackharper
    jackharper#1224
         Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    Ok after i play only gf this char i play 2 days. Thx all for yours help.
    Probably soon i will have new questions ;D
  • fernuufernuu Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    Sure! Have fun with SW and please visit Nine Hell more often! :D
    https://youtube.com/c/FernuStormborn

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  • jackharper#1224 jackharper
    jackharper#1224
         Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    Hello again.
    I said that I will have more questions and here it is. Which art set is better or maybe dont use one set (with bonus).
    Now probably the best options is orcus, but is very expensive. I saw eq other players and YT guide. PPL use black ice set or lostmauth. Which is better for HB? or as I said dont use set, but only different parts.
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    jackharper#1224 said:

    Hello again.
    I said that I will have more questions and here it is. Which art set is better or maybe dont use one set (with bonus).
    Now probably the best options is orcus, but is very expensive. I saw eq other players and YT guide. PPL use black ice set or lostmauth. Which is better for HB? or as I said dont use set, but only different parts.

    Proly fine just sticking with whichever you want + a greater sash of charisma. None of em really are performance heavy aside from orcus for endgame stuff.
  • jackharper#1224 jackharper
    jackharper#1224
         Member Posts: 112 Arc User
    So probably i will choose black ice or lostmouth horn + Greater Belt of Black Ice + Baphomet's Infernal Talisman
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