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havocbuddha#3895 havocbuddha Member Posts: 20 Arc User
edited September 2016 in The Citadel
Should I respect and regear more critical based. So I can semi dps. Running a 10% critical build atm slow to solo but can still make my way. Low IL atm early 2000s
Just with lack of owlbear cub debating changing it up.
Plan to be tank for my guild and general play.
Swap to more critical and respec or stay as I am.
P.s.what EE weapon . thinking drown unless fire really best pick. Sence mod 9 still

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  • cypheoncypheon Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    for ease of acquisition, water weapons... just zone in, join the crab hunt. fire is technically better but then you have to buy wands or grind for days, because no one ever runs the guaranteed mote HE in any other zone but water.

    also the self-healing from water is semi-helpful if you're still learning your way around as a tank, or soloer, as it can save you if you mis-time an ability. unfortunately it doesn't wait for you to take health damage to trigger... it starts as soon as anything hits you, whether it's to your health, temp hp's, or the myriad of shields. thus why it's only semi-helpful, heh.

    also, and i scoffed at this at first, until i tried it myself... armor pen for our dps first, then worry about crit. i've only just started switching gear for AP and just going from 12% to 23% has made a huge impact on my solo kill speeds in IWD. may even be able to kill a bear rider in less than 4 minutes if i get AP near max.

    can't really say anything about your build or if you should look at respeccing... you did not post your build for review :(
  • havocbuddha#3895 havocbuddha Member Posts: 20 Arc User
  • havocbuddha#3895 havocbuddha Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    And getting critical on gear
  • justawillyjustawilly Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 63 Arc User
    Speaking as PC user.
    I wouldn't go stack critical hit chance just to do more damage. remember your best abilities are tank & utility.
    This does not mean you should avoid critical hit chance completely. but dont use enchantments with critical hit chance.
    Here what i did to my op (on PC) even without owlbear I could do decent damage with Pure Plaguefire enchantment. This way i didnt need to stack a lot of armor penetration very high.
    Here's what i did to my feats (HUMAN): https://nwcalc.com/index.html#/op?b=1oa5:k6rwk5:8dep:5tb7d,1uil0b3:1uu55u1:1000000:1u0z000&h=1&p=oop&o=0
    Our best buff at the moment is aura gifts which mean you need high amount of power. You really cant afford to go critical hit.
    I did focus on charisma/constitution.

    You can check video here:
    arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1221665/so-can-you-become-a-decent-dps-aura-gift-buff-op-tank-without-owlbear-video


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  • justawillyjustawilly Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Whats the point of using plaguefire if you already go for 60%/70% amror pen? No go with what you have in armor.... focus on power/recovery in enchantments/runestones. You'll be much more usefull that way for the party (assuming you have aura gifts feat)
    All that bonus you can do during a fight is just nice to have but NOT a must. If you focus too much on dps you will be less attractive to parties because of the lower power buff they get.
  • hrunting1#2425 hrunting1 Member Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    All the guys above have good points. I would agree with getting that resistance ignored as close to 60% as possible. Other wise you will be just running around beating mobs with a wet spaghetti noodle. (for me that's a no go). Like Justawilly said about the power/recovery working with aura of gifts works real well in group content for the buffs. I would invest in power/recovery to aid both you and the group as a whole, but don't go to crazy. If you want DPS out of a pally, invest in arp pen/ power/ and alittle recovery. Your crit chance can be decent with just gear and artifacts.

    Before people jump all over this, I know high recovery you can spam your encounter almost indefinitely. What's the use when you hit like a plush doll. Yes you can survive almost anything but again a plush doll.

    I myself have a decent build for a prot pally. I will admit I'm not the best but I rarely die and normally come in second or third in damage delt( depends on the group make up). This is in a group of similarly gear people.

    By no means am I BiS. I'm only 2865ilvl and still growing.


    In the end hoss its up to you how you build your toon, and how you play. I play reckless and love it. Maybe that's not you, you build and play how you deem fit.
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  • justawillyjustawilly Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 63 Arc User
    now here's something to think about...if you got a DC in your party one regular divine glow will reduce mobs DR with 10% 3x p.plague is 45% defence debuff. you really dont need to get real close to 60% DR
  • zephyriahzephyriah Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,980 Arc User
    edited September 2016

    now here's something to think about...if you got a DC in your party one regular divine glow will reduce mobs DR with 10% 3x p.plague is 45% defence debuff. you really dont need to get real close to 60% DR

    That is really bad advice and that's not how it works. Another player with a good debuff will not make up for your own inability to do damage.

    Plague Fire and other debuffs actually increase the damage taken by the mob from all sources as its way to reduce it's defense. So a dumbed down example to illustrate, if you have 10% RI and the mob you are fighting 50% Resistance are doing only 1000 damage, You will do 600 damage (40 % loss from RI) and plaguefire will boost it to 870. Where if you had 50% RI you would do the full 1000 damage and boosted to 1450 with PF. 66% higher.

    Edit to add it is a moot point anyway as PS4 in addition to the owlbear cub does not have Plaguefire or Dread.
  • iambryan014#4373 iambryan014 Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    For ps4 players, do we have plaguefire already cos i cant seem to find one. What would your thoughts be for using a trans feytouched instead?
  • zephyriahzephyriah Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,980 Arc User

    For ps4 players, do we have plaguefire already cos i cant seem to find one. What would your thoughts be for using a trans feytouched instead?

    Yeah, as I said above, PS4 doesn't have it or dread, the two top choices for Buff/Debuff clerics. Without a good enchant for party damage buffing, it really comes down to personal choice for personal damage buff.
  • supadave843#0812 supadave843 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
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    Don't aim to build for crit, just don't shy away from it.

    Going fire/twisted weapons are your best bet. A couple days or 5 hours of farming with a decent group and 2 wands. Water weapons aren't good for a paladin imho, if you need the heal you're doing something wrong.

    All my armor pen comes from mount insignias and some of my artifacts.

    Get a dread warrior as it really helps with maintaining threat, also work on getting a lightning enchantment and a negation.

    Soloing I run templars, burning, sacred/smite/relentless/circle of power, I run courage and solitude with an augment.

    Grouping is templars, binding, burning/bane (for bosses) courage and wisdom, I also run a bonding companion with 2 protecters com and 1 protecters friend, with all my procs I'm sitting at 30-40k power and 20k defense.

    Both my augment and bonding have power/crit equips.

    Some of my powers and paragon feat choices are geared for pvp, can take points out of vengeance and cleansing to put other places, circle of power only needs 1 point. The 1st tier in light and justice can easily be swapped.

    On my phone sorry structure is off
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