Im pretty sure that in pvp there aren't only premades running , there are a bunch of instances of ppl that are solo quing...
Especially meetin marnival in pvp is always a pleasure , he will make sure to send u a pm tellin u all the nicest things he can think of.
You are probably right.... there ARE some non-BIS, non-endgame, non-premade teams running PvP... I always get queue'd onto their teams. & we always seem to be facing off against teams that ARE BIS, end-game, &pre-made. After wasting an hour queueing 3 - 4 times for very little, or no rewards... it's enuff to put you off of PvP for a few days.
i finally share the same opinion of someone here... there are players that dont want pvp to be remotely fair. we seek for a premades...ahahaha sure thats why you are against an additional q as solo players right?
A Soloqueue and one queue for private, no rewards for sure to prevent abusing. PS : and please build a separate queue for DC and OP´s , so they can troll themselves all day and the rest can have compettion again without those boring combos
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vinceent1Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,264Arc User
edited September 2016
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friday, saturday, sunday, monday - pvping on 2 toons. overal - complete waste of time. premade after premade against me - all the time
i played like 40 matches and win only like 7 of them. gauntlgrym dont pop anymore.
after i get prestige gear i say gtfo again. if players are not reasonable, then cryptic must act - its easy. give us solo que finally. everybody for himself, no more easy mods for premades, no more playground for trollmades. at the end, they will even say thank you
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drkbodhiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,378Arc User
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I actually find it amusing that one specific guild has it out for me... and I do not care. They will follow me off the node and kill me instead of capping. I have used this when I was with a good team, to kick the HAMSTER out of them... they just love me. We all know who this Trollmade guild is... and it is similar to Terms of Service. I even go to the point of telling my teammates to go anywhere I am not... and get what points they can get because they WILL NOT ACCEPT A call for GG. Especially if I am on the team. It is so bad that sometimes I will just leave the instance and hang out in PE. I also tell my team that they should not even leave the spawn. Reason being... they will learn that you have to earn points to get AD and Glory... granted they are not looking for either.
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drkbodhiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,378Arc User
edited September 2016
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Here is the argument that I would like to squash.
Premades do not enter into the queue to fight premades. If they were really looking to fight another premade they would set up something with another PvP guild... which I know happens. There are some guilds that just like to abuse others and make them say Uncle, or GG. Others just want to feel strong and in control of things because they are not so much IRL.
Synergy is full of very talented members and many of them refuse to enter the queue with more than one other player. Granted there are some members who are a little over-zealous, but once they realize what is up they are cool and apologetic. There are certain guilds whose members YOU WILL NEVER see entering the queue, alone... wonder why that is.
Many of the BiS PvP guild members enter into matches and see enemies and nothing else. They do not see names unless... that opponent says something to them. In the last week I have been in over 60 matches... most of which I ended up losing because of trolling pvp guild premades. If it isn't X guild it is Y guild; if it isn't either of them it is another guild... all looking to troll the pugs.
I would say that a good 75% to 80% of the people entering the queue... are doing so SOLO. Many of these entrants are of lower iL and experience levels. They will tend to follow their BiS teammate around like a puppy... looking for scraps. I will tell you one thing... Most BiS PvPers really do not need to enter a match in a premade... their presence on most teams will be enough to create a win, regardless.
Atwil "At" - Tiefling TR / Saardush - Black Dragonborn GWF / White - Tiefling OP
Leadership Council of Civil Anarchy
SYNERGY Alliance
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vinceent1Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,264Arc User
edited September 2016
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i am always smiling, when premades complain that the other team gave up too early and saying they can try x and x to win a match.
i just wish everybody see early to what guilds their enemies belong and when pugs should see full premade on the other side, they dont even leave the spawn. That premade dont deserve any interaction, any kills, just waiting 10 minutes there and maybe they finally get some enlightenment.
i hope last days of "premades everywhere" were because long weekend at US and similar things in other countries (school start) and its not a bew trend. i would like to get my prestige set too
dont know drkbodhi what you do to them, but i see you chased too with supernatural passion. it just remind me when Lancer chasing me and essence members call me "forum troll"
imagine, no more premades are allowed to que for pvp at neverwinter. almost all of us suddenly has amazing pvp game. sometimes your teammates will screw it up and make you angry but almost all matches will be dramatic again
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drkbodhiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,378Arc User
edited September 2016
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I call them on their HAMSTER... and do it all in /say. They come at me HARD... and I laugh at them because they fight over who kills me. I only allow them one kill...
I have been kicked for not fighting a lost cause...
Atwil "At" - Tiefling TR / Saardush - Black Dragonborn GWF / White - Tiefling OP
A Soloqueue and one queue for private, no rewards for sure to prevent abusing. PS : and please build a separate queue for DC and OP´s , so they can troll themselves all day and the rest can have compettion again without those boring combos
Wait a minute.... DC's & OP's need boons & gearz too!!! Do you have any idea how long an all DC & OP Domination match would last?!?
A Soloqueue and one queue for private, no rewards for sure to prevent abusing. PS : and please build a separate queue for DC and OP´s , so they can troll themselves all day and the rest can have compettion again without those boring combos
Wait a minute.... DC's & OP's need boons & gearz too!!! Do you have any idea how long an all DC & OP Domination match would last?!?
It´s only my personal observation, that a geared DC or OP (unkillable vs 5 geared player) is a guarantee to disbalance most games. Atm I can 1 vs 1 another player and I may have the chance to beat him, 150%RI but vs 4k tenacity everything gets slowed down, the moment a DC or OP hops on the node all effort are wasted and I can play the "capping-game". All in all nothing changed except, Hunter can kill stuff easily without stunning them till nirvana, 80% damage by piercing blades
I am from Synergy and against a solo queue because I don't want to play with clueless scrubs in my team who fight 4v1 on a blue node against a target they obviously cannot kill. I don't want to be forced to play with PvE guys, that's why I am in a PvP guild to play PvP TOGETHER with PvP player.
And a lobbybsystem que in which players can organize matches by themselves such as 2k vs 2k itl or 4k vs 4k itl .
Just givin only what this thread has been askin is destroyin pvp.
Even in pve you are allowed to go anywherr as a premade, imagine if you wouldnt be able to do that ?
So why the hell you vote no ? Adding solo queue will clear the premade queue so you can easily queue against a group or sync queue. And you wont meet those pesky PvE players not with you, and not against you.
The OP Clearly wrote "ADDITIONAL OPTION", as in -> no one takes the premade queue away.
@ Devs - when will you guys bring the solo q system back ? was really great to have this as "an option" when to lazy to try get full team together , which is the only way these days with so many premades around ..
There should be a lobby queue system option for PM vs PM
******* Please bring tthe solo q option back asap and apply any changes to improve matchmaking system with weekly maintenance (patches) ?
Implement both solo+premade, so everyone get´s what he deserves. But I am sure those ppl who voted no will be 90% active in the solo queue to get their kills, hypocracy at it´s finest.
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feanor70118Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,170Arc User
edited September 2016
Solo PVP Queue System
So I notice the one person who actually opposes a solo queue system found a way to vote 27 times since yesterday...
Joking aside, there really only seem to be about 6 legit accounts on the 'no' side. And while some of them have posted worthwhile suggestions here, as I see it there's too little interest in pvp - largely due to PUG stomping by premades and pvp guilds - for there to be much of a gear tier system without massive wait times. I am not the first nor the tenth person to point that out lo these many years.
So at present, the only real result of not implementing a solo queue is continued unfairness and continued stomping by pvp guilds. There is no respectable argument in favor of that.
What is funnier is that all those who voted no did nothing but use the solo q during the event.
What's funny is that everyone who PVPs, and those who wanted to dabble in it used the new Solo Q option to check it out. No, wait, that's not funny, it's common sense. New material/game mode = curiosity. Now I know this equation may be difficult but if you really concentrate on it you will see the wisdom.
Seriously guys, did anyone expect that noone who PVP's primarily was going to show up on the solo Q? That's really just plain silly. What I did see, that was really comical, was a certain few people who REALLY pushed for this solo Q talking about fairness and equality running around in Solo Q with their BIS troll toon wearing ambush ring and drains wrecking pugs gleefully.
These are the people who are "advocating" for your Solo Q. The ones who want to troll without retribution from a couple of BIS players who would give them a run for their money.
Overall, I thought the Solo Q offered an RNG chance of getting the better team. Sometimes you got all green geared PVE pugs with one artifact and no weapon enchants. Sometimes your team was a full 4K team of OP toons. The issue remains the same, the matchmaking system is literally the worst I've ever seen. However, at least in Solo Q it's just a roll of the dice as to whether your team is OP or complete incompetence.
On ambush rings: "How would you like PVE if all the mobs were invisible?"
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Closing this up now as it's getting into flaming territory.
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we seek for a premades...ahahaha sure thats why you are against an additional q as solo players right?
PS : and please build a separate queue for DC and OP´s , so they can troll themselves all day and the rest can have compettion again without those boring combos
i played like 40 matches and win only like 7 of them. gauntlgrym dont pop anymore.
after i get prestige gear i say gtfo again. if players are not reasonable, then cryptic must act - its easy. give us solo que finally. everybody for himself, no more easy mods for premades, no more playground for trollmades. at the end, they will even say thank you
I even go to the point of telling my teammates to go anywhere I am not... and get what points they can get because they WILL NOT ACCEPT A call for GG. Especially if I am on the team. It is so bad that sometimes I will just leave the instance and hang out in PE. I also tell my team that they should not even leave the spawn. Reason being... they will learn that you have to earn points to get AD and Glory... granted they are not looking for either.
Premades do not enter into the queue to fight premades. If they were really looking to fight another premade they would set up something with another PvP guild... which I know happens. There are some guilds that just like to abuse others and make them say Uncle, or GG. Others just want to feel strong and in control of things because they are not so much IRL.
Synergy is full of very talented members and many of them refuse to enter the queue with more than one other player. Granted there are some members who are a little over-zealous, but once they realize what is up they are cool and apologetic. There are certain guilds whose members YOU WILL NEVER see entering the queue, alone... wonder why that is.
Many of the BiS PvP guild members enter into matches and see enemies and nothing else. They do not see names unless... that opponent says something to them. In the last week I have been in over 60 matches... most of which I ended up losing because of trolling pvp guild premades. If it isn't X guild it is Y guild; if it isn't either of them it is another guild... all looking to troll the pugs.
I would say that a good 75% to 80% of the people entering the queue... are doing so SOLO. Many of these entrants are of lower iL and experience levels. They will tend to follow their BiS teammate around like a puppy... looking for scraps. I will tell you one thing... Most BiS PvPers really do not need to enter a match in a premade... their presence on most teams will be enough to create a win, regardless.
i just wish everybody see early to what guilds their enemies belong and when pugs should see full premade on the other side, they dont even leave the spawn. That premade dont deserve any interaction, any kills, just waiting 10 minutes there and maybe they finally get some enlightenment.
i hope last days of "premades everywhere" were because long weekend at US and similar things in other countries (school start) and its not a bew trend. i would like to get my prestige set too
dont know drkbodhi what you do to them, but i see you chased too with supernatural passion. it just remind me when Lancer chasing me and essence members call me "forum troll"
imagine, no more premades are allowed to que for pvp at neverwinter. almost all of us suddenly has amazing pvp game. sometimes your teammates will screw it up and make you angry but almost all matches will be dramatic again
I have been kicked for not fighting a lost cause...
Atm I can 1 vs 1 another player and I may have the chance to beat him, 150%RI but vs 4k tenacity everything gets slowed down, the moment a DC or OP hops on the node all effort are wasted and I can play the "capping-game".
All in all nothing changed except, Hunter can kill stuff easily without stunning them till nirvana, 80% damage by piercing blades
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/10142243
Adding solo queue will clear the premade queue so you can easily queue against a group or sync queue. And you wont meet those pesky PvE players not with you, and not against you.
The OP Clearly wrote "ADDITIONAL OPTION", as in -> no one takes the premade queue away.
There should be a lobby queue system option for PM vs PM
******* Please bring tthe solo q option back asap and apply any changes to improve matchmaking system with weekly maintenance (patches) ?
Joking aside, there really only seem to be about 6 legit accounts on the 'no' side. And while some of them have posted worthwhile suggestions here, as I see it there's too little interest in pvp - largely due to PUG stomping by premades and pvp guilds - for there to be much of a gear tier system without massive wait times. I am not the first nor the tenth person to point that out lo these many years.
So at present, the only real result of not implementing a solo queue is continued unfairness and continued stomping by pvp guilds. There is no respectable argument in favor of that.
Seriously guys, did anyone expect that noone who PVP's primarily was going to show up on the solo Q? That's really just plain silly. What I did see, that was really comical, was a certain few people who REALLY pushed for this solo Q talking about fairness and equality running around in Solo Q with their BIS troll toon wearing ambush ring and drains wrecking pugs gleefully.
These are the people who are "advocating" for your Solo Q. The ones who want to troll without retribution from a couple of BIS players who would give them a run for their money.
Overall, I thought the Solo Q offered an RNG chance of getting the better team. Sometimes you got all green geared PVE pugs with one artifact and no weapon enchants. Sometimes your team was a full 4K team of OP toons. The issue remains the same, the matchmaking system is literally the worst I've ever seen. However, at least in Solo Q it's just a roll of the dice as to whether your team is OP or complete incompetence.
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