Was this just to revamp "change" some core things and then buff/change unnecessary things? I feel like they could of changed feats and added a lot more to certain paths instead of "now has an increased range of '1" Seriously will we see some feat changes for these classes, because I have wanted to create an Archery HR thinking that would the way to DPS as an HR. I spoke to SW's and a lot of them are upset with the changes. IMO they just corrected what was broken. What do you guys think? You think they could of changed a lot of the BIGGER issues with these? You guys think they will at a later date?
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Go get some first hand experience with the changes, then come back with an informed opinion.
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It would be wise of you not to assume things like that next time.
Also wanted to mention, this thread was so I can see how people feel on the changes (assuming the people did do some research and testing with their class) I want to know their opinions, not here to flame or start an argument.
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I hope they also touch other class soon like TR and CW. CW is too tanky with a shield and make them more tankier from self healing and lifesteal, while TR can 1shot you full health.
im not sure if i will still make my gf main or switch to other class, but this changes to GF is too much.
They didn't work on the Tactician Tree, Protector Tree, and they did't even work on the Conquerer tree to make things viable with the nerf to Fray. Especially Tactician Tree. They minorly changed powers and skills to make it seem like they did something, but the big changes were Villains Menace, ITF, and Anvil of Doom. 2 of which didn't even work 60% of the time.
Just like haste on the cleric, they went overkill. They didn't need to do the things they did, and I would be very happy if they focused on buffing the feats and adding a lot more things now after this nerf to the GF, instead of focusing on listening to a kids crying nerfs all day, because currently, we are nothing more than a handicap little brother to the OP, and thats not good when we are supposed to be the main tanking class. So hopefully they listen to us and buff some feats and more powers and add additional benefits to feats.
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GF: I don't play one, but talking to several guildies it seems everybody is gonna spec protector if things stay like on preview now, possibly with some dips into other trees. Tactician is pretty much dead according to what I heard.
HR: Trapper is still the best one by far and still way behind a GWF. Lots to do there.
Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
And yeah your right, it won't be replaced in any dungeon runs, because the GF will be obsolete compared to the OP in terms of tanking. Once paladins threat issue is addressed and fixed, we will be the handicap little brother to the OP as of MOD 10.
Some of the things you say seem you have no knowledge of considering I don't even think you play the GF.
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I cannot wait for other classes to get changes.
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a striker class without finisher
GF´s finisher? KC + ITF + crescendo + Bullcharge/anvil/griffins wrath..you may even take at will´s dealing 50k plus against some classes
a tank with "a lot" of finisher
And yes I agree, say that on the SW thread. Though, don't think SW's are at an under advantage. Especially with the next mod.
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The fact that anvil is the most common encounter to deal big numbers and the fact that it´s designed for finishing doesn´t tell anything about the option you got in PVP to kill or "finish" another class.
I saw a GF onecycling an geared OP with KC+griffin wrath, you even can take staggering challenge to buff those two powers.
I saw tons of player being killed by ITF->Crescendo->Bullcharge
Even in mod 8 you could experience GF´s using at will dealing 50k+damage on an opponent.
Riu posted lot´s of testings, actually facing Icy on Preview, who is running a 4k+ BIS GWF and is top performing in PVP.
If he writes about the "cycle of death" from GF still working in mod 10, stomping a BIS GWF in seconds I would trust his words.
Wheel+Villain´s Menace+Knight challenge+ITF will stay a deadly combination of buffs.
Since you do no PVP it´s hard to argue about a Class referring to PVE (you) and PVP (me)
PS: Testes with GWF on 203k HP 8.8k defense 3.75k tenacity and also tested with 165k HP with 16.5k defense and 3.75k tenacity. Both setup gets murdered by either one dailied or one bull charged+daily :O
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EDIT: Everyone wants it nerfed, but if it gets nerfed every GF will laugh at that for the fact its such a joke of an encounter. Of course it can help a lot hence what it did to a GWF, but by no means do I expect to ever slot that joke of a move. That also won't stop the real GF's who know what they are doing. Neither will this Nerf.
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