So my previous threads about AtoS, Careful Attack, Hindering Strike and Roots doing 0 Damage...

wdj40

Thought I'd bring this up as some of you probably wont have a clue about it. I have mentioned in the past that the Off-Hand Weapon adds 0 to Thorned Root damage.

I have also mentioned that Hindering Strike, a Melee Strong Root Encounter, applies Thorned Roots but actually uses the Main Hand Weapon damage to apply it.

Also it is known that Careful Attack proc's give you a stack of Ranged Aspect of the Serpent.

Now something I have been testing recently and probably why I can put out so much damage in my rotations, my specific Encounter line up 98% of the time is Longstriders > Constricting > Hindering. Then add Careful attack to this for more Ranged AtoS stacks.

Here is the part worth thinking about, Hindering Strike applies Thorned Roots from Ranged instead of melee. Testing this a lot has shown me that it actually applies some Thorned Root damage from the Ranged stacks of AtoS without using a stack of Ranged (because you are using a melee power).

So with 2 or 1 stack of Ranged AtoS the melee power Hindering Strike actually becomes less powerful on the initial hit but then the roots are more powerful due to the Ranged AtoS stacks. Whilst with 2 or 1 stack of Melee AtoS the initial hit of Hindering Strike is more powerful BUT the Thorned Root tick damage is far less powerful, as AtoS is not effecting it at all.

Thus Careful attack with the above rotation is extremely effective with other players around and Careful Attack proccing Ranged AtoS.

Please discuss and let me know if I have anything wrong any where, I don't have access to ACT or any other testing means except playing and eye sight.

I have probably just caused some sort of Nerf to my Build because of this lol.

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wdj40

Yeah I want to see Natures Enhancement Feat fixed so it actually works.

Also Aspect of the Pack Rank 4 fixed as it does not work.

Off-Hand Weapon Damage should be fixed to actually do something, also powers should use Off-Hand Weapon Damage in their calculations.

I could list 100 things but that has been done before

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davidagaldo

Would be awesome of all the things not working would start working, then nerf... sorry, used a four letter word.

rhadamathys

Anyone else notice we got buffed, not nerfed? Wow, I'm speechless if this stands... http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/neverwinter/#/discussion/1218295/unofficial-interim-patchnotes

Good to see archery is now viable...
Aimed shot/gushing wound just got way better...

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dmcewen

I'm shocked as well, it sucks steel breeze has charges now but like you said @rhadamathys gushing wounds is going to be ridiculous.

davidagaldo

Not just Archery, Stormwarden just got a big boost from this. This is HUGE: "- Aimed shot is no longer interrupted when you take damage"

rhadamathys

Yea, careful attack, aimed strike, and gushing have always bordered on being broken, plus with all the dot we do... I mean, how do u not run that combo now...before I was reluctant to run those because aimed shot sucked...but now they are just asking us to run it...

davidagaldo

I have stacked unused power points, in the past two weeks, I have received four. The EXP boon is awesome. I have played enough to roll my EXP twice a day on weekends and then every other day during the week. I may respec to give SW a try and allocate points to powers I deemed sub-standard.

Side note, I am trying to step through a video frame by frame with XBoxDVR and it over shoots the frame I want. It appears to be a billion+ crit on Lostmauth.

rhadamathys

I don't see how charges hurts Steele breeze...the 80% boost is nice...

wdj40

Yeah interesting changes... nothing has been actually announced though so anything can change between now and then

dmcewen

Having another encounters with charges hurts, I already run hindering and cordon.

lanevosquad

this is good news for us Stormwardens. Just sucks I respec'd this past weekend and took Aimed shot off. Guess I'll have to respec again.

Aimed shot + Marauder's Escape are perfect together. Bout time they did something about that.

wdj40

P.s.

I have no idea why I kept calling it AtoS multiple times above... I meant AotS lol

alliera7311

Please fix our buggy Passives. Aspect of the Serpent gives 2% crit per stack for a total of 4%. Suppose to be 2.5% crit per stack for a total of 5%. Also the max dmg it is giving is 31% not 34%. Lastly Blade Storm doesn't with proc with Plant Growth. HR Dragonborns encounter powers cool downs dont function properly with the Trapper at times. Absolutely nobody is getting Action Point Gain stats added into there "Offensive and Healing" from insignias, jewel kits, and all artifacts.

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davidagaldo

alliera7311 said:

Absolutely nobody is getting Action Point Gain stats added into there "Offensive and Healing" from insignias, jewel kits, and all artifacts.

Are you saying it does not appear on your stat sheet? I am not experiencing that. It replenishes extremely fast. I have one Art with APG and the rest is insignias (purps) and two jewel kits for a total 1200.

kitaar

Alliera is 100% right on the action point gain If your swapping something with recovery then it effects your AP stat.. look at your cumulative stats. To the OP Sume I believe has shown these root devices in a lot of his videos, if not I can't remember why I have seen these tests some where.. thanks for your hard work.

wdj40

kitaar said:

Alliera is 100% right on the action point gain If your swapping something with recovery then it effects your AP stat.. look at your cumulative stats. To the OP Sume I believe has shown these root devices in a lot of his videos, if not I can't remember why I have seen these tests some where.. thanks for your hard work.

Actually Sume's Video talks about Plant Growth mechanics more than others... PG is not actually a Strong or Weak Root power any way and is not effected by Thorned Roots or anything like that

I do not believe anyone has actually tested and pointed out that MELEE Hindering Strike applies Thorned Roots but uses the Ranged damage calculations instead. Also any Thorned Roots on the melee side do not use the Off-Hand Weapon damage in their calculations.

I have pointed out in the past problems with Thorned Roots and other things

davidagaldo

kitaar said:

Alliera is 100% right on the action point gain If your swapping something with recovery then it effects your AP stat..

I do recall that number is low.

kitaar

If you unequip something with a action point gain stat on it, look in your offense and healing cumulative stats, your actual AP gain stat changes but makes no difference where it counts.