Lantern or Wheel, other...

davidagaldo

All comments are appreciated.

I will preface this by mentioning I had changed many things about my build from a spunky and dominate Drow to what seems clunky UAF Dragonborn. Many other things were refined and its seems I lost something here and there along the way.

So about the arties in the subject, I am comfy with the Lantern, I relish the boost when popping it and others do for sure. I took a Wheel to mithic last night ( got a couple from lock boxes and had same arti-type in bank) with ease and gave it a go. Ignoring all else, I feel the Lantern does more. Anyone else feel the same way?

This weekend I will toggle between the two. I did not toggle last night because I was taking the Wheel for a spin, made a couple mithics last night and wanted to show them off. The other mithic is the Rod which completes my Imperial suite.

Anyone else feel indifferent about the Wheel?

soonergm

i am currently a clunky dragonborn as well, maybe it just looks clunky, but it it sure feels like it is too. i bought a race change token last night and i plan to go back to wood elf.

i am also using a mythic lantern right now. i have a wheel in my inventory but i have not decided to pull the trigger on taking it to mythic. for one, i am using the skirmisher's gambit right now, and i need the extra crit still. two, is 30% for myself better than 15% for the party, which typically includes a GWF that smokes my dps? not sure, but at the moment i'm sticking with the lantern and would like to hear more opinions as well.

davidagaldo

Was a good run the other night @soonergm I did not notice you till the very end at the chest. I was half in and the other half reading developments on my laptop.

wdj40

Not sure why you think the Wheel is not so good... The Fire Part gives you 30 seconds of 30% extra fire damage, if an Ally runs into the Fire part they apply Fire damage but you get the Credit for the damage.

Also it has 30 seconds of healing if you run through the Water Part which is pretty huge. Wind and Earth can also help in some cases. Also when fighting bosses or whatever I try to plop the Wheel down on someone who really needs it... Like on Orcus I`ll run to the Tank and plop Water on him (or possibly Earth).

With the Wheel at Mythic it is only a 60 second cooldown... that means Water and Fire last for half the time of the Cool down which is also huge.

ardiaz3

> @davidagaldo said:
> All comments are appreciated.
>
> I will preface this by mentioning I had changed many things about my build from a spunky and dominate Drow to what seems clunky UAF Dragonborn. Many other things were refined and its seems I lost something here and there along the way.
>
> So about the arties in the subject, I am comfy with the Lantern, I relish the boost when popping it and others do for sure. I took a Wheel to mithic last night ( got a couple from lock boxes and had same arti-type in bank) with ease and gave it a go. Ignoring all else, I feel the Lantern does more. Anyone else feel the same way?
>
> This weekend I will toggle between the two. I did not toggle last night because I was taking the Wheel for a spin, made a couple mithics last night and wanted to show them off. The other mithic is the Rod which completes my Imperial suite.
>
> Anyone else feel indifferent about the Wheel?

how do i start a thread?

asjohnson

ardiaz3 said:

> @davidagaldo said:

> All comments are appreciated.

>

> I will preface this by mentioning I had changed many things about my build from a spunky and dominate Drow to what seems clunky UAF Dragonborn. Many other things were refined and its seems I lost something here and there along the way.

>

> So about the arties in the subject, I am comfy with the Lantern, I relish the boost when popping it and others do for sure. I took a Wheel to mithic last night ( got a couple from lock boxes and had same arti-type in bank) with ease and gave it a go. Ignoring all else, I feel the Lantern does more. Anyone else feel the same way?

>

> This weekend I will toggle between the two. I did not toggle last night because I was taking the Wheel for a spin, made a couple mithics last night and wanted to show them off. The other mithic is the Rod which completes my Imperial suite.

>

> Anyone else feel indifferent about the Wheel?



how do i start a thread?

based on how the forum posted your quote of this person, and the fact that it was your 1st post....you can not make a thread until you have commented a bit more. I think its like 10 comments till you can make a thread, might be more but I never paid attention.

davidagaldo

I toggled Wheel and Lantern last night and out dps'd myself using Lantern. Just saying...

wdj40

Have a look at the screenshot I just posted in the other thread at the top of this forum. It has a Fire Aspect of my Wheel hitting for 225k lol Remember that is 1 hit out of 30 seconds worth of hits... Fire lasts 30 Seconds so is by far the best Artefact I think we have.

That is just 1 small snapshot of the battle... there were many many more hits of similar numbers that I did not take screenshots of

rhadamathys

Yea, wheel procs for over 2M for me in the right group...it scales really well with buffs etc...if you are going pure dps, and remember to use it, it's much better than lantern... That being said, lantern can be better if u are playing support roll, or aren't used to using wheel efficiently (I had issues early on remembering to use it)

davidagaldo

I ran with a group with no one 2300iL or higher, no DC or GF, did not run my companion, and my DPS was higher with the Lantern. I did not use potions, only the coin. This was all back to back runs on eLoL. I finished the first run with 35mill and the lantern run with 39 mill.

I feel I execute each arty the best way possible. Is the LM set fixed? Is that the difference, the LM set which I don't use?

I am not using my Imperial set, I mixed it up with a Dexterity belt so my stats are 30,26,15.

davidagaldo

Edit: I think I figured out why... hahaha.

thefiresidecat

I've used both and Like both. I got rid of my wheel because the stats weren't so good for me a couple months back. I"ve been thinking of refining another just to have it on hand if I want to use it. my stats are at a place where it won't matter precisely what I have in that slot. as far as clunky dragon born.. YES YES.. but I've got the mount boost to run speed and stamina now and a couple of stamina boons and it doesnt feel clunky at all any more. the mount boost thing was HUGE.. I recommend putting a slot towards it before getting rid of it.

rhadamathys

He's talking about active slot, not stats...he's wanting to know which is better to use in battle...

davidagaldo

wdj40 said:

Have a look at the screenshot I just posted in the other thread at the top of this forum. It has a Fire Aspect of my Wheel hitting for 225k lol Remember that is 1 hit out of 30 seconds worth of hits... Fire lasts 30 Seconds so is by far the best Artefact I think we have.

That is just 1 small snapshot of the battle... there were many many more hits of similar numbers that I did not take screenshots of

hahaha, I can get my at-wills to hit that hard (ramp up) on a regular basis. I showed everyone a sreenshot of an at-mill (at-will) hitting for just over 1 mill, done it 7 times with Orcus, but generally mid 900ks. I am sure its a bug too.

dmcewen

Wheel for dps builds, latern for support.