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Lurkers Assault

hammbo1969hammbo1969 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 165 Arc User
in The Thieves' Den
Ok, I'm a vet rogue, but I have to admit I'm not entirely sure how to use LA. I've only ever used WoB and SE as my dailies in PvE, but I've tried using LA in both test and live environments with different results.

I've popped LA off the back of a late DF stealth DS to try to get the crit bleeds, but when I click LA I don't know whether to pop stealth again or just DF for my life? I've had mixed results where I've seen 500K, 600K hits going in, but still no idea how I did them.

I'm embarassed to have to ask here. I'm a 3.8k TR, and I always thought I knew what to do with my class but I'll be honest, I'm a tad stumped.

Please help.

Thanks
Hammbo

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  • blur#5900 blur
    blur#5900
         Member Posts: 490 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    Try this on bosses:
    Stealth>Dazing>Lurkers>Stealth>Lashing>DuelistsFlurry> activate stealth just before DF ends and hit another Dazing.
    U can also use DF before all that if u have time but usually there is no time.
    Edit: Thats a rotation if you are Executioner, its not that effective if you dont have shadow of demise.
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  • aaramis75aaramis75 Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    Lurker's at rank4 is a base +30% damage boost + rapidly-refilling stealth bar. On it's own, it's nice, but not stellar.

    When combined with the synergies of other abilities, such as MI's Invisible Infiltrator, and Back Alley Tactics (BAT) from the Scoundrel tree, it becomes *very* good.
    If Deathknell and Last Moments are also applicable, damage goes into "zomg" levels.

    The key is to capitalize on all of the above and, as Russell Crowe once so eloquently put it, to "unleash hell".
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  • strandedaussiestrandedaussie Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 14 Arc User
    blur#5900 said:

    Try this on bosses:
    Stealth>Dazing>Lurkers>Stealth>Lashing>DuelistsFlurry> activate stealth just before DF ends and hit another Dazing.
    U can also use DF before all that if u have time but usually there is no time.
    Edit: Thats a rotation if you are Executioner, its not that effective if you dont have shadow of demise.

    This is exactly my rotation, except I replace DS with WR (for the debuff), and my boss damage is generally excellent.

  • aaramis75aaramis75 Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited June 2016
    strandedaussie said:

    This is exactly my rotation, except I replace DS with WR (for the debuff), and my boss damage is generally excellent.

    Yep, for bosses definitely use Wicked Reminder. It's fantastic, and buffs not only your damage, but the entire team's. Stealthed WR = insta-3 stacks of -7% DR per stack, so you will be doing noticeably more damage after that. Combined with other buffs like Longstrider's, ITF, Wheel Fire buff, etc., things can add up quickly.

    Best general boss rotation for Exe I've found is DF -> stealth before the end for crit bleed + stealth WR (starts SoD) -> Lurker's -> DF -> again, stealth before the end for crit bleed -> stealthed Lashing. Not much time left after that, but throw in another DF if you can or a WR.
  • hammbo1969hammbo1969 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 165 Arc User
    Thanks for all the advice. I've now got it working as it should.
  • demonmongerdemonmonger Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,350 Arc User
    And people say tr''s don't give advice hehe
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  • puravidacrpuravidacr Member Posts: 65 Arc User
    I never use WR - Seems most always have plenty of ArmPen to not realize any bennies.... Am I missing something?
  • talon1970talon1970 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 152 Arc User
    Tooltip wicked reminder:

    ".....lowering your Target's damage resistance....."

    This means all your attacks benefits from it and also not only yours all your party members dealing more damage.


  • apennineapennine Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    puravidacr said:

    . . . Seems most always have plenty of ArmPen to not realize any bennies.... Am I missing something?

    The tooltip is misleading. WR doesn't operate according to the normal damage reduction/ArPen rules but instead increases all damage against the target by x% even if the attackers have capped ArPen. Or at least that's the way it's supposed to work. There was a fair amount of discussion and testing about it around Mod 6 if you care to search for it, and I haven't heard of any changes.


  • puravidacrpuravidacr Member Posts: 65 Arc User
    apennine said:

    puravidacr said:

    . . . Seems most always have plenty of ArmPen to not realize any bennies.... Am I missing something?

    The tooltip is misleading. WR doesn't operate according to the normal damage reduction/ArPen rules but instead increases all damage against the target by x% even if the attackers have capped ArPen. Or at least that's the way it's supposed to work. There was a fair amount of discussion and testing about it around Mod 6 if you care to search for it, and I haven't heard of any changes.
    Makes sense "Now" - Thanks
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