LGPG Pre Flight ELol

indylol

http://xboxclips.com/Its+Viraaal/c90d9b6d-b746-4003-89fe-e3e565cd58d5

I know this is nothing new but my guildies decided to up the ante and do it with 2 people instead of 5.

pr3stigex

This is so mod 5.

firepats12

And using broken/cheap tactics. But sure, way to go.

indylol

@firepats12#3687

Using two people is broken and cheap?

Is ITF a hack now too? Lol

ltsmithneko

I think he's reffering to the buggy sw powers ect, Indy.

indylol

@ltsmithneko

Well you know first hand i know nothing about SWs, and I'm pretty sure the devs don't even know how SWs work at this point lol.

ltsmithneko

indylol said:

@ltsmithneko



Well you know first hand i know nothing about SWs, and I'm pretty sure the devs don't even know how SWs work at this point lol.

True. lol

firepats12

ltsmithneko said:

I think he's reffering to the buggy sw powers ect, Indy.

Yea, that's what I was referring too. @indylol

Even w/o being as geared as you two probably are, almost any combo of GF and SW could solo Lostmauth due to the extremely broken SW.

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ltsmithneko

firepats12#3687 said:

ltsmithneko said:

I think he's reffering to the buggy sw powers ect, Indy.

Yea, that's what I was referring too. @indylol

Even w/o being as geared as you two probably are, almost any combo of GF and SW could solo Lostmauth due to the extremely broken SW.

You'd think clips like these would be able to help them find the bugs.

firepats12

ltsmithneko said:

firepats12#3687 said:

ltsmithneko said:

I think he's reffering to the buggy sw powers ect, Indy.

Yea, that's what I was referring too. @indylol

Even w/o being as geared as you two probably are, almost any combo of GF and SW could solo Lostmauth due to the extremely broken SW.

You'd think clips like these would be able to help them find the bugs.

....I'm sure they know the bugs, not only from playing but also from the NUMEROUS posts on the forum. Finding and knowing the bugs are different from actually fixing them unfortunately. Which they seem to have a bit of trouble doing

maseta89

At the point we are at in the game if you are a warlock using Killing flames you wont impress me dont matter what you do.

ftryda

Nice work Indy, unfortunate for the harsh response to this post.

Before the notion gets propagated further, no not every warlock can do this. Warlocks need a rework (for issues like KF/MF) and the type of comments in this thread will definitely hinder any efforts to correct the bugs and round out the classes performance.

Also, I'm not sure why anyone downplays accomplishing this. Think about the grind and monotony that is the greater portion of this game. Speed running a dungeon that can drop an unbound valuable reward should be appreciated. Players that can do this only help the masses by hopefully putting a few more Lostmauth set pieces into the market. The more the better. Hopefully keeping prices lower and increasing accessibility to the set for newer players. Just sayin.. my 2 cents.

cesar

firepats12#3687 said:

And using broken/cheap tactics. But sure, way to go.

I guess this is what they mean by "play good". Epic LOL (no pun intended).

cesar

ftryda said:

Also, I'm not sure why anyone downplays accomplishing this.

Cause this is not an accomplishment... You're relying on really broken mechanics.

ltsmithneko

ftryda said:

Also, I'm not sure why anyone downplays accomplishing this.

Im more impressed when a sw (using non-broken mechanics) solo's bosses same with other classes.

sundance777

The game works the way it works, not his fault the powers hit harder than maybe intended. Good kill.

ftryda

Smh.... don't know why I bother.

Should aim negativity at devs and not within the community, but to each his own. Enjoy your bashing.

indylol

@ftryda

Its nothing new. I'm glad someone enjoyed it though. I'll see if Viral would make a few more clips similar to elol.

thefabricant

Congrads to you guys, I don't think its something those of us on PC have tried, so I will be sure to give this a try next

ecrana

Broken or not, they got it done so kudos to them. I'm not going to blame them for using the tools they were given to get something accomplished.

Just like I'm not going to blame people for getting tons of salvageable items from running dungeons with a bubble that they couldn't beat without a bubble.

If it's not being fixed (not holding my breath) than eventually it's no longer broken, it just is the way it is.

indylol

@thefabricant

I was actually surprised when he told me he did it because it never crossed my mind to try, but it seems that preflighting ELOL solo would be the most difficult thing to accomplish with the current content?

thefabricant

indylol said:

@thefabricant



I was actually surprised when he told me he did it because it never crossed my mind to try, but it seems that preflighting ELOL solo would be the most difficult thing to accomplish with the current content?

No transform eGWD solo would be

xxgolden1xx

The thing that bothers me about the people complaining is that there is always an argument involving the SW. If a SW uses damnation the only way a SW beats them is because of the broken puppet. If the SW uses Fury KF is broken. What do you want a temp lock that will heal you? The SW is supposed to be the hardest hitting caster stop crying.

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d4rkh0rs3

Coming from a SW vet, its not the SW's fault. Nearly every fast kill or dungeon solo video, regardless of the composition, either involves or focuses on a game feature that is not working as intended (Lostmauth set included).

The more constructive approach to this particar situation would be attempting to figure out how Murderous Flames interacts with third party buffs. There appears to be a damage loop in the database, as the numbers I have tinkered with in attempt to reproduce Murderous Flames values are not directly multiplicative and do not directly correlate with the buffs from the parent Killing Flames. Perhaps the community can work together by contributing data and more videos? Informing us of what local and third party buffs are active at the time Killing Flames is cast?

Edit: Example from a Lostmauth fight.
Killing Flames: 1,324,973 (377,378)
Murderous Flames: 3,791,102 (1,116,051)

Technically, given a Killing Flames hit of 1,324,973, Murderous Flames should hit Lostmauth (single target) for 30%, so 397,492. Instead, it hit for 2.86 times more than its parent Killing Flames. Furthermore, the base-to-buff ratio of Killing Flames was 3.511 compared to 3.397 for Murderous Flames.

GF, DC, and CW buffing, but no idea what buffs were active at the time Killing Flames was cast. More isolated approaches as shown in the OP's video with one buffing class (GF) are better to work with.

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thefiresidecat

the SW is just broken beyond repair. (at least of the seeming capabilities of the neverwinter devs.) without the puppet they basically deal no damage. with the puppet they're unstoppable. the puppet needs to be fixed to register damage as intended and the rest of the sw's arsenal needs a serious buff. When they redesign various character trees they need to replace nerfed to oblivion powers with something balanced instead of just making entire branches of the tree pointless. they need to put back coalwards, give us the "i'm sorry baby I won't hit yah no more" spiel. Offer some seriously good offers to get the gamer base to spend more money. do a few promos to get more people back in the game.. and hire a few more devs and spend time fixing broken stuff. i'd say IMO but it's fact of what needs to be done and won't be. LOL

firepats12

thefiresidecat said:

the SW is just broken beyond repair. (at least of the seeming capabilities of the neverwinter devs.) without the puppet they basically deal no damage. with the puppet they're unstoppable. the puppet needs to be fixed to register damage as intended and the rest of the sw's arsenal needs a serious buff.

Except KF, that also needs to be fixed to work as intended. So aside from Puppet, KF, and MF (which ALL need serious nerfs)....the other powers and stuff should be buffed.

thefiresidecat

if they dont do a holistic rebalance tho i dont think they should touch it

indylol

Unless I'm mistaken, the puppet is only strong in dungeons where the PvE enemies were buffed with the EE Launch, and in other areas like CN or Edemo the puppet becomes useless.

firepats12

indylol said:

Unless I'm mistaken, the puppet is only strong in dungeons where the PvE enemies were buffed with the EE Launch, and in other areas like CN or Edemo the puppet becomes useless.

Nope, the puppet is godly in all higher level dungeons.