plague fire weapon enchant r11 vs r12

wildfirede

So the difference between pure and transcendent plague fire enchant is 600k AD and a lousy 80dmg every 20 seconds?

demonmonger

Should be buffed somehow..

amafia313

Also the aoe attack on the 3rd stack

demonmonger

The aoe doesn't do much....

demonmonger

Maybe if there was an area debuff aoe

kemi1984

Transcendent Plague is not worth the upgrade ever since r12 path was introduced.
The AOE is a joke (no really, it is a joke...) so going past Pure is a waste of resources.

At least it does not have and stupid ICD like many of the - almost never used - enchants have.

rapo973

I've made the mistake to refine it to trascendent: 100% rubbish.
The AoE damages are ridiculous (~100 order of magnitude <- yes it's 100, not 1k, not 10k...)
Stop at pure level.

wildfirede

rapo973 said:

I've made the mistake to refine it to trascendent: 100% rubbish.
The AoE damages are ridiculous (~100 order of magnitude <- yes it's 100, not 1k, not 10k...)
Stop at pure level.</p>

Did the same mistake too.
bonus damage is between 86 and 120 with a CD of 20sec.
and the AoE is the bonus damage - there is no other gain.

Warning to players - if you are not going for the extra 10ilvl do not invest the money and time in Pure to Transcendent

kvet

I think a lot of the super upper level stuff isn't really worth the investment in general. Effectiveness plateaus around 3.5k ilvl anyway, which you can get with R10s and maybe a few R11s and legendary-quality artifacts (not mythic). (edit: clarification: PvE effectiveness - PvP is worthless and broken, so I won't even begin to speak to that. Also, not saying 3.5 is needed in PvE, it's not, you can do ANYTHING in this game with 2.5ilvl if you're skilled, and anything with 3K even if you're marginal. My point is you'll stop noticing any real increase past around 3.5 because you'll already be walking through nearly everything anyway).

Nitpick: An "order of magnitude" is a number times ten. So... one order of magnitude is x*10, 2 orders of magnitude is: x*100 and so on (count the 0's, that's how many orders of magnitude you're looking at).

So... 100 is an order of magnitude less than 1000 which is two orders of magnitude less than 100,000 (which is 3 orders of magnitude larger than 100)

Just putting this out there since the term was misused above and I'm both of a math geek and terribly pedantic

rapo973

kvet said:

Just putting this out there since the term was misused above and I'm both of a math geek and terribly pedantic

indeed, you're but you're right about the formal definition of order of magnitude.

krymkac

Well i get that funny illusion that r12 aoe helps me keeping agrgo while tanking. Otherwise yup worthless. But its true for so manyr12 enchants. Not like r12 vorpal worth it. Or r11-12 neg. Or soulforged.

wildfirede

@kvet sorry can't qoute from mobile.

Yes i agree with that and there are imbalances like 100k ad for a goat + 50k for 3 of the loyal and some r7 stones give 5k stats while a simple belt jewel costs 100k ad and gives 100 stats....

But atleast you can read that from the tooltip.

In the plague fire case you could know (ingame wo reading forums) that it does some aoe and after paying 500k ad realize the said aoe does 80 damage.

deathbeez

One of the many enchants not worth getting past perfect.

carianne9

excellent post/comments, will save me from making this upgrade mistake. thanks all

demonmonger

No problem

feanor70118

Yes, in Cryptic's relentless desire to ensure that players are rewarded for the in-game currencies, refinement and time that they tirelessly invest in upgrading their weapon enchantments to the highest possible level, they have indeed rewarded you with about 100 damage every twenty seconds! Isn't that a thrilling return on your investment of ten superior marks of potency, 1.7 million RP, two coalescent wards, and three greater marks worth about 40-50k AD apiece? Doesn't it build your trust that the dev team understands and cares about players' priorities and their in-game experience?

wildfirede

And do not forget there was a time when upgrading to transcendent even broke the previous bonus too (think that was on terror) or the class skills working with 3 points in them but not when you spend your 4th hard erned powerpoint

or the as of this patch not working paladin shift key skill... testing things out is not one of the strenghts of the team...

fixing them when reported... well...not one too... but atleast they are good at promotions (wait strike that out too - promoting to buy things that are not for sale anymore (dresses and dyes from current event) to get coins for a mount that runs 20k AD in the AH)...

carianne9

feanor70118 said:

Yes, in Cryptic's relentless desire to ensure that players are rewarded for the in-game currencies, refinement and time that they tirelessly invest in upgrading their weapon enchantments to the highest possible level, they have indeed rewarded you with about 100 damage every twenty seconds! Isn't that a thrilling return on your investment of ten superior marks of potency, 1.7 million RP, two coalescent wards, and three greater marks worth about 40-50k AD apiece? Doesn't it build your trust that the dev team understands and cares about players' priorities and their in-game experience?

what you said!

carianne9

wildfirede said:

... but atleast they are good at promotions (wait strike that out too - promoting to buy things that are not for sale anymore (dresses and dyes from current event) to get coins for a mount that runs 20k AD in the AH)...

love it. they also can't get the AH search options to work correctly. you can't use them at this time.