Updated HR High Crit Build [MOD8]

thefiresidecat

I am not usually on during prime time. gotta spend time with the hubby. I'm on during the day and very very late at night. like 1am or 3am for an hour or so before going to bed. I did respec last night but here are some photos anyway. before and after combat. the stats should go higher than the combat one in reality because it's just reflecting my mercs proc of gift. not my own rings. huh I guess also a fire boon must have worn off between first image and second. LOL. while I haven't really played anything of note to judge this on knowing how I normally do (in a range) I do note that it works well with perfect dread. perfect dread's con is that careful attack and your super don't have the benefit but with this build they Still have a lot more natural buff behind them and proc high still.

davidagaldo

First, OMG that character race is fugly!

Second, if you could get closer to 60% CC with your present iL, you will see a better result. IMHO.

If my memory serves me, I was 61.5% CC and 155% CS.

thefiresidecat

this is after respec. so I lost 10% Crit. it was pushing 80 % in fights.

Just did CN with a pug. got my highest score to date. one data point but I didn't do worse... I think I'm keeping the build. at least for now. LOL.

rhadamathys

Run with a CW and you'll be at 100%...run with a DC/GF and you'll lol all the way to the top...

wdj40

@thefiresidecat why is your HP so low?

I have roughly the same IL as you yet I have 140k HP.... Why would you want only 80k?

I`m just curious, but you know most Mount Insignia's work off your own HP right? Also a few other things rely on HP like the Tenebrous Enchant in an Offence Slot... Mine does 5-6k a hit at Rank 12 for example.

Just as a comparison here is my screenshot (I don't know how to imbed them into the thread like you did lol)

Idle http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/wdj40/screenshot/4290699

Companion Bonding only procs http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/wdj40/screenshot/4290701

thefiresidecat

how did you get yours so high? LOL. a I think the build i had before was about 10k higher in hp. the crit build sacrifices some of the incidental hp from boons and whatnot. as far as I know nothing I'm doing or using is based off hp. all of my enchants and what not go to crit or lifesteal. I decided to follow the guide to the letter this time around. lookign closer though the HP feat isn't chosen and instead ap gain is picked. that's probably not that wise considering it's not like we suffer for ap gain. I'll probbaly spend the 100k to redo it tomorrow to get that ten percent back.
*edit did it tonight. up to 94k hp. that's better. not as high as yours but I can't recall seeing anyone that wasn't a tank with that kind of HP. LOL. Do you pvp or something?

I also changed the feat that gives you .5 second cool down on melee stances (serpents weave) for the deflect chance feat (fluid hunter)

to embed images I save the screenshot on my xbox then I share it to one drive. then I dl to my computer and then I upload it to photobucket. From there I use the direct link and plug it into the image bar at in the menu tool tip (it's the document) hit preview to make sure it looks right and bob's your uncle.

wdj40

Oh no, this is all my PvE gear and set up... I have 3 pieces of Lionsmane to swap into for PvP and change Boons around etc but I am waiting for the changes/nerfs to happen 1st as it is pretty frustrating at the moment.

I`ll list my HP sources :
Dragonflight Raid Hood - 10,554
Elem Elven Assault Coat - 19,867 + Savage R10 (1040)
Elem Dragonflight Assault Bracers - 10,968
Elem Dragonflight Raid Gaiters - 10,968
Savage 8 in 1 of my double slotted rings - 600
Drowcraft Shirt - 1134
Drowcraft Trousers - 1134
Wheel of Elements Mythic - 4000
I presume I get 15% of my Mercs HP of 29,819
Toughness Feat gives 9% extra HP which is massive
Sharandar Boon Feywilds Fortitude - 1600
Underdark Boon Primordial Vitality - 1600
Underdark Boon Primordial Regenesis - 1600
ToD Boon Dragonheart - 1600
Guild Stronghold Boon - 25600

That Toughness Feat is huge these days due to lots of things having high HP on them, it effects every single item you equip

rhadamathys

been debating the HP vs LS on the guild boon. We don't have the HP one yet, but do have LS and Defense...GH 15 atm, about to be 16. I like the LS because it puts me at around 30% which means I almost always insta heal, and for the DPS I hit with, that's usually full HP. I'm somewhere between 128-130k HPs, not sure...been struggling lately with what to do defensively...Unbuffed, I'm around 3.5k Defense, 9k LS, 15% deflect, 128k HP...I'm running trans shadowclad, but not sure it's as good as advertised....better than negation for sure...I tried upping defense to 10k and LS at 3k, but that didn't seem to work out as well...

One thing that I think is underrated, but I'm unwilling to use unless it's a +5, is the Impenetrability Ring...immune to damage for a few seconds is usually enough time to ensure you proc a LS...now, if they made that into an armor enchant...

wdj40

Life Steal is pretty easy to come by these days... I have a little over 1k on my Merc so he sends over 95% x 3 when we are in combat. My natural LS is around the 10% mark and I also have a Ring of Rising LS +4 equipped on my HR. I also have the Boon Endless Consumption to times the LS by 3 occasionally.

Plus there are Mount Insignia Bonuses now to give Heals etc... I find anything over 10% LS before all the procs is a bit overkill

I also do not need to equip Lone Wolf any more either, I found sticking a Sudden Deflect Ring on my Companion is just as good... He sends over 3 x 95% of 4000 and takes me up to almost 50% in combat without Lone Wolf

Edit... looking at your stats you went for higher LS than me but less Defence. I`m not online right now but off my head I think my Def is 6k and LS 2.5k, then I get all the buffs to LS, Power and Deflect in combat. Also my Merc sends over 95% x 3 of 8k Power (4000 from Sudden Power ring and 4000 equipped).

soonergm

i'm not entirely sold on the skirmishers gambit build. i am now at 3.1 IL, over 50% crit chance before companion procs and sometimes i will get beat in edemo with similarly or even lesser geared HR. example, the other day a 2800 IL doubled my dps. i prefer constricting, long striders, cordon rotation. funnily, i was crushing him/her in the first 2 rounds and then he blew me away in round 3, probably due to careful attack. further more he/she had an ioun stone, and i have a merc with bonding stones.

i am currently playing around with SW, but have had several runs as PF, and i have never had THAT kind of success. but the build is not horrid by any means, i guess i really need a +5 crit ring on my companion to really start getting the best out of it.

raymond00713

@soonergm sometimes it's as simple as the other team of 5 having a guardian fighter or even their guardian fighter is better than yours. If the other hr was on your team, then i dunno. I use this build for the most part and the only hrs who come close are those in tia or edemo that are in a different group than me with a gf when i dont have a gf in my group

wdj40

I personally dropped the Skirmishers Gambit build quite some time ago. I also had 50% Crit (10k), a ring of rising Precision +4 equipped... then 95% x 3 of 1.8k from Companions Gift.

Still I just felt like I was not doing the same level of damage I can achieve out of my full Trapper. The loss to Serpents Bite and roots is a lot more than people think. Yes I was seeing big damage numbers and big Crits but over all I just felt like I lost too much from Trapper.

I also read on the PC side of the game that using ACT they discovered a loss of DPS over all putting the 15 points into the Combat tree instead of Trapper.

By all means I am not saying it is a bad build, it is actually very effective and very good but only at EXTREMELY high crit chance levels... I`m 3.3k Item Level and I feel you probably need around 4k item level to get the most out of it.

But personal preference for me is full Trapper.

raymond00713

Doesn't need to be 4k. You get a lot of crit from your companion.

alliera7311

I have tried this build well above the 3K mark before even before it was submitted on here. Never worked out for me ended up being a dps loss. You loose to much to gain Gambit.

rhadamathys

I saw a DPS gain when I was running with my guild. Mostly because our guild parties tend to be different than most out there. From a straight up moist party composition (GF, DC, CW, this build, anything else), the melt factor was amazing...granted the melt factor is always amazing when you have the right party

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thefiresidecat

my stats are massively different again. find myself wanting to go back and forth and see what's better but I don't want to go to all the trouble of respeccing possibly two more times again. I wish they had a test lab or some way to have two entirely different paths for the same critter.

davidagaldo

What are you with now? Hi-C or std build?

I am at 73% CC and 98% CS. I removed a companion boosting CS.

When I did run the Hi-C build, I was keeping up with SW.With the std build I can still run with CWs but in the end they edge me.

What is Vendetta using cause he can DPS. I need to run with you and watch.

You should give it a go with Yoshee in the lobby. He is a decent GF. I have fed off him with my HR and fed him with my DC.

soonergm

I too am curious about Vendetta. Some of my friends over there have told me about him.

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dmcewen

If you learn to maximize your rotation and build your character correctly, you can out damage any class. The Hi-C simply can't complete with a standard trapper, especially during longer fights.

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davidagaldo

soonergm said:

I too am curious about Vendetta. Some of my friends over there have told me about him.

Why wonder, join the guild... or have your leaders consider an alliance.

davidagaldo

dmcewen said:

If you learn to maximize your rotation and build your character correctly, you can out damage any class. The Hi-C simply can't complete with a standard trapper, especially during longer fights.

So true, if you break rotation, or waste buff/debuff potential, you'll miss out on DPS. But, I don't know about Hi-C losing out to std build. I am crit specific now that I changed to LM set and considering returning to Hi-C.

I have changed my rotation some to get my at-wills to ramp-up and encounters consistently higher. Should not change much using Hi-C. I presently have 5 in combat.

tacobeast94

This build was made to do maximum DPS in a premade. With the people I run with in my guild, nothing is alive long enough for dots to do anything.

You're absolutely right, you'll have trouble in long fights, but this build isn't designed for long fights.

tacobeast94

I may convince my buddy to post his guide(s) detailing the HR as a whole as well as the different variations you can use for builds.

soonergm

tacobeast94 said:

This build was made to do maximum DPS in a premade. With the people I run with in my guild, nothing is alive long enough for dots to do anything.



You're absolutely right, you'll have trouble in long fights, but this build isn't designed for long fights.

i think this is on the money. this build provides a lot more burst, and when running with a group that's pulverizing mobs in a few seconds you need your damage immediately. i also think if you are running with a sub-optimal group you could simply change out to a more traditional rotation and get those dots. ultimately it still comes down to skirmishers gambit vs aots, is it worth the sacrifice? because you can change your encounters out dependent upon the situation.

dmcewen

@soonergm I sent you a XBL message, let me know if you're interested.