Is AC Rightous Viable?

soonergm

It seems like many go with DO for a rightous build. What are the negatives of going with AC? The primary reason I'm looking at it is for Blessing of Battle + Battle Fervor. I don't like the idea of losing brand but the buff to allies power seems oh so tastey, especially with a live companion running bondings.

fizbad

Brand of the Sun. It's the best damaging at-will we have, it regenerates divinity while you do other stuff, and it helps proc Fire of the Gods.

If you're going to go up the Virtuous tree, it's certainly viable to be AC to buff better. Just have to test whether you can generate divinity fast enough.

dfnce

fizbad said:

Brand of the Sun. It's the best damaging at-will we have, it regenerates divinity while you do other stuff, and it helps proc Fire of the Gods.

This.

Brand of Sun makes gameplay more fluid. Bless of Battle (main AC buff at-will) is slow compared to Brand Of Sun and you have to worry more about divinity with AC.

Prophecy of Doom is good unique skill.

Both DO and AC can use triple buff DG/E BrkS/E FF (when needed), but because of Brand Of Sun effectiveness, DO is winner.

AC purpose is different, AA daily is in same league with tanking dailies offered by GF/OP. It is the main reason why people even started use AC in mod 6.

fizbad

dfnce said:

fizbad said:

Brand of the Sun. It's the best damaging at-will we have, it regenerates divinity while you do other stuff, and it helps proc Fire of the Gods.

This.

Brand of Sun makes gameplay more fluid. Bless of Battle (main AC buff at-will) is slow compared to Brand Of Sun and you have to worry more about divinity with AC.

Prophecy of Doom is good unique skill.

Both DO and AC can use triple buff DG/E BrkS/E FF (when needed), but because of Brand Of Sun effectiveness, DO is winner.

AC purpose is different, AA daily is in same league with tanking dailies offered by GF/OP. It is the main reason why people even started use AC in mod 6.

I am not sure how practical it is to have a triple buff including 2 encounters. By the time I regain divinity, BtS is usually off cooldown already. That's why I speculated that if you give up FF for AC, then you move one of the buffs to an at-will, which may make buffing easier. I haven't tested this idea yet (so far I've exclusively ran as a DO/DC), but that's the theory.

soonergm

Is BotS really that good for generating divinity? I have been trying to pay better attention the past few days... I brand a few enemies, do some encounters and my divinity bar barely moves. Most of my divinity seems to be coming from sacred flame.

Edited: BotS not BtS

fizbad

soonergm said:

Is BtS really that good for generating divinity? I have been trying to pay better attention the past few days... I brand a few enemies, do some encounters and my divinity bar barely moves. Most of my divinity seems to be coming from sacred flame.

You mean BotS, not BtS, I imagine. Most of my divinity regen comes from LoF. But having a stack of enemies branded helps in that you keep gaining divinity while not spamming at-wills.

lerapiso818

The divinity ticks gain from BotS don't stack

soonergm

lerapiso818 said:

The divinity ticks gain from BotS don't stack

thanks, i thought i might have been doing something wrong. I'm planning on playing with some test dummies tonight just to see how quickly divinity adds up from BotS. I know there are other benefits, but as far as divinity, it may be worth it to use another at-will one or two times to top off, instead of using brand on 4-5 enemies. right now it seems like i am spamming brand, to avoid spamming my other at-will, but in reality i end up spamming both.

Brand helps us proc Bear Your Sins, which is a 10% damage buff from all sources. FF is a dot, won't that proc Bear Your Sins? It's an encounter, so I can't tag multiple trash targets with it, but personally I am not as worried about trash anyway. Also, if we circle back to my original premise, as an AC with Battle Fervor + enough power, for the most part the buff should be able to make up for the loss of Brand + Bear Your Sins (if you choose to spam Blessing). However, now when we get to a boss, we get the additional buff from Battle Fervor, plus the dot from FF procing Bear Your Sins.

i am very much theorizing here, and this cleric is my 2nd character (which has been shelved for a while) so if someone has experience that says otherwise, please chime in.

putzboy78

Tthe beauty of BotS is to have it going while using divinity. You can get another pip without using at-wills or start using divinity with 2 pips and the third is there by the time your ready for it if you throw BotS after second pip and then start your divine rotation. My guess is the old Kaelic rule of sacred flame for most divinity and lance for best dps to divinity ratio still holds true but I haven't tested it.

soonergm said:

FF is a dot, won't that proc Bear Your Sins?

FF is a DoT and will proc bear your sins but it is much easier to use divine glow and/or sunburst as your go to for procing bear your sins sins it AOE. Those two have added functionality as well but will not generate the single target damage of FF. that's why its more popular in pvp than in pve

fizbad

putzboy78 said:

Tthe beauty of BotS is to have it going while using divinity. You can get another pip without using at-wills or start using divinity with 2 pips and the third is there by the time your ready for it if you throw BotS after second pip and then start your divine rotation. My guess is the old Kaelic rule of sacred flame for most divinity and lance for best dps to divinity ratio still holds true but I haven't tested it.

I last checked SF in the 60s and hated it. The animation seemed clunky, and the divinity gain was about the same if not worse than LoF (not mention the considerable damage differential). So I took it off my bar and never looked back. Perhaps it's worth testing it again on the odd chance it scales better with gear/level.

putzboy78 said:

soonergm said:

FF is a dot, won't that proc Bear Your Sins?

FF is a DoT and will proc bear your sins but it is much easier to use divine glow and/or sunburst as your go to for procing bear your sins sins it AOE. Those two have added functionality as well but will not generate the single target damage of FF. that's why its more popular in pvp than in pve

If you're looking to proc Bear Your Sins on a small number of targets, FF is probably the best choice, plus it comes packaged with some crowd control in divinity mode. Personally, I use SB for this when solo because I don't have to aim or click twice (the clicking twice part especially gets real old real quick). Also, SB has some heals and knockback can be useful if you start going down quick. However, if you're looking to provide support/dps in a group, your best loadout is probably DG/FF/BtS.

durugudesu

A Righteous AC with points in gift of haste is my current DC build. Is it effective? It is more than effective. Even with just me alone,(though i prefer having another DC to lighten the buffing/debuffing load) CN can be done smoothly, smoothly as in people not needing to wipe or run around or stay away, they just stay close, and dps the life out of the bosses, usually 3 seconds or more before it gives up and dies. so yeah, AC righteous is one awesome viable and useful builds for a DC. you debuff and buff, but still give ap(not as high as virtuous, but it is enough).

Edermask@durugudesu