mamalion1234Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,415Arc User
edited March 2016
Fine Enchantment. I like it and I will try to obtain it asap via grinding CN and getting more AD.
here is my opinion about shadowclad the whiner guild about broken things:) http://postimg.org/image/5crrqvl7p/ and their cleric rin something. yea permastealth on node 2. sw told me : i dont use the broken ambush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe he missed the part ambush is wai shadowclad is not! Noone of my team had the enchant ( the excuse the use when enemies has it).
Horrible Enchantment. It completely destroys PVP. I consider quitting the game if it goes live with those stats without being toned down.
Sry, but running PVP and using permastealth by abusing broken gear like shadowclad or ambush is simply no PVP. Noone running that <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> deserves any respect , not in forum nor ingame My warlock even can't target such nonsense....no way, no excuse and no PVP in this game til it's fixed or just disabled. IMO PVP can only survive in case we get a radical solution like all this c.rap is disabled in DOM
I don't care. I will do PVP with the current enchant I have, it works fine for me.
Stuck with my trans. Elven.
I did fight a GF with a trans. Shadow yesterday in dom, 1 on 1 after gg. Ridiculous. He disappeared after my first rotation and I was playing hide and seek all over the node. Caught him with foxes quite often, and followed my little green disruptive arrows around to get a sense of where he was. If he'd had better gear he'd have slaughtered me, as it was we stalemated till the match finished.
Sillier even than ambush, at least with ambush they have to keep moving... but this thing... pff.
I was thinking that not using broken items will help the game and keep some balance in PvP. I was wrong, and my thought now is that PvP guild should use all the broken stuff they can find ingame and make the PvP a hell to all. PvP will be deserted, and maybe they will understand and listen.
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icyphishMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,255Arc User
It would be interesting if we run full premade the whole weekend with everyone geared the most broken stuffs to the max level... then maybe people would know how fun it is to deal with a group like this... ~
I was thinking that not using broken items will help the game and keep some balance in PvP. I was wrong, and my thought now is that PvP guild should use all the broken stuff they can find ingame and make the PvP a hell to all. PvP will be deserted, and maybe they will understand and listen.
My theory is easy. Daze not works, so timer of stealth which counting cooldown in variable is not changing. By this Shadowclad have 0 cooldown and grants nearly perma-stealth.
It would be interesting if we run full premade the whole weekend with everyone geared the most broken stuffs to the max level... then maybe people would know how fun it is to deal with a group like this... ~
I was thinking that not using broken items will help the game and keep some balance in PvP. I was wrong, and my thought now is that PvP guild should use all the broken stuff they can find ingame and make the PvP a hell to all. PvP will be deserted, and maybe they will understand and listen.
It's more about to make ppl leave game and the company realize their mistake
It would be interesting if we run full premade the whole weekend with everyone geared the most broken stuffs to the max level... then maybe people would know how fun it is to deal with a group like this... ~
I was thinking that not using broken items will help the game and keep some balance in PvP. I was wrong, and my thought now is that PvP guild should use all the broken stuff they can find ingame and make the PvP a hell to all. PvP will be deserted, and maybe they will understand and listen.
No please, I appreciate it having matches against BIS player not abusing that HAMSTER. Since you are the only guild that follows strictly some kind of codex it would not change a lot and in the end you will get bored. Take it as a challenge to punish the ones using that HAMSTER. And it´s the majority, who can´t and won´t use this HAMSTER. I know about some guys from my guild using drains, but we have no policy or codex. Maybe every guild should get something like that. What about an open letter to all guildleader? Since cryptic doesn´t hear us maybe some will change their mind? I am sure our guildleader would think about it, since PVP i near dead, and it´s about FAIRPLAY (beside stupid geargap etc)
I don't care. I will do PVP with the current enchant I have, it works fine for me.
lol encountered it quite alot now. It's so broken. Not just the lack of cooldown, but the stealth is total invisiblity. Undetectable by distance. It's stronger than invincibility!
It is clearly an enchant for PvP, but why the hell didn't they test it? It would have taken them literally 10 minutes to see it wasn't working properly. Even indie games made by one person have less bugs than this game...
We already did achieve as community to almost ban Ambush ring + drains from PvP. Thanks to Absolute, Essence of Aggression.... Gutbusters Brigade helped as well as far as I know.
Only PuGs keep running with it, but that's a minority.
So it's even more of a mysterium for me, why people from the competitive PvP guilds use trans shadowclad while they ban ambush + drains, I really don't get it!
It's a mistake to avoid using broken stuff, of course it helps the game to not sink, but why would we do that ? The company only cares about numbers, they don't read feedbacks. So now, if they want to see how broken items can affect the game population and even their incomes. We have to use them, and when they see in their datas that there is something wrong , they will read and grant what we claim. Otherwise they won't do anything else than implementing more broken stuffs. Also, there is a minority that read or writte on forums, rest of the players won't come to tell their toughts about SC, Drains, etc, because they think it's ok, some pvp guild don't use them anyway. Now all pvp guild should play those broken stuffs and we show cryptic how wrong is their politic to unbalance game for the purpose of making money. We are not responsible of their failure.
A lot of people in this thread have flags planted on both sides of this argument. I've witnessed many use rings such as Ambush, Vision, etc. They say they only used them for a short time, fine. For some that is true, other, uh well, not so much.
It is the exact reason why I persisted in using a Ring of Ambush as long as I did. The community is two-faced and it is only a matter of time before you run into someone abusing something against you. I haven't been using Ambush for awhile now and I really don't feel any "cleaner" than I did before, simply because there is always another broken thing flying at you. Also, it helps that I have two useful + 4 rings now, the necessity of using what I had is now gone.
Yes, if Shadowclad doesn't get fixed its an absolutely horrific enchantment for the PvP environment.
If it does get fixed, it shouldn't be a huge deal. Now we wait.
you are a TR, it doesn´t make a big difference to me if you use that ambush ring in DOM or not, but meeting an ambush GF allways make me headache, these guys are poor in most aspects , talking about fairness and playstyle
We already did achieve as community to almost ban Ambush ring + drains from PvP. Thanks to Absolute, Essence of Aggression.... Gutbusters Brigade helped as well as far as I know.
Only PuGs keep running with it, but that's a minority.
So it's even more of a mysterium for me, why people from the competitive PvP guilds use trans shadowclad while they ban ambush + drains, I really don't get it!
Why is it a mystery to you? This is how those guilds work... currently the enchant can only be had by a very small group and that group is limited to them so they deem it fine and working as intended... but heaven forbid everyone gets access to it... they will come to the forums screaming and whining and shaming till everyone stops using them.
Please remember this the next time someone from those guilds plays the "We are better than all of you because we have banned the use of these by our guild". It is simply not the truth and the truth is as long as it gives those guilds the defined advantage they will use the item.
...to almost ban Ambush ring + drains from PvP. Thanks to Absolute, Essence of Aggression.... Gutbusters Brigade...
haha don't make me laugh, nearly every second member of GB use drains/ambush same goes to EoS and some of Absolute too few days ago saw one using it,
But even if they decide to use or not who cares?, a BIS-Player will always win no matter what this stuff or not, Having a max Rank-Guild free 8k + 4k Mount stat and running with full R12/ trans .. that is what is makes differents!, --
I always said drains and ambush is good for low geared player to stay a bit longer alive than normally, with stuff low geared players have chance to survive longer and this is why i can say i don't care anymore if someone use it or not ,cuz the real issue is what i mentioned before. --
to Shadowclad: that enhancement is not as far unbalanced as Negation or feytouch with 100% uptime are, Just ask your self why are both enchantments BIS? Neg/Fey simply because they are Overpowered as hell,
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Fine Enchantment. I like it and I will try to obtain it asap via grinding CN and getting more AD.
Hi everyone. Haven't been here for some time but what i can say about shadowclad as i got it maybe the first one in first 30 min after "maze engine " launched. PERFECT. Yes its no CD on stealth what it makes it OP( daze doesn't work at all,would be nice to fix it) but what about nega/fey? Like ppl mentioned above, the same broken stuff. 99% of BIS players using it. Ppl from guilds who complains about shadow using it. Double standarts? And yes those ppl from those guilds are using darins, AP gain bugs, bubbles and other <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. But since another ppl using shadow that what the bothers them the most. Don't try to be clean as you already in deep <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> for so many mods.lol. Don't wanna use shadow, don't use. Nobody forces you. But don't come here to pretend to be a holly angel. That is friking hilarious.It is perfect counter to TR's SE ( that broken since mod 5) It is perfect counter to GF's deadly rotation that also broken as hell. It is perfect counter to perma repel. It is perfect counter to perma roots.Now here is the true. Every class can have shadowclad. Up to you use it or not but not every class has 1 shot piercing daily and other broken <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> from the above. Give you example. Saber. Extremely skilled GWF tried shadow out and decided to not use it. Good. His decision ( like other ppl made their decision to not use it). Maybe he likes to be one shoted, one rotated...Maybe, i don't know. Recently i got SE without GF buff 180k . I had 190k hp. But tell me how many GWFs, CWs, Hrs, SWs,GFs running so high hp? Maybe few maybe none. But all we know that only GWF/SW can not dodge SE. So this is the point. Since shadowclad will protect me even 1 out of 10 SEs i will fcking using it and recommend to others. ONE BROKEN STUFF COUNTERS ANOTHER BROKEN STUFF MAKES PERFECT BALANCE. Don't like me using shadow, go get ring of vision. Is it friking difficult? I use ring of vision to fight permastealth TRs or ambush wearers. What's the problem? PS; Nobody liked permastealth TRs. Now every class can be almost perma stealth. Perfect. Ahahahaha. Next step to give to every class piercing damage on daily.
Horrible Enchantment. It completely destroys PVP. I consider quitting the game if it goes live with those stats without being toned down.
OK...a permainvisible enemy wich can target me all time, twohitting my class with full buffs, but I can´t target him even in case he stands on my head? Very balanced in my eyes....yes, that´s how PVP has to be like, playing against 24/7 invisible targets all time and getting hit from nowhere. Thanks cryptic that´s really enlightening. Maybe you are the first company who developed that kind of PVP in the hole world, go and sign a patent on this ... it will renew PVP all arround the world and you gonna get rich and famous
Fine Enchantment. I like it and I will try to obtain it asap via grinding CN and getting more AD.
> @schietindebux said: > OK...a permainvisible enemy wich can target me all time, twohitting my class with full buffs, but I can´t target him even in case he stands on my head? > Very balanced in my eyes....yes, that´s how PVP has to be like, playing against 24/7 invisible targets all time and getting hit from nowhere. > Thanks cryptic that´s really enlightening. Maybe you are the first company who developed that kind of PVP in the hole world, go and sign a patent on this ... it will renew PVP all arround the world and you gonna get rich and famous :)
Why you didn't cry about permastealth TRs? We didn't have any rings back then and was getting hit from nowhere. The same. Isn't it. But now you have ring of vision. It was made especialy for ppl like you)
Hi everyone. Haven't been here for some time but what i can say about shadowclad as i got it maybe the first one in first 30 min after "maze engine " launched. PERFECT. Yes its no CD on stealth what it makes it OP( daze doesn't work at all,would be nice to fix it) but what about nega/fey? Like ppl mentioned above, the same broken stuff. 99% of BIS players using it. Ppl from guilds who complains about shadow using it. Double standarts? And yes those ppl from those guilds are using darins, AP gain bugs, bubbles and other HAMSTER. But since another ppl using shadow that what the bothers them the most. Don't try to be clean as you already in deep HAMSTER for so many mods.lol. Don't wanna use shadow, don't use. Nobody forces you. But don't come here to pretend to be a holly angel. That is friking hilarious.It is perfect counter to TR's SE ( that broken since mod 5) It is perfect counter to GF's deadly rotation that also broken as hell. It is perfect counter to perma repel. It is perfect counter to perma roots.Now here is the true. Every class can have shadowclad. Up to you use it or not but not every class has 1 shot piercing daily and other broken HAMSTER from the above. Give you example. Saber. Extremely skilled GWF tried shadow out and decided to not use it. Good. His decision ( like other ppl made their decision to not use it). Maybe he likes to be one shoted, one rotated...Maybe, i don't know. Recently i got SE without GF buff 180k . I had 190k hp. But tell me how many GWFs, CWs, Hrs, SWs,GFs running so high hp? Maybe few maybe none. But all we know that only GWF/SW can not dodge SE. So this is the point. Since shadowclad will protect me even 1 out of 10 SEs i will fcking using it and recommend to others. ONE BROKEN STUFF COUNTERS ANOTHER BROKEN STUFF MAKES PERFECT BALANCE.
Don't like me using shadow, go get ring of vision. Is it friking difficult? I use ring of vision to fight permastealth TRs or ambush wearers. What's the problem?
PS; Nobody liked permastealth TRs. Now every class can be almost perma stealth. Perfect. Ahahahaha. Next step to give to every class piercing damage on daily.
Have a nice day and see you there
i saw some few gwf live and kill tr maybe you need to ask them how they do it because they dont use shadowclad or ring of vision.
> OK...a permainvisible enemy wich can target me all time, twohitting my class with full buffs, but I can´t target him even in case he stands on my head?
> Very balanced in my eyes....yes, that´s how PVP has to be like, playing against 24/7 invisible targets all time and getting hit from nowhere.
> Thanks cryptic that´s really enlightening. Maybe you are the first company who developed that kind of PVP in the hole world, go and sign a patent on this ... it will renew PVP all arround the world and you gonna get rich and famous
Why you didn't cry about permastealth TRs? We didn't have any rings back then and was getting hit from nowhere. The same. Isn't it. But now you have ring of vision. It was made especialy for ppl like you)
BECAUSE the permastealth theory is not valid. ONLY TR WITH AMBUSH OR SHADOWCLAD or both has permastealth. who asked you to go fight tr if you cant do it in first place?:) AND when my party doesnt include rogue you still use it. AT least admit it you cant play other way.
I can clearly say now that this is another marketing stunt they pulled after seeing shadowclad GF in IWD.They do this with every new enchantment.They give one more overpowered enchantment just when everything start to settle down and people and game get used to previous overpowered thing and get some sort of twisted balance.
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Noone running that <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> deserves any respect , not in forum nor ingame
My warlock even can't target such nonsense....no way, no excuse and no PVP in this game til it's fixed or just disabled.
IMO PVP can only survive in case we get a radical solution like all this c.rap is disabled in DOM
I did fight a GF with a trans. Shadow yesterday in dom, 1 on 1 after gg. Ridiculous. He disappeared after my first rotation and I was playing hide and seek all over the node. Caught him with foxes quite often, and followed my little green disruptive arrows around to get a sense of where he was. If he'd had better gear he'd have slaughtered me, as it was we stalemated till the match finished.
Sillier even than ambush, at least with ambush they have to keep moving... but this thing... pff.
Fix plz. And fix ambush too while you're at it.
I was wrong, and my thought now is that PvP guild should use all the broken stuff they can find ingame and make the PvP a hell to all. PvP will be deserted, and maybe they will understand and listen.
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Since you are the only guild that follows strictly some kind of codex it would not change a lot and in the end you will get bored.
Take it as a challenge to punish the ones using that HAMSTER.
And it´s the majority, who can´t and won´t use this HAMSTER.
I know about some guys from my guild using drains, but we have no policy or codex.
Maybe every guild should get something like that.
What about an open letter to all guildleader?
Since cryptic doesn´t hear us maybe some will change their mind?
I am sure our guildleader would think about it, since PVP i near dead, and it´s about FAIRPLAY (beside stupid geargap etc)
It is clearly an enchant for PvP, but why the hell didn't they test it? It would have taken them literally 10 minutes to see it wasn't working properly. Even indie games made by one person have less bugs than this game...
and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
The company only cares about numbers, they don't read feedbacks.
So now, if they want to see how broken items can affect the game population and even their incomes. We have to use them, and when they see in their datas that there is something wrong , they will read and grant what we claim. Otherwise they won't do anything else than implementing more broken stuffs.
Also, there is a minority that read or writte on forums, rest of the players won't come to tell their toughts about SC, Drains, etc, because they think it's ok, some pvp guild don't use them anyway.
Now all pvp guild should play those broken stuffs and we show cryptic how wrong is their politic to unbalance game for the purpose of making money.
We are not responsible of their failure.
Please remember this the next time someone from those guilds plays the "We are better than all of you because we have banned the use of these by our guild". It is simply not the truth and the truth is as long as it gives those guilds the defined advantage they will use the item.
nearly every second member of GB use drains/ambush same goes to EoS and
some of Absolute too few days ago saw one using it,
But even if they decide to use or not who cares?, a BIS-Player will always win no matter what this stuff or not,
Having a max Rank-Guild free 8k + 4k Mount stat and running with full R12/ trans .. that is what is makes differents!,
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I always said drains and ambush is good for low geared player to stay a bit longer alive than normally,
with stuff low geared players have chance to survive longer and this is why i can say i don't care anymore
if someone use it or not ,cuz the real issue is what i mentioned before.
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to Shadowclad: that enhancement is not as far unbalanced as Negation or feytouch with 100% uptime are,
Just ask your self why are both enchantments BIS? Neg/Fey simply because they are Overpowered as hell,
Don't like me using shadow, go get ring of vision. Is it friking difficult? I use ring of vision to fight permastealth TRs or ambush wearers. What's the problem?
PS; Nobody liked permastealth TRs. Now every class can be almost perma stealth. Perfect. Ahahahaha. Next step to give to every class piercing damage on daily.
Have a nice day and see you there B)
Very balanced in my eyes....yes, that´s how PVP has to be like, playing against 24/7 invisible targets all time and getting hit from nowhere.
Thanks cryptic that´s really enlightening. Maybe you are the first company who developed that kind of PVP in the hole world, go and sign a patent on this ... it will renew PVP all arround the world and you gonna get rich and famous
> OK...a permainvisible enemy wich can target me all time, twohitting my class with full buffs, but I can´t target him even in case he stands on my head?
> Very balanced in my eyes....yes, that´s how PVP has to be like, playing against 24/7 invisible targets all time and getting hit from nowhere.
> Thanks cryptic that´s really enlightening. Maybe you are the first company who developed that kind of PVP in the hole world, go and sign a patent on this ... it will renew PVP all arround the world and you gonna get rich and famous :)
Why you didn't cry about permastealth TRs? We didn't have any rings back then and was getting hit from nowhere. The same. Isn't it. But now you have ring of vision. It was made especialy for ppl like you)
AND when my party doesnt include rogue you still use it. AT least admit it you cant play other way.