I think they should modify bosses to be immune to different kind of attacks as you progress on killing it, like it needs to be controlled to be able to take damage, then it needs to freeze up to take damage or need to be debuffed to take damage.
The thing is that you should have to do different things to kill it and not just sit there in the OPs bubble without even moving and just shooting all you got.
It would be nice to have a real D&D type encounter. But with todays never ending DPS model I want expect anything like that however. Even when one does try to run and buffer or healer type set up people only notice your DPS score and not any of the none DPS you gave to the group. But that is life with a leader board crew and on it DPS is king.
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,421Arc User
IL is one of the bad things Cryptic did. Gear score was not good but it is way better than IL. The idea of IL is to compare items. It was not meant to be a measurement of a character's strength. Gear score was. A character with no augment pet can have lower IL than another character but be more powerful. Using IL as the entrance requirement to a dungeon is a bad idea. However, there is no other measurement stick available.
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As long as dungeons don't give rewards the latent problem will still be there. I really hope the new dungeons give some reward, even if it's just a small chance, because right now there's basically only one dungeon in the game, eLoL, unless you count eDemo.
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putzboy78Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,950Arc User
Everything in that post is too expensive to be reasonable. Do you know any cheap way? [nothing over 30k AD that's all i can afford]
that sounds like P2W lol
seriously 30k is one day of farming, you can get decent enchants for 30k. The cycle is so easy get blue gear, get enchants, do t1, get better gear, go t2, get better gear, go iwd and farm black ice, make gear elemental, done
It's a grind but there is a process and its not that difficult, especially when there are mountains of 3k+ people running around joining parties to do the damage for you
In Mod 0, when no one could afford stats to get a meaningful Lifesteal, you couldn't just pull a whole dungeon and faceroll slaughter through everything. There was actually control needed, a tank had to tank, a healer had to heal, while the DPS was slowly nibbling the elite mobs and bosses down. Overall it required a lot of synergy between the classes.
Lifesteal made it a faceroll and took all requirements for any synergy. It was a great game. Lifesteal has to go. And Paladins have to go (or at least the bubbles). Then this could be a great game again.
Currently i feel burned out towards Neverwinter. I log only into the game for my daily lockbox key and sometimes doing a few dailies but that's it. I played every Dungeon we have in the game so often i don't wanna log in. The new skirmishs have nice ideas but are so time extenisve that it is tiring me to participate in them.
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lirithielMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,482Arc User
In Mod 0, when no one could afford stats to get a meaningful Lifesteal, you couldn't just pull a whole dungeon and faceroll slaughter through everything. There was actually control needed, a tank had to tank, a healer had to heal, while the DPS was slowly nibbling the elite mobs and bosses down. Overall it required a lot of synergy between the classes.
Lifesteal made it a faceroll and took all requirements for any synergy. It was a great game. Lifesteal has to go. And Paladins have to go (or at least the bubbles). Then this could be a great game again.
This. In a game where they try to promote the holy trinity, Lifesteal has made the role of healer unnecessary for the most part. They need to drop Lifesteal as a stat for all classes, keeping it only for Healocks by adding a buttload of it on their gear and return Regen to what it was, giving us little amounts of healing during combat but not enough to endure heaps of damage, while still requiring a healer to keep us up during spike damage. Loved the previous incarnation of Regen. The Mod 6 version is shell of what it used to be.
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In Mod 0, when no one could afford stats to get a meaningful Lifesteal, you couldn't just pull a whole dungeon and faceroll slaughter through everything. There was actually control needed, a tank had to tank, a healer had to heal, while the DPS was slowly nibbling the elite mobs and bosses down. Overall it required a lot of synergy between the classes.
Lifesteal made it a faceroll and took all requirements for any synergy. It was a great game. Lifesteal has to go. And Paladins have to go (or at least the bubbles). Then this could be a great game again.
Meeeeeh. This is a load of bunk. You still want a DC and a tank for any T2 run. Everyone is so overgeared that T1s would be a cakewalk regardless as to how lifesteal works. Lifesteal is only really relevant for solo'ing and even then it's not all that relevant unless you're 4k and soloing dungeons.
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lirithielMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,482Arc User
In Mod 0, when no one could afford stats to get a meaningful Lifesteal, you couldn't just pull a whole dungeon and faceroll slaughter through everything. There was actually control needed, a tank had to tank, a healer had to heal, while the DPS was slowly nibbling the elite mobs and bosses down. Overall it required a lot of synergy between the classes.
Lifesteal made it a faceroll and took all requirements for any synergy. It was a great game. Lifesteal has to go. And Paladins have to go (or at least the bubbles). Then this could be a great game again.
Meeeeeh. This is a load of bunk. You still want a DC and a tank for any T2 run. Everyone is so overgeared that T1s would be a cakewalk regardless as to how lifesteal works. Lifesteal is only really relevant for solo'ing and even then it's not all that relevant unless you're 4k and soloing dungeons.
Not even necessary. I have done eToS both without a tank and a healer. Totally doable made possible by...wait for it...Lifesteal. Without it we'd all be a messy pile of bodies and I'm the squishiest class in-game: Archer HR.
Our pain is self chosen.
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
I am very well geared and frankly I am having loads of fun.
Many of us that do not post or play the forums often actually are playing the game precisely because it is fun.
There exists harsh difficulties on every map that you cannot solo anymore, be it from one those mobs with extreme one shot damage abilities or HEs that require you to group. I would love to solo that wod drake rider HE and if one day I can i wont be "bored" afterwards LOL
These threads of being bored has nothing to do with the game and all to do with the chosen perceptional angles of the gamer themselves. Obviously the game was fun enough for you to play and attain your 4k or 5k gear ...and why did you do that? To not experience power? Why is it that when some people actually achieve something they choose to discard the results of it? ...no idea
The game is shining and briming with fun and from what i read, with the dungeons coming back that will be challenging but not extreme and expanding soloable content.... its upward skyward and blue here folks.
plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,421Arc User
This is why I have no hurry to be BiS. I do everything slowly and in my own slow pace. Even after I get the new gear/weapon, I don't switch to them right the way. Even when I have enough RP, I have no urge to fill them right the way. When my character has really nothing to do (like in mod 5), I build new character from scratch.
*** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
These threads of being bored has nothing to do with the game and all to do with the chosen perceptional angles of the gamer themselves. Obviously the game was fun enough for you to play and attain your 4k or 5k gear ...and why did you do that? To not experience power? Why is it that when some people actually achieve something they choose to discard the results of it? ...no idea
Love this!
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minotaur2857Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,141Arc User
Everything in that post is too expensive to be reasonable. Do you know any cheap way? [nothing over 30k AD that's all i can afford]
that sounds like P2W lol
seriously 30k is one day of farming, you can get decent enchants for 30k. The cycle is so easy get blue gear, get enchants, do t1, get better gear, go t2, get better gear, go iwd and farm black ice, make gear elemental, done
It's a grind but there is a process and its not that difficult, especially when there are mountains of 3k+ people running around joining parties to do the damage for you
Not even one day of farming, go to WoD, do demonic HEs salvage the rings, do skirmishes etc. You can get rank 7 draconics in every non utility slot relatively quickly and cheaply. The key is refining your artifacts from blue to purple, there's 200 points right there which will push you over 2K. Get in a guild that does dragonflight runs, virtually unlimited seals for blue equipment, and a surplus to salvage.
I'm not level 70 I'm not in a guild yet I don't have resources to get artifacts I don't have resources to refine artifacts I don't play everyday I don't have spare money to spend I don't have enough AD to buy anything I don't have gold to buy anything [not like there's much to buy. . .] The only AD I get comes from PVP and dungeons, which is nowhere near 30K. My paladin specs are messed up since I respected to the wrong paragon path I can't buy a retraining token since my account won't let me so I may just have to delete my paladin.
You can level to 70 in a short amount of time. If you can play two hours a day, you should be able to finish the 10 levels in 2 weeks?! It's boring as hell, but you will get there. Not being in a guild is not an option in this game, even if you are a sociophobic person. There is no way to get your equipment without mindless encounter grinding and no money spend. On the good side,equipment isn't needed beyond a low minimum value. Your class, paladin, will get nerfed in the next patch or this game is fubar.
Tl,dr: This game is P2W or grinding your HAMSTER of-to-win. Therefore, enjoy it the way you like or (more likely) leave as soon as possible, so you don't get pulled into the (vanishing and toxi) community.
Retired since 02/15 My opinions are my own. Please do not judge my friends nor guild for my statements.
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drkbodhiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 2,378Arc User
edited February 2016
I do not know where people are getting there numbers. 2 to 3% of all players on PC are 3.0 iL or higher??
LMAO... you clearly have not been running and doing the same things I have. In CA, alone we have at least 30% of our members have 1, 3k iL toon. I know other guilds who are chock full of 3k and higher. Yes we there are a lot of lower level toons in the game but many of them are being played by the same people who have those 3k+ toons... out of sheer boredom.
Right now, I watch members in CA hanging out in the SH and waiting to run something or just chatting. When we run a guild eDemo it is always gold. We do speed runs through eLoL and eToS... against other parties from the guild. When the ONLY challenge in the game is Dom... where the hell do we go from there?
I used to wonder how the people that started CA lasted this long playing a game that lost all the challenge that was there. If you all remember... when M6 came out and everyone was bitching about how hard it was... what did I say?
I said that there will be a point in time where we will adapt to the stimuli and overcome... and eventually be asking for more of a challenge. I guess we know where we are at.
I will always stand behind the 2 Goddesses and the 2 lesser deities, to a certain extent... LOL, who run CA. It is not because I am sucking up to them... pffft I suck up to no one... it is because we are a guild of like-minded folks. They also buy me off with cookies and 5h17.
Atwil "At" - Tiefling TR / Saardush - Black Dragonborn GWF / White - Tiefling OP
I'm really envious of you end game guys. My main has been around since Caturday (with a cloak to prove it) but I still don't have enough Ilevel to fight epic demo. =P
I agree @drkbodhi , on console we have five to eight guilds at stronghold 13+. Tons of 3-4K players.
I'm guild 70%+ are over 2.7K: enough to play every content in few minutes. I made an experiment: I quit my guild for a while to play the content without the SH to discover that there is almost nothing interesting to do. I'm 3.7 but I've many things I would like to improve (bonding runestones as an example), but I'm so bored to run the same contents again and again that I prefer to play another game.
Oltreverso guild leader Maga Othelma - DC | Svalvolo - SW | Dente Avvelenato- GWF
Start a new toon and replay the game. Developers can't do anything for you, can't create new content just for a very minority.
Game eventually can be more alt-friendly. It's not bad currently, but can be better.
NW is very much alt-UNFRIENDLY atm. Still waiting for changes to make it a less tedious process.
Well, I can make one toon with Epic equipment in 2 weeks time by paying 10$ per month, that's not what is called alt-unfriendly Lirithiel. There are far worse games in this aspect. The only real stop are boons, too much of a grind and they cost so much if one want to pay for them.
Aye gear (head, chest, arms and feet) is easy to acquire. The problem lies with companions, artifacts and boons, which cannot be purchased for a mere 10 dollars a month.
Our pain is self chosen.
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
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The thing is that you should have to do different things to kill it and not just sit there in the OPs bubble without even moving and just shooting all you got.
seriously 30k is one day of farming, you can get decent enchants for 30k. The cycle is so easy get blue gear, get enchants, do t1, get better gear, go t2, get better gear, go iwd and farm black ice, make gear elemental, done
It's a grind but there is a process and its not that difficult, especially when there are mountains of 3k+ people running around joining parties to do the damage for you
In Mod 0, when no one could afford stats to get a meaningful Lifesteal, you couldn't just pull a whole dungeon and faceroll slaughter through everything. There was actually control needed, a tank had to tank, a healer had to heal, while the DPS was slowly nibbling the elite mobs and bosses down. Overall it required a lot of synergy between the classes.
Lifesteal made it a faceroll and took all requirements for any synergy.
It was a great game.
Lifesteal has to go. And Paladins have to go (or at least the bubbles). Then this could be a great game again.
I played every Dungeon we have in the game so often i don't wanna log in. The new skirmishs have nice ideas but are so time extenisve that it is tiring me to participate in them.
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
Many of us that do not post or play the forums often actually are playing the game precisely because it is fun.
There exists harsh difficulties on every map that you cannot solo anymore, be it from one those mobs with extreme one shot damage abilities or HEs that require you to group. I would love to solo that wod drake rider HE and if one day I can i wont be "bored" afterwards LOL
These threads of being bored has nothing to do with the game and all to do with the chosen perceptional angles of the gamer themselves. Obviously the game was fun enough for you to play and attain your 4k or 5k gear ...and why did you do that? To not experience power? Why is it that when some people actually achieve something they choose to discard the results of it? ...no idea
The game is shining and briming with fun and from what i read, with the dungeons coming back that will be challenging but not extreme and expanding soloable content.... its upward skyward and blue here folks.
Not being in a guild is not an option in this game, even if you are a sociophobic person.
There is no way to get your equipment without mindless encounter grinding and no money spend.
On the good side,equipment isn't needed beyond a low minimum value.
Your class, paladin, will get nerfed in the next patch or this game is fubar.
Tl,dr: This game is P2W or grinding your HAMSTER of-to-win. Therefore, enjoy it the way you like or (more likely) leave as soon as possible, so you don't get pulled into the (vanishing and toxi) community.
Heroes of Darkness
Retired since 02/15
My opinions are my own. Please do not judge my friends nor guild for my statements.
LMAO... you clearly have not been running and doing the same things I have. In CA, alone we have at least 30% of our members have 1, 3k iL toon. I know other guilds who are chock full of 3k and higher. Yes we there are a lot of lower level toons in the game but many of them are being played by the same people who have those 3k+ toons... out of sheer boredom.
Right now, I watch members in CA hanging out in the SH and waiting to run something or just chatting. When we run a guild eDemo it is always gold. We do speed runs through eLoL and eToS... against other parties from the guild. When the ONLY challenge in the game is Dom... where the hell do we go from there?
I used to wonder how the people that started CA lasted this long playing a game that lost all the challenge that was there. If you all remember... when M6 came out and everyone was bitching about how hard it was... what did I say?
I said that there will be a point in time where we will adapt to the stimuli and overcome... and eventually be asking for more of a challenge. I guess we know where we are at.
I will always stand behind the 2 Goddesses and the 2 lesser deities, to a certain extent... LOL, who run CA. It is not because I am sucking up to them... pffft I suck up to no one... it is because we are a guild of like-minded folks. They also buy me off with cookies and 5h17.
I made an experiment: I quit my guild for a while to play the content without the SH to discover that there is almost nothing interesting to do.
I'm 3.7 but I've many things I would like to improve (bonding runestones as an example), but I'm so bored to run the same contents again and again that I prefer to play another game.
Oltreverso guild leader
Maga Othelma - DC | Svalvolo - SW | Dente Avvelenato- GWF
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
Oltreverso guild leader
Maga Othelma - DC | Svalvolo - SW | Dente Avvelenato- GWF
"...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.