If I have a legendary companion, do I need to upgrade my purple Augment companion?

alphastream

Hi all,

I have a Legendary companion, which when active means any summoned companion will grant my character 15% of its stats.

My summoned companion is a purple/epic companion. Is there any benefit to upgrading it to legendary? It doesn't fight, so it doesn't need a hit point boost. Is there any other benefit? Do stats increase in any appreciable/worthwhile way?

Separate question: if it were a purple non-augment companion that fought with me, would it be worthwhile then? I think it would get 14% more hit points, but is that really a measurable benefit?

Thanks for the help!

bioshrike

IIRC, That only applies to that companion itself, when it is the one that is summoned. I do not think you get that 15% when it is not summoned...

sorce

Correct. The Companion/Augment that you have summoned, if it is legendary, grants you 15% of it's stats (And I'm pretty sure needs to be the first companion in the list - not sure if that bug was ever fixed).

Usually you'd only have one Legendary Companion - the one that is summoned. If using an Augment, this is the one you'll want to make Legendary.

niadan

Legendary bonus works in any slot. It makes more sense to have the summoned companion legendary due to the extra stats it receives at the legendary ranking.

alphastream

Agreed that the Legendary Bonus (gain 15% of summoned companion's stats) works in any slot, on any summoned companion.

niadan said:

Legendary bonus works in any slot. It makes more sense to have the summoned companion legendary due to the extra stats it receives at the legendary ranking.

How big is that Stat increase? I didn't see that in the wiki.

I am wondering if the stat increase is worth my upgrading it to legendary. I have one legendary, but want to use my epic augment companion. How big is that stat increase for all that AD?

sorce

Ahhh, good to see they fixed the bug with it only applying the 15% bonus if in the first slot.

tvcity

the 15% stats may equal to (roughly) 1700 stat points, if the enchants used are all rank 12s..

alphastream

I understand that the 15% will be a decent boost, but I already have that from my first legendary companion. My question is what boost, if any, the augment companion (or any companion) gets stat-wise when you bump it up from Epic to Legendary. That boost wouldn't be on gear, I think.

lirithiel

alphastream said:

I understand that the 15% will be a decent boost, but I already have that from my first legendary companion. My question is what boost, if any, the augment companion (or any companion) gets stat-wise when you bump it up from Epic to Legendary. That boost wouldn't be on gear, I think.

There is no need for you to upgrade a second companion to legendary unless you no longer plan to use your first legendary companion in an active slot.

rayrdan

does multiple legendary bonuses stack?

plasticbat

rayrdan said:

does multiple legendary bonuses stack?

No.

plasticbat

lirithiel said:

alphastream said:

I understand that the 15% will be a decent boost, but I already have that from my first legendary companion. My question is what boost, if any, the augment companion (or any companion) gets stat-wise when you bump it up from Epic to Legendary. That boost wouldn't be on gear, I think.

There is no need for you to upgrade a second companion to legendary unless you no longer plan to use your first legendary companion in an active slot.

Since the first legendary is not an augment and the OP wants to summon an augment pet, there is a tiny (not worth doing) advantage to make the augment pet to be legendary. The augment pet base skill attributes will be increased from Epic level to Legendary level. Since this is an augment pet, that tiny increase will also be passed to the character.

I would say the AD cost will have better use somewhere else.

alphastream

Awesome! That was my guess, and I didn't want to drop a million AD on something tiny! Thanks!

theoddis1

alphastream said:

I understand that the 15% will be a decent boost, but I already have that from my first legendary companion. My question is what boost, if any, the augment companion (or any companion) gets stat-wise when you bump it up from Epic to Legendary. That boost wouldn't be on gear, I think.

if your first legendary companion is not the one summoned then you dont get that 15% so if you switch to an augment then you lose that 15%

smulch

My ioun stone of allure gives 422 stats to recovery power and crit with nothing else at lvl 40.
my Erinyes gives 470 recovery and power at 35 ( I suppose hp is the third augmented stat)
my blink dog gives 470 power, crit and arp
my intellect devourer gives 470 to 3 stats also.
My wildhunt rider is odd with 2 stats at 528. He also has a lot of hp.

Edit: upgrading the intellect devourer to legendary (still lvl 35) increased the stats to 504 each.
Edit#2: Those stats are with 12% companion stat bonus from charisma. at 13% bonus it jumps to 473. So without any of that bonus, I'd estimate the stats to be around 440 to 450.

commanderdata002

tvcity said:

the 15% stats may equal to (roughly) 1700 stat points, if the enchants used are all rank 12s..

I think it only applies to the base stats of the companion and not the jewelry and the enchantments.

alphastream

Just to be clear, we have two things going on here:
1) Making an active companion Legendary will give any summoned companion a +15% stat boost. That may be just to base stats, but it is an active power that works if you have even a single active (doesn't have to be summoned) companion.
2) Upgrading a companion usually boosts stats. My question in this thread is about the upgrade from epic to legendary for an augment companion. Does that upgrade give enough of a boost, for an augment companion, to be worth it? I don't need the boost from #1, since I already have a legendary companion.

The answer seems to be that it isn't worth it. If I understand what Smulch wrote above, the intellect devourer went from stats of 470 to 504. It isn't worth 1 million AD to get a +34 bump to two stats. Therefore, if you have one legendary companion, you don't need to make a summoned augment companion legendary. It isn't worth the price.

smulch

alphastream said:

Just to be clear, we have two things going on here:
1) Making an active companion Legendary will give any summoned companion a +15% stat boost. That may be just to base stats, but it is an active power that works if you have even a single active (doesn't have to be summoned) companion.
2) Upgrading a companion usually boosts stats. My question in this thread is about the upgrade from epic to legendary for an augment companion. Does that upgrade give enough of a boost, for an augment companion, to be worth it? I don't need the boost from #1, since I already have a legendary companion.

The answer seems to be that it isn't worth it. If I understand what Smulch wrote above, the intellect devourer went from stats of 470 to 504. It isn't worth 1 million AD to get a +34 bump to two stats. Therefore, if you have one legendary companion, you don't need to make a summoned augment companion legendary. It isn't worth the price.

It's not just +34 stats. There's also 5 levels that I didn't do (because it was on the preview and I'm not gonna bother leveling a companion there). legendary doesn't give 15% stats to the companion. It makes the currently summoned companion transfer 15% of its CURRENT stats to the owner.

plasticbat

theoddis1 said:

alphastream said:

I understand that the 15% will be a decent boost, but I already have that from my first legendary companion. My question is what boost, if any, the augment companion (or any companion) gets stat-wise when you bump it up from Epic to Legendary. That boost wouldn't be on gear, I think.

if your first legendary companion is not the one summoned then you dont get that 15% so if you switch to an augment then you lose that 15%

It is not true. If you have a legendary companion active, you will get 15% of the summoned companion (which is not necessary to be the legendary companion).

carianne9

I find all of this terribly unclear. Can anyone refer me to some source for clarification? I google'd this topic and didn't find a wiki on upgrading companions.

On a side note, sadly - I acquired enough upgrade tokens on a character who has two legendary companions already. Oh how I wish the tokens were sharable with my other companion!!

alphastream

carianne9 said:

I find all of this terribly unclear. Can anyone refer me to some source for clarification? I google'd this topic and didn't find a wiki on upgrading companions.

There isn't any official source. Even the information in the game itself can be incorrect.

What I understand:
When you upgrade a companion to legendary, and it is active (doesn't have to be summoned), your summoned companion (doesn't have to be legendary) grants 15% of the summoned companion's stats to you. This is a strong reason to get at least one companion to legendary.

Now, upgrading a companion also increases the stats of the companion itself by a small amount. Upgrade the companion, it gets more hit points and more stats. But, those numbers aren't printed anywhere. You could run through the upgrade on preview and see how big a difference it is, but I doubt it is worth 1 million to upgrade a companion this way if you already have one legendary.

nathan

Ok. The answer you're looking for is no. I would not upgrade an augment to legendary.

Reason being is I have yet to see data that shows that the 100% augment bonus would become %115 bonus. And augments generally have weak stats to begin with.

Since it does not HAVE to be summoned, then I would pick the one that has an active tyou will always need, and may even be willing to use as the summoned companion as with bonding stones + the legendary bonus + the extra utility, dps, and survivability, will be much greater than you summoned augment.

nathan

Also it might help if we knew which companions you were considering for this

kvet

plasticbat said:

It is not true. If you have a legendary companion active, you will get 15% of the summoned companion (which is not necessary to be the legendary companion).

This is incorrect. The Legendary bonus only applies to your summoned companion. If you have more than one legendary companion, you do NOT get the legendary bonus from the one that is not currently summoned.

Just to put this particular issue to bed, I did a quick test:

The legendary black dragon stone has a power stat of 780. With the Legendary bonus, I would expect that to transfer 117 power to me. Here's what really happens:

Two legendary companions:


Power rating with both active, but Warlock summoned:


Black dragon stone removed from active list completely:


Power rating without black dragon stone in list:


Unsummoned the Legendary warlock:



Power Rating with one legandary companion, unsummoned


Added both Legendary companions, but neither summoned:



Power rating with both legendary companions, unsummoned:

wildfirede

I think you are meaning two different things

If you have any of your companions upgraded to legendary - and it is one of the 5 active companions you have 'equipped'

Any companion will get a legendary bonus - which is - gives 15% of your summoned companion stats to the player,

So once you have your powerstone Golgothan active (not summoned)
and summon Fluffy you get additional 15% of Fluffy stats to yourself - like if you equipped fluffy with Eldritch runestones.


It is simpler to read it as a active bonus (which is actually what it is) - Gives player 15% of it's current summoned companion stats.



Edit: there was a bug a year or so ago - dunno if it is fixed now - where the legendary companion must be in the first Active companions slot or be summoned for things to actually work as described above.

Edit2: Legendary bonuses do not stack (afaik).





Edit 3: To clarify Plasticbat is right

plasticbat said:

theoddis1 said:

alphastream said:

I understand that the 15% will be a decent boost, but I already have that from my first legendary companion. My question is what boost, if any, the augment companion (or any companion) gets stat-wise when you bump it up from Epic to Legendary. That boost wouldn't be on gear, I think.

if your first legendary companion is not the one summoned then you dont get that 15% so if you switch to an augment then you lose that 15%

It is not true. If you have a legendary companion active, you will get 15% of the summoned companion (which is not necessary to be the legendary companion).

Here is my defense with no legendary companion active (equipped in those 5 slots) and a Epic companion summoned






here is my defense with a legendary companion Active (in those 5 slots) and still the same Epic companion summoned




So to quote : If you have a legendary companion active, you will get 15% of the summoned companion (which is not necessary to be the legendary companion)
is a correct statement

dsn1118

kvet said:

This is incorrect. The Legendary bonus only applies to your summoned companion. If you have more than one legendary companion, you do NOT get the legendary bonus from the one that is not currently summoned.

Just to put this particular issue to bed, I did a quick test:

You are already getting 15% bonus from all those 4 cases.Your power fell down on 3rd case because your summoned companion 'Fluufy' probably doesnt have 'Power' stat. You didnt summon any companion on the last one

kisakee

To make this clear one and for all:

Your active companion needs to be legendary, so you will benefit from his 15% bonus. No other companion will be affected from this, just the one who's legendary AND summond at the same time. No active companion will ever get this bonus from another legendary one. Never!

qexotic

kisakee said:

To make this clear one and for all:

Your active companion needs to be legendary, so you will benefit from his 15% bonus. No other companion will be affected from this, just the one who's legendary AND summond at the same time. No active companion will ever get this bonus from another legendary one. Never!

That statement is just completely wrong. Here is what the Legendary Bonus gives you:



That is, any summoned companion/pet will give the summoner 15% of it's stats as long as the Legendary companion/pet is active

kisakee

If they do so, they finally fixed it. Didn't worked for long time like this.

dsn1118

kisakee said:

If they do so, they finally fixed it. Didn't worked for long time like this.

I think it alwaays worked if you put your legendery one on the first slot.I have friends using this since day 1

alphastream

It's funny how many times we go around on this, but I appreciate everyone working hard on this - we all seek the truth!

Again, it seems pretty clear that there are two things we are talking about:

1) Having any active (not necessarily summoned) companion at legendary will give you 15% of the stats of the currently summoned companion (even if that summoned companion is not legendary).

Opinion: I think that's a decent reason to have at least one companion at legendary.

2) My original question is: If you already own at least one legendary, and you have a non-legendary augment you want to summon, are the benefits to the stats (because every companion gains higher base stats as it levels) worth upgrading it to legendary. Here, the only new benefit is that the summoned augment gains slightly higher stats and passes them on to you.

Opinion: We need to test/confirm more, but it looks like the bump in stats is not worth the high cost.