17sec Lostmauth Kill with One DPS (2 GFs 2 DCs 1 TR)

seldomcare

Had to post this. Completely unexpected.

https://youtu.be/4UU5XH6GQn8

Seldom - Executioner Trickster Rogue
Rockstardom - Swordmaster Guardian Fighter
Meta4 - Iron Vanguard Guardian Fighter
Fenris - Virtous Devoted Cleric (Divine Oracle)
Pies - Righteous Devoted Cleric (Divine Oracle)

When I first saw the group comp, of course I was stoked to be running with nothing but buff/debuff classes to amplify my damage. But surely didn't expect the outcome. The 1.5mill stealthed lashing blade into a 4.2 million shadow of demise took off over a 3rd of his health to get the killshot.

Piea contributed what damage he could, but totalled just over 10 million for the run. However, his buffs was paramount to the success of the kill.

For anyone who thought TRs were nerfed beyond relevance, this one's for you.

Enjoy

soonergm

Righteous DC is a DPS

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raymond00713

Also... Paragon Gaming!

cscriv79

Now imagine it with a GWF instead of the TR :P

meta4king

With two GFs? Amazing.

seldomcare

@cscriv79 rockstardom has posted another lostmauth kill video, I went up against two GWFs, I doubled their damage. I've gone against a lot of GWFs. There is only one who contends with me. But never beats me in lostmauth. I assure you, Trickster Rogues are underestimated.

@soonergm I commented toward that. During the fight he contributed just about as much damage as a virtous cleric would in a typical fight. As this was not his focus. His focus was buff/debuff. Actively waiting for appropriate timing.

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soonergm

Well, I do get your point. I just got my righteous to 70. But on xb1 I don't see many virtuous clerics getting 10 million dps on any dungeons. I haven't seen any properly spec'd gwf get beat by anything other than scourge warlocks and that's rare too.

Also I don't know what the deal is but usually the TR is the lowest of all dps in the runs that I've been in where as in mod 5 it was the opposite. What changes have you made to your build to remain competitive?

Do you know what kind of weapon enchantment Fenris uses?

oldbaldyone

While this run isnt hard on PC, I don't see anyone doing it this fast. Is there something different between the 2 systems ? I want to say that Lostmauth goes invulnerable once you get to 50% no matter what on PC.

eion311

oldbaldyone said:

While this run isnt hard on PC, I don't see anyone doing it this fast. Is there something different between the 2 systems ? I want to say that Lostmauth goes invulnerable once you get to 50% no matter what on PC.

Nope it's possible on the PC as well, I have done it numerous times. It's all about the debuffs/buffs from DC's and GF.

Edit: The point is you have to time the buffs and bosses animation. The boss wont stop doing an attack move so if you can kill him before the animation/attack ends Phase 2 will never start.

seldomcare

@soonergm I'll find out. And I merely meant that on that particular fight, Piea (Righteous) was focused on buff/debuff, and accrued the typical damage output of a virtous cleric. Just for that fight. The idea was to see if we COULD do it with one dps. Just so happened that we did.

As for staying competitive. The rotation is paramount, at least 50% of the arguement. I personally don't believe any other rogue uses my rotation. It's exposed in the video however. I incorporated two stealthed attacks into one shadow of demise. This was most definitely possible due to the amount of recovery I have. The most underutilized stat by rogues.

Secondly is state distribution, crit is just as important to an executioner build, as it is to great weapon fighters. Finding the balance between power crit and recovery however, is the real task.

Maybe I'll create a guide, because quite frankly, most of the neverwinter population sees rogues as inadequate.

@oldbaldyone the post above couldn't have explained it better. We time everything in accordance with lostmauth's encounter cycle.

seldomcare

Also. Stealthed duelist's flurry, is by far the strongest move a rogue of any spec has. If you watch the vid. The stealth lashing blade that intiated the 4.3 million shadow of demise, was hitting for 500-700k per swing. Mind you, the flurry part of the attack hits 10 times in roughly 2-3 seconds.

seldomcare

The stealthed duelist's flurry* that initiated the shadow of demise

(Correction for above post)

armadeonx

Seldom, I'd love to see a guide from you, I'm levelling a TR atm - he's at L61 as I've been too busy with X2 everything on my other characters for AD generation this week. He is executioner, it seems everyone wants to run perma-stealth for pvp but I'm more interested in him running pve so any help would be great

cscriv79

If you are able to top the damage board when with an equally equipped GWF in the group I would love to see it and be very interested in your build, so far I have not seen a single TR beat a GWF in a head to head dungeon run.
The vid is amazing would be interested to see crusendo,flourish and IBS damage with same buff/debuff group (would it be a similar result?)

seldomcare

@cscriv79 if cocobutter, the gwf I'm referring to as my main contender was in an identical scenario, I think it would be doable. A gwf is the only other dps class that could given the burst. My enchants are slightly better than his. Once he gets his last bondings from 10 and 11 to 12, It should be more realistic to think so. At his current level, he beat me for the first time in an elol un last night. This was without a GF however, whose buffs favor me more, and a few errors on my part. But, he is definitely not far from exchanging leadership of damage boards through multiple runs. My current Ilvl is 3500. I've run with GWFs over 4000, coco is the only one who's ever given me trouble.

I'll most likely be making a guide on my next day off. I'll post it here.

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dreadkiss

this is not anything to look at your using gf exploits......

raymond00713

Always so negative.. i think someone likes attention

seldomcare

@dreadkiss Exploits? Lmao. There's no exploit. You could argue that getting 5 and 6 stacks of companions gift from companion respawn is an exploit. But Rockstar's companion doesn't die. His buffs are sherely from 3-4 stacks of companions gift (the normal game mechanic), skill, stat distribution, and spec. Sorry if you're jelly.

@john6522 I'd love to have you in a lostmauth run. In regards to my statement that was my own ignorance of how competing GWFs negate each other. Regardless, that was one instance. I typically only run with one GWF, not two. Id prefer a 3rd buff class. Even still cocobutter is the only one who has ever given me real neck and neck competitions. But I still hold the elol crown. Add me, and we'll get some runs in. We should be running in about an hour.

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dreadkiss

you killing lostmouth with reflect damage from the gf that takes no skill

dreadkiss

raymond00713 said:

Always so negative.. i think someone likes attention

no i just hate stupidity ....... i hope they suspend you for cheating...

zman81420

The infinite damage loop of which you speak of is only obtainable with a Paladin and a GF. The true strength here is Into The Fray Buff from each GF. I know rock star boost his Team DPS out put over 100% with each encounter used based off of companions gifts bolstering Damage resistance into a huge team buff. I am sure enchantments, buffs and additional debuff's was the also a factor. Two GF cannot deflect that amount of damage, some ticks maybe if Guarded assault is on both of them but nothing that substantial in my experience. Double GF if they are wearing Knights valor really just helps to soften the blow of absorbing 50% of team damage to each of them and further negating the damage absorbed.

dreadkiss

that chunk is coming from the gf i bet i could play and beat at least two or three of them in dps and i cant take chunks off mobs like that he lost a quarter of his health in one hit

zman81420

It does seem crazy I know but believe me Into the fray is nuts when boosted correctly and the right crit hits.

seldomcare

@dreadkiss you are stubborn and misinformed, and I seriously doubt you would come close. If you watch the video, you can see that my stealth lashing blade hit for 1.4 million, and my shadow of demise hit for 4.3 million the same second. The numbers are right there, clear as day. That's where the chunk of health went.

Rockstar's damage buffs alone equate to almost 180% with into the fray and single target debuffs. Please learn and understand classes mechanics before trying to put your big boy pants on, I don't think they fit.

If you do decide put your big boy pants back on, when you grow into them, I'd love to have a friendly damage contest.

raymond00713

So self hate? I bet you couldn't beat him. You should give it a shot

dreadkiss

gt mh havoc i love to show off