Useless Lockbox rewards

zenbarrri

Why are we receiving rewards from lockbox's that we are either paying for keys for or through vip rewards opening a daily box where in the end we most likely receive an item that is not usuable to our class. This should be an item that is useul or needed, not some random item that may or may not be usable. And "you can turn them in for AD is not an acceptable answer, your paying ALOT of money for those few AD.."

urabask

zenbarrri said:

Why are we receiving rewards from lockbox's that we are either paying for keys for or through vip rewards opening a daily box where in the end we most likely receive an item that is not usuable to our class. This should be an item that is useul or needed, not some random item that may or may not be usable. And "you can turn them in for AD is not an acceptable answer, your paying ALOT of money for those few AD.."

Just sell the whatever you get from the lockbox. VIP usually returns about 50% on top of what you paid for it not including tradebars. With tradebars you can easily double what you put into VIP. Most lockbox rewards are worth ~12k -50k and you'll average around 5-10 tradebars. So you should easily be making ~25k per key over all. With the current exchange rate that means that you're looking at around 330k to buy VIP and around 750k from selling what you get from it.

So if your problem is that you bought it with cash well, don't buy it with cash. Farm some AD and buy it with zen from the zen exchange. Then just renew it month to month.

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mlcxs

urabask said:

zenbarrri said:

Why are we receiving rewards from lockbox's that we are either paying for keys for or through vip rewards opening a daily box where in the end we most likely receive an item that is not usuable to our class. This should be an item that is useul or needed, not some random item that may or may not be usable. And "you can turn them in for AD is not an acceptable answer, your paying ALOT of money for those few AD.."

Just sell the whatever you get from the lockbox. VIP usually returns about 50% on top of what you paid for it not including tradebars. With tradebars you can easily double what you put into VIP. Most lockbox rewards are worth ~12k -50k and you'll average around 5-10 tradebars. So you should easily be making ~25k per key over all. With the current exchange rate that means that you're looking at around 330k to buy VIP and around 750k from selling what you get from it.

So if your problem is that you bought it with cash well, don't buy it with cash. Farm some AD and buy it with zen from the zen exchange. Then just renew it month to month.

let me just ad if you are going to spend money buy the stuff you want directly if you are gonna gamble you cant complain its like the casino they dont close because the house allways end winning...

got several friends with lucky drops so the drops are there... since i win a snail like 2 months ago not even one good drop and i dont complain about the rng, the state fo the economy its the main point not the rng or the drops from lockboxes..

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bioshrike

The only item that really ticks me off is the symbol of the cults, or whatever it's called - at the very least, it should provide some actual utility, if it's going to take up a potion slot - or perhaps it could be applied to a piece of gear like a dye, and play the animation when certain criteria are met - perhaps when idle, it could apply a temporary color based upon the element that gets triggered, in addition to playing the associated animation from the item itself.

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cl1mh4224rd

defiantone99 said:

The other day I saw one guy win 2 Axebeaks from the Howling box, then the artifact, mount, and companion packs from the new box. I think some people just know how to play the system. The rest of us get Companion Fortification Kits.

Lots of keys is how these people "play the system". This person could have opened up 100 lockboxes in between each major reward.

santralafax

I don't mind not geting big prizes regularly, but a little more variation than Trove of Elements--Companion fort--Companion Fort-Ensorcelled Arsenal==Professions would be nice.

I only keep runestones on one companion.....

rayrdan

Dont open new lockboxes

adinosii

Are there any statistics on which lockbox gives the best average expected return?

urabask

adinosii said:

Are there any statistics on which lockbox gives the best average expected return?

I'm opening Howling Hatred atm. The main thing seperating some boxes from others are the resonators or the new enchantment boxes because you have something worth ~45k AD in a rare slot. Then they have all the same junk. But at the top tier you're looking at some price decreases on older stuff because of the tradebar rework. So if you do get a Thayan Book of the Dead or something it's worse a lot less than an Axe Beak.

santralafax said:

I don't mind not geting big prizes regularly, but a little more variation than Trove of Elements--Companion fort--Companion Fort-Ensorcelled Arsenal==Professions would be nice.

I only keep runestones on one companion.....

Wish they'd replace or improve the Arsenal and Trove. They're junk that's worth about the same as a fortification kit despite supposedly being in a higher reward tier.

bioshrike

Wish they'd replace or improve the Arsenal and Trove. They're junk that's worth about the same as a fortification kit despite supposedly being in a higher reward tier.

That's the issue for me - the Trove of Elemental Evil is categorized as a purple-quality item, but the majority of the time, you just get a crappy weapon transmute. IMO, a purple-tier reward should *always* yield a purple-quality item.

kreatyve

Keys are, and always have been, a gamble. Currently the worst thing you can get with a lockbox key is a Trove that contains an Emblem of the Cults. Basically no value at all. You have to decide if the risk outweighs the reward.

zukn75

All I want is for a box containing an emblem to make a "Wah wah waaaaah" sound when I open it

wylonus

i would say Demonforge boxes is the all time worst of all,

lack of diamond idols, lack of profession access packages, lack of companion upgrade tokens, more of same lack of imagination of reward list, all we keep getting are those overflooded ensorcelleds, cheap trick Embelms of elemental, eccessive amount of outdated prizes,

getting T-bars is nice to get, and some elemental pets but that will be soon unwanted, blue items for mimic fodder, too many of us get screwed by "purple" congratualtions when we get low ends several times over, and it too rare to get legendary. i have open and got too many jewelist crafters, and not one black ice crafting gauntlets yet.

those Eblembs of Cult got to be forciablity retiring offically and place in gift master in PE, devs, i know you still ingoring, because no one want them.

santralafax

kreatyve said:

Keys are, and always have been, a gamble. Currently the worst thing you can get with a lockbox key is a Trove that contains an Emblem of the Cults. Basically no value at all. You have to decide if the risk outweighs the reward.

But why is it purple and play a little music for you? Pretty sorry dev joke.

icyclass

kalindra said:

...but it really would be nice if the team could at least affort at least one dev who knows his way around RNGs.

mynaam

icyclass said:

kalindra said:

...but it really would be nice if the team could at least affort at least one dev who knows his way around RNGs.

That's classic ..... +1