So had a run in with a premade last night, I had 4/5 on my team my guild mates. We knew by these enemy players they were good, really good, like around if not page one good. So our pally and I decide to run full protector/buff for the Domination match to ensure we fight on and give them some trouble for the mismatch. Mind you skipping ahead we lost by over double our score and here is why. My group was called out in chat as glitchers by numerous enemy players, bubbles can sometimes cause some lag, especially with reflecting damage. One of them whom USED to be a fellow guildmate decided to join our party during the match as he still plays with a "select" few of us. The express of butt hurt was enormous; we were called trash, scrubs, threatening to report all of us in the match that they can win with batting an eye. So what I did was stand there, just sit there and let them win handily because as stated about the original problem above all it takes is one salty player to get someone banned over B.S. I let him have a large piece of my mind until he ultimately left the party. The whole "I am going to report you" as he stated HAMSTER over your precious leaderboard status is absurd. Grow a pair, be a man. I want to play the game as much as anyone so a ban over nothing is not what I want to risk. He then proceeds to tell us he has allegedly reported dozens if not more players over things he disapproves of. So when did this game become player moderated? When did any other player get to decide my destiny or anyone else's in this game? Well? I bowed out and chose not to even participate with the almighty butt hurt wallet warrior immortal gods of Neverwinter F2P MMO RPG for PC and XBOX One. Mind you I was running Knights Valor.....OHHHH MY GOD I was not trying to kill the immortals just stand on nodes! Game breaking stuff I know!? How Dare I stand next to them with all their glimmer and shiny toys. If this is how you have to live your life and treat others over video games then sir you are indeed the TRASH. Well Page "1" boys you win...
Guardian Fighter: SM Conqueror
[]Full Metal Witch[] 4149 TiL Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best" "Nobody does it better" #TLO BiS
I was in said game last night. I was not the one who joined party, but you guys intenionally run that premade consistently. You run knights valor intenionally to glitch melt teams. I can avoid attacking you, but if you hit me and I reflect damage while running away, my health goes to 0 simply because you're intentionally exploiting a known issue.
I would not report you for it mind you, but it's an exploit, and the lag makes domination absolutely unbearable. I don't understand how dropping everyone to 1-2 fps is fun for anyone. Keep trying to justify it though.
Your health to zero with that team composition is so laughable. The best healer whom is untouchable; in the game on your side and your health? You guys only worry about an imaginary status a "PAGE." How about you show some supporting pages found on the forums, supporting known bugs from player experiences and not the opinions of the few and the mighty. What was used is what was given to use while leveling up in game. Being called "glitchers?" Does being rooted till death mean all HR's are scrubs? Is the invisible rouge being unfair? The untouchable paladins regardless of slot unfair? The match was won before it started and it got pushed in a direction that set me off. Why don't "you" have the developers address the FPS because I see issues of FPS in all game modes if this is so backbreaking for you to endure for an 8 minute match.
Guardian Fighter: SM Conqueror
[]Full Metal Witch[] 4149 TiL Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best" "Nobody does it better" #TLO BiS
I really hope those lengthy walls of text aren't your attempt at justifying using KV with a pally. You know damn well you're not redirecting damage to yourself you're exploiting a glitch which causes KV to reflect an endless damage loop, this is in the mod8 patch notes and is fixed on PC. So if you continue to run it to cause lag for wins, you and your team deserved the bans they got.
LGPG Leader Indy - XB1 & PS4 - GF xeV Indy - PS4 - TR Nde - XB1 - HR GT: its indy time PSN: itsindytime Twitch: indygoinlive The Kanye West of Neverwinter
@indylol The 1% has spoken and so it shall be nevermore. Glad you BiS stick up for one another and not the average players whom drool may tarnish your armor. Happy hunting.
Guardian Fighter: SM Conqueror
[]Full Metal Witch[] 4149 TiL Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best" "Nobody does it better" #TLO BiS
you took me to 25% in under a few seconds simply from activating my bastion shield and starting the endless loop of reflect damage. Not from bullcharge or anvil, but from using a broken reflect exploit. That's why you run two Paladins and yourself. If you truly want to pvp as a gf, there's a spec and build that wrecks without even considering knights valor.
Also, I never called you or your teammates scrubs, so I'm not sure why you're implying I did. I thought it was lame, mainly due to the lag more than the reflect damage itself, but never said anything of the sort. Is it nice to be on page 1? Sure. Do I care? Not really. I pvp with a bunch of people. Hence why I'm on page 100+ currently.
Listen, I'm over it. I was really fired up this AM when that who will not be named decided to come over and bash on his former guild. I do not take this game seriously as I play for fun with a great group of people. Just something just ate at me over it. If the overpowered vs. the frail is what needs to happen then that is what will happen. For the record I slot ITF, Bull and Anvil based on watching videos by Rolltide a beast of a GF. This is not a consistent thing as you stated above as I far prefer an anvil cracked skull any match to standing there shield up.
Guardian Fighter: SM Conqueror
[]Full Metal Witch[] 4149 TiL Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best" "Nobody does it better" #TLO BiS
Gear level and fair play have nothing to do with eachother. Id call out any top level gwf or sw abusing their glitchs in pvp just the same. Hell even my co-gm's alt CW is on page 1 and its not due to gear, its comp and playstyle. And trying to lump everyone with good gear together is pretty absurd too since theres a clear difference between someone at 3400 and 4200 but we must all be pay2wins just the same right..
LGPG Leader Indy - XB1 & PS4 - GF xeV Indy - PS4 - TR Nde - XB1 - HR GT: its indy time PSN: itsindytime Twitch: indygoinlive The Kanye West of Neverwinter
I have moved on to 2x RP and the quest for all rank 9 enchants a few legendary artifacts and equipment. And achieving greater bonding runestones. Good luck to you all.
Guardian Fighter: SM Conqueror
[]Full Metal Witch[] 4149 TiL Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best" "Nobody does it better" #TLO BiS
if u never say anything back to someone and don't have a offensive way or abuse any glitch in the game u wouldn't get a ban keep that in mind sometimes its beter to eat peoples bull (____) then to talk back to it u just cause urselve problems then
I understand the frustration of fighting bubble pallys, gift of faiths, haste, etc. But sadly they are mechanics the game created (yes, the game would be a lot more fun if gift of faith, haste, and bubble wered nerfed or removed from pvp). But as broken as it is, I don't think those can be compared to a glitch that instantly kill people. One thing is using a broken mechanic to win, another thing is to exploit a glitch to win...
NW will ban and/or suspend those who exploit content that NW themselves have accidental put into the game. Mod 5 it was when they gave us unlimited respec tokens. Those who took too many were suspended for 3-7 days, mattering on how many they took. When mod 6 dropped and CW's were using Oppressive Force to lock everyone's console up. Those people also received a ban or suspension because they knew it would lock up the console and they did it anyway. Each of these issues were resolved in a patch so no one could use the unintended exploit.
The OP/GF damage loop is an exploit, such as in the historical context of this game, is going to be fixed in a future patch note for XBox and has been fixed on PC. If a known exploit is used by a player or players NW has the and an mutually agreed upon right to suspend/ban a player for using such exploit in the game that they are heavily monitoring.
Oathbound Paladin
Oath of Protection: Divine Protector: No longer causes a damage loop when used in conjunction with a Guardian Fighter's Knight's Valor.
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Do not use exploits or anything that is against the agreement that we all agreed to. When you do you have to take the suspension and move on.
When everything is fixed, then that combo can be used. Oppressive force doesn't crash people's games anymore so it isn't an exploit. On PC OP/GF cannot create an infinite "damage loop" so they can use it and we cannot for it causes an exploit on xbox. Simple
Lastly, if there was no noticed received on why there is a suspension, make sure that the xbox account and the cryptic account are linked together or they are unable to give a reason for the user had not linked the two accounts together.
glad that cryptic is taking the time to fix the exploit but there's way too many exploits in this game and as i said it b4, there'll b ppl use the exploit just to get the kill as they want to feel superior n feeding their ego and they don't give a HAMSTER about playing fair =(
@shoukon, is there any info on when they will resolve the issue with some paladins and warlocks bargain?
The PC patch notes are our future. Anything PC gets/has we will and I haven't looked through all of them fully to see if that was also fixed. I'll get on PC and ask/look.
glad that cryptic is taking the time to fix the exploit but there's way too many exploits in this game and as i said it b4, there'll b ppl use the exploit just to get the kill as they want to feel superior n feeding their ego and they don't give a HAMSTER about playing fair =(
Report the exploit to Cryptic, not on the forums, and it helps them see how many people are using the exploit which probably helps determine which ones they fix first. And when people use them report them and they do get suspended.
glad that cryptic is taking the time to fix the exploit but there's way too many exploits in this game and as i said it b4, there'll b ppl use the exploit just to get the kill as they want to feel superior n feeding their ego and they don't give a HAMSTER about playing fair =(
Report the exploit to Cryptic, not on the forums, and it helps them see how many people are using the exploit which probably helps determine which ones they fix first. And when people use them report them and they do get suspended.
already did, i hope they r not gonna use the exploit which i'm crossing my fingers on, now i don't give a hoot bout those players that exploit even in the good pvp guild, if i killed them, i will dance around them just to p*ss them off for using the exploit against me. which i already did yesterday to some from a couple of gamers in the top pvp guild
Knight valor + pally and all its class feature causes a damage loop you cannot escape. Sometimes it causes you to be killed in half a second or less. If you got banned for that.. Well im sorry for you but exploiting is not exactly allowed. Said so cryptic never bans for this sort of things. Never. I guess its something microsoft related they cant do much about it
lol one of the guilds tried that on us, and we beat them silly with our 5 man rainbow.
Might work on pugs, or those who do not know how to play the game, but I can 100% promise you, if you get the evening 5 man Asylum premade and run that comp as stated, you're gonna get smashed right back to the camp fire sir because that's an easy win for us if we catch anyone trying to run that.
lol one of the guilds tried that on us, and we beat them silly with our 5 man rainbow.
Might work on pugs, or those who do not know how to play the game, but I can 100% promise you, if you get the evening 5 man Asylum premade and run that comp as stated, you're gonna get smashed right back to the camp fire sir because that's an easy win for us if we catch anyone trying to run that.
I am glad you 100% promise things. Rainbows are cool what ever the hell you are referencing? I am also glad you like to win matches, don't we all. I have ran into quite a few Asylum evening groups and you all are quite good. BTW that GIF is hilarious. Indy is right the infinite damage loop is abolished in Mod 8 from what I saw. I have also seen this tactic used against me as well. It is a odd way to play and can melt severely under geared people. This honestly did join a long list of changes need for PvP. I encourage you to look up my stats in PvP and see where I am merely an average played page 290's? and nothing special about me or my stats. Thanks for calling me Sir that was very professional.
Guardian Fighter: SM Conqueror
[]Full Metal Witch[] 4149 TiL Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best" "Nobody does it better" #TLO BiS
soon there will no longer be that glitch so u wont have to worry + the new glpyhs if people aren't lazy it wont even be possible to do it give it a month I promise everyone that uses that glitch will be a laughing matter soon no offence if ur the one using the glitch or broken content but u'll never get that good if u count on one tatic theres people out there that don't need to use a glitch of any sort to smash on people and I can tell u this the more u are lazy and reuse things the less u learn and the more people will get beter then u so don't be lazy learn to adapt :-) out play ur opponent out smart them
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[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS
I would not report you for it mind you, but it's an exploit, and the lag makes domination absolutely unbearable. I don't understand how dropping everyone to 1-2 fps is fun for anyone. Keep trying to justify it though.
Xerxes - GWF
Eazy - DC
Tyrian - TR
[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS
I really hope those lengthy walls of text aren't your attempt at justifying using KV with a pally. You know damn well you're not redirecting damage to yourself you're exploiting a glitch which causes KV to reflect an endless damage loop, this is in the mod8 patch notes and is fixed on PC. So if you continue to run it to cause lag for wins, you and your team deserved the bans they got.
Indy - XB1 & PS4 - GF
xeV Indy - PS4 - TR
Nde - XB1 - HR
GT: its indy time
PSN: itsindytime
Twitch: indygoinlive
The Kanye West of Neverwinter
The 1% has spoken and so it shall be nevermore. Glad you BiS stick up for one another and not the average players whom drool may tarnish your armor. Happy hunting.
[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS
Also, I never called you or your teammates scrubs, so I'm not sure why you're implying I did. I thought it was lame, mainly due to the lag more than the reflect damage itself, but never said anything of the sort. Is it nice to be on page 1? Sure. Do I care? Not really. I pvp with a bunch of people. Hence why I'm on page 100+ currently.
Xerxes - GWF
Eazy - DC
Tyrian - TR
[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS
Gear level and fair play have nothing to do with eachother. Id call out any top level gwf or sw abusing their glitchs in pvp just the same. Hell even my co-gm's alt CW is on page 1 and its not due to gear, its comp and playstyle. And trying to lump everyone with good gear together is pretty absurd too since theres a clear difference between someone at 3400 and 4200 but we must all be pay2wins just the same right..
Indy - XB1 & PS4 - GF
xeV Indy - PS4 - TR
Nde - XB1 - HR
GT: its indy time
PSN: itsindytime
Twitch: indygoinlive
The Kanye West of Neverwinter
Unleash The Wolves- HR Lvl 70 (PVE)
<font color="Aquamarine">"Non-Pay-To-Win"</font>
I hunt GWF "Magik" on sight.
[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS
[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS
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[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS
The OP/GF damage loop is an exploit, such as in the historical context of this game, is going to be fixed in a future patch note for XBox and has been fixed on PC. If a known exploit is used by a player or players NW has the and an mutually agreed upon right to suspend/ban a player for using such exploit in the game that they are heavily monitoring.
Oathbound Paladin
Oath of Protection: Divine Protector: No longer causes a damage loop when used in conjunction with a Guardian Fighter's Knight's Valor.
Reference: http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/9656773-patch-notes:-underdark
If a player, in this instance uses an exploit in game no matter what the excuse is, the following, agreed upon, consequences can occur at the whim of Cryptic.
12. Data Collected To Prevent Cheating And Unauthorized Software
12.1You understand and agree that when user our Service and/or run our Game software, this can and may involve software functions designed to detect cheating or unauthorized and malicious programs. In this context, we may access, collect, monitor and/or remotely store screenshots of game play, information relating to hardware capacity, modifications related to our Game software, signatures, profiles or names of known unauthorized or malicious third party programs, files or processes that enable or facilitate cheating, unfair advantage or hacking of the Games or Service. If unauthorized or malicious programs are detected, the Game software may also communicate to us the users account and User ID and information about the unauthorized or malicious program or its use.
15. User Conduct
h. impede or disrupt the Service or the normal flow of game play or dialogue in the Game or in Interactive Areas (defined below) in the Service or use vulgar language, abusiveness, use of excessive shouting (ALL CAPS), “spamming” or any other disruptive or detrimental methods in an attempt to disturb other users or our employees;
k. cheat or utilize unauthorized exploits in connection with the Games or the Service;
l. using or exploiting any bugs, errors, or design flaws to obtain unauthorized access to the Service or to gain an unfair advantage over other players;
n. take any action that disrupts the Service or that negatively affects or may prohibit other users from enjoying the Website, the Games or any other aspect of the Service.
18. Repeat infringer Policy
18.1In accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and other applicable law, we have adopted a policy of terminating, in appropriate circumstances and at our sole discretion, subscribers or account holders who are deemed to be repeat infringers. We may also at its sole discretion limit access to the Service and/or terminate the Accounts of any users who infringe any intellectual property rights of others, whether or not there is any repeat infringement.
26. Disciplinary Action / Account & Service Termination
26.1FOR ANY REASON WE MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, BLOCK ACCESS TO OR DELETE THE SERVICE OR ANY ACCOUNT OR PART THEREOF, BY GIVING YOU NOTICE OF SUCH WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD SPECIFIED WHEN YOU CREATED AN ACCOUNT OR JOINED A SERVICE, OR IF NO SUCH TIME PERIOD WAS SPECIFIED, THEN WITHIN THIRTY (30) DAYS OF THE DATE SUCH NOTICE IS PROVIDED TO YOU BY EMAIL OR IS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE OR INTERACTIVE AREA BY US.
Reference: http://www.arcgames.com/en/about/terms
Do not use exploits or anything that is against the agreement that we all agreed to. When you do you have to take the suspension and move on.
When everything is fixed, then that combo can be used. Oppressive force doesn't crash people's games anymore so it isn't an exploit. On PC OP/GF cannot create an infinite "damage loop" so they can use it and we cannot for it causes an exploit on xbox. Simple
Lastly, if there was no noticed received on why there is a suspension, make sure that the xbox account and the cryptic account are linked together or they are unable to give a reason for the user had not linked the two accounts together.
[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS
Character:
7thS1n---Trickster Rouge LV 70(perma-Stun build)
7ThH3AL3R-- Devoted Cleric LV 70 (Divine Oracle Haste/DPS build)
7ThM4G3-- Control Wizard
7ThW4rL0CK-- Scrooge Warlock
7THW4R--Great Weapon Fighter
Character:
7thS1n---Trickster Rouge LV 70(perma-Stun build)
7ThH3AL3R-- Devoted Cleric LV 70 (Divine Oracle Haste/DPS build)
7ThM4G3-- Control Wizard
7ThW4rL0CK-- Scrooge Warlock
7THW4R--Great Weapon Fighter
If you got banned for that.. Well im sorry for you but exploiting is not exactly allowed.
Said so cryptic never bans for this sort of things. Never. I guess its something microsoft related they cant do much about it
Might work on pugs, or those who do not know how to play the game, but I can 100% promise you, if you get the evening 5 man Asylum premade and run that comp as stated, you're gonna get smashed right back to the camp fire sir because that's an easy win for us if we catch anyone trying to run that.
opalsunsParagon Gaming
Indy is right the infinite damage loop is abolished in Mod 8 from what I saw. I have also seen this tactic used against me as well. It is a odd way to play and can melt severely under geared people. This honestly did join a long list of changes need for PvP. I encourage you to look up my stats in PvP and see where I am merely an average played page 290's? and nothing special about me or my stats. Thanks for calling me Sir that was very professional.
[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS