lightning chain gun stormcallers egwd final boss

cellablock

i find it odd that doing egwd the storm caller in final boss shoot lightning like a railgun one shot at every turn, anyone else thinks it need to tone down a bit for i was pretty much running from them all the time btw i am a 2.5k gwf

theoddis1

watch for the sparks the red area actually tuns with him afer the attack and it kinda messes with you they really need to fix it but yea dodge the first red line and then ignore it when it moves again they go big aoe, line, big aoe, line nback and forth like that and you just run out on the big aoe and just a little sidestep for the line attack that should save you some sprint also the line attack can be interuppted by a prone or CC if you have one front line surge for IV or takedown I just use one point in flanking manuvers (insigator feat)and WMS

I know a lot of people feel like I am soooo stupid for getting flanking manuvers because "the prone is only 1.2 seconds" or "you should have went powerful challenge you are losing 15% damage to maked targets" well I am not even gonna get into the fact that unless you have your crit at 100% buffed then 5% crit and 5% damage (vicious advantage) is worth more to you than a flat 15% damage on marked targets becuse if you are a gwf and you dont have combat advantage at least 90% of the time you are doing it wrong
anyways flanking maneuvers prone is a good intterupt and hepls with the stormcallers

zekethesinner

U probably dont understand bug u r encountering, its not like they r shooting at u all the time, its just red zone that atk creates buggs and dont disappear after atk is executed. That said u may chose ur tanks more carefully, good one can use those stormcallers for his adventage (aka crazy fast ap gain) and they should be dealing with those stormcallers.

@theoddis1 U r right, in pve flanking is much better as utility, coz of sheer interuption it provides, and i personly just like it, but pure 15% dmg boost powerfull challenge provides always will be better (in both cases u need to have ur target marked anyway). In big simplification (scaling ur base dmg to 100) its: 100+5+(5% x 105) vs 100+15 so: 110.25 vs 115, challenge wins however u look at it.

But this topic is not about that, right?

(Sin)cerely
Kain

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suicidalgodot

...also, you can use Geas, Imprisonment, or Banishment on them, IIRC.

plasticbat

The stormcaller did not give me much trouble when my GWF was 2.5. I did avoid red. Probably, I had a good party and good life steal (8% back then).

theoddis1

zekethesinner said:

U probably dont understand bug u r encountering, its not like they r shooting at u all the time, its just red zone that atk creates buggs and dont disappear after atk is executed. That said u may chose ur tanks more carefully, good one can use those stormcallers for his adventage (aka crazy fast ap gain) and they should be dealing with those stormcallers.

@theoddis1 U r right, in pve flanking is much better as utility, coz of sheer interuption it provides, and i personly just like it, but pure 15% dmg boost powerfull challenge provides always will be better (in both cases u need to have ur target marked anyway). In big simplification (scaling ur base dmg to 100) its: 100+5+(5% x 105) vs 100+15 so: 110.25 vs 115, challenge wins however u look at it.

But this topic is not about that, right?

(Sin)cerely
Kain

oh no if you are BiS yea PC is way better but you forgot to add crit sev onto the damage plus more crit more lostmaouth set procs but honestly its so close that nether is going to be a game changer

it would be more like 100+5% damage +5% crit + lostmauth proc vs 100+15% damage but thats really just spliting hairs

cellablock

here are my stats

zekethesinner

theoddis1 said:

oh no if you are BiS yea PC is way better but you forgot to add crit sev onto the damage plus more crit more lostmaouth set procs but honestly its so close that nether is going to be a game changer

it would be more like 100+5% damage +5% crit + lostmauth proc vs 100+15% damage but thats really just spliting hairs

I assumed 100% crit sev to make it easyer to calculate, tho if u want more specific:

100+5+ critsev*(5% x 105) vs 100+15

Max crit sev u can get is 175% iirc, but its much more bis than anything else (p vorp +. erynia, magus, dancing blade, all 3 t5 boons from tyranny into crit sev + IWD one + 90% base).

With maxed out crit sev its:

100+5+1.75x(5% x105)= 114.1875

Its close, but show me how many 2.5k il gwfs have purple erynias, purple dancing blade, all tyranny boons and magus (gl with this one ). ;p

Even if they would do, vicious still loses. by small amount, but still. And that best case scenario.

As i have said, i like it, i use it. But its not bis, just utility from flanking feels more helpfull when it interupts.

(Sin)cerely
Kain

zekethesinner

@cellablock

All i can say to u is: when stormcaller is rly about to hit, his red zone is loced in place. But when its bugged and he has aggro on some1 he will turning after that one he has aggro on and red zone will be turning around with him. Then u know its bugged and u dont need to bother. When it gets locked again in 1 direction. Then make sure u r not in the way.

And again. Tank should make sure stormcallers r on him. Or just u need to kill them rly fast.

(Sin)cerely
Kain

cellablock

zekethesinner said:

@cellablock

All i can say to u is: when stormcaller is rly about to hit, his red zone is loced in place. But when its bugged and he has aggro on some1 he will turning after that one he has aggro on and red zone will be turning around with him. Then u know its bugged and u dont need to bother. When it gets locked again in 1 direction. Then make sure u r not in the way.

And again. Tank should make sure stormcallers r on him. Or just u need to kill them rly fast.

(Sin)cerely
Kain

thanks for the heads up