andorrabellMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 437Arc User
I agree that it would be nice to add something to T2- given the coffer issue I think changing the salvaging amounts is not a good idea, but random rare drops like T1 would make sense and be welcome.
Please also bring back more dungeons or look at playability of ECC/EGWD for a regular group.
plz don't complain... knowing craptic they would halve the salvage of blue itens...
Good point.
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silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
well in addition .. Ive stated many, many times that stronghold donation levels are too high as well, you shouldnt have to give salvage items to them at all, they should be reduced to just getting regular junk blues and purchased ones would be enough.
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darkstarcrashMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,382Arc User
The last time my guild needed salvage, I literally bought.. like 80 blues and dumped them in (at around 500 apiece, so that was around 40k in ad.. from my memory they are around 200 apiece.. 16k in salvage give or take. If purples were linear in nature, they should be giving 6k and 10k as a minimum in salvage return, say you get 1 rink, one armor.. you would make 12k+ as a minimum per run.. so less then 4 runs you could buy that many blues.
Your math is off by a factor of 10. Blue gear counts for 20 points when donated, so you spent 40k ad for 1600 salvage points.
If you ran just one T2 and got a drop off a boss and one in the chest that is 1620 salvage points -- and if you salvaged those epic drops you would have only gotten 6k-11k AD (from 2 rings to 2 chest armors).
So, again, run T1s and use elemental seals to salvage for AD, run T2s and use protector's seals for Surplus Equipment donations.
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silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
Ok.. fine dont change the salvage price.. but then offer something else.. there has to be a reason to farm these outside of salvage.. if you run dragonflight every day, I end up with a salvage voucher at least 1/4 the time anyways..
(plus a million labor , wood and stone ones that I have to destroy)
Im just saying there has to be something to make them more valuable, because im not going to farm them just for coffer salvage , other then when my guild needs it.
BTW its disgusting to me that 80 non stack-able blues were only worth 1600 salvage as well. Totally different conversation really.
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plasticbatMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 12,400Arc User
T2 gives both elemental seal and protector's seal. T2 cheap epic loot (e.g. ring and belt) to coffer (810 each for Surplus Equipment donations). Chest piece for AD. T1 gives elemental seal. Blue gear for AD.
T2 rewards more although it is harder.
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silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
oh sheesh.
No matter whats typed, you are fine with the situation as is.. fine. Alot of us are not.. there is no such thing as random farming t2s just popping up over and over, outside of gearing up or when the coffer needs a immediate in flush of salvage.
Can you honestly tell me that you dont want some more unique rewards in T2s? something we can farm?
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thefabricantMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 5,248Arc User
No matter whats typed, you are fine with the situation as is.. fine. Alot of us are not.. there is no such thing as random farming t2s just popping up over and over, outside of gearing up or when the coffer needs a immediate in flush of salvage.
Can you honestly tell me that you dont want some more unique rewards in T2s? something we can farm?
Leave him, hes trolling. There is seriously no risk vs reward for t2's, firstly, there is little risk, secondly, there is no reward. T2's are longer then T1's and there is nothing in them once you got your t2 gear that makes them worth running. Yes, you get protectors seals, but so what, in lostmauth you get a horn. If I gave you the ultimatum, never have any loot from lostmauth or never have any t2 loot, you would drop your t2 loot in an instant, simply because the horn is so darn good. I would rather lose like 1% stats from not wearing t2 gear then give up the opportunity of having the horn and furthermore, if you are going to farm, would you rather farm t1's (elol) where you can get breyer's, greater dragon glyphs, the horn, the cloak, the belt and t1 gear, or would you rather farm a t2 which can drop seals as well as occasional t2 gear that is worth the same as t1 gear.
If you were to move that salvage trash between chars, salvage it, then use the AD to buy blue stuff to donate to the coffers, the AD would buy more stuff to donate then donating a piece of t2 gear would and since there is no better reward for salvaging a piece of t2 gear over a piece of t1 gear, you might as well just run t1's and salvage the gear. Before mod 6, every t2 drop gave you twice the salvage value of their t1 counterparts. This made sense as you were risking more and you got better rewards. This should be the way it is done now as well, because there is logic behind it.
At the end of the day, the only time I run t2's is to either have a break from farming elol (this is no replacement for CN AT ALL!!!) or to help out a friend who needs t2 seals. There is something wrong with a dungeons and dragons game that does not motivate people to play through its dungeons, where as its supposed to be something exciting.
No matter whats typed, you are fine with the situation as is.. fine. Alot of us are not.. there is no such thing as random farming t2s just popping up over and over, outside of gearing up or when the coffer needs a immediate in flush of salvage.
Can you honestly tell me that you dont want some more unique rewards in T2s? something we can farm?
I always want everything better. It does not matter if it is T1 or T2 or T0.
At the moment, for me, T1 and T2 are farmed for AD except cheap epic ring and belt are for the coffer. Unless that category of the coffer are max'ed out, at the moment, it is never enough.
ATM, I have more incentive to go for T2 because it is better rewarding than T1. More seal -> more Account bound gear -> more refined AD (after passing that to alt). I run T2 2 to 3 times per day. If it is not for farming for AD and coffer, I won't be there.
Again, let me repeat: I always want everything better. It does not matter if it is T1 or T2 or T0. For me, farming T2 is better than farming T1.
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Please also bring back more dungeons or look at playability of ECC/EGWD for a regular group.
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If you ran just one T2 and got a drop off a boss and one in the chest that is 1620 salvage points -- and if you salvaged those epic drops you would have only gotten 6k-11k AD (from 2 rings to 2 chest armors).
So, again, run T1s and use elemental seals to salvage for AD, run T2s and use protector's seals for Surplus Equipment donations.
(plus a million labor , wood and stone ones that I have to destroy)
Im just saying there has to be something to make them more valuable, because im not going to farm them just for coffer salvage , other then when my guild needs it.
BTW its disgusting to me that 80 non stack-able blues were only worth 1600 salvage as well. Totally different conversation really.
T1 gives elemental seal. Blue gear for AD.
T2 rewards more although it is harder.
No matter whats typed, you are fine with the situation as is.. fine. Alot of us are not.. there is no such thing as random farming t2s just popping up over and over, outside of gearing up or when the coffer needs a immediate in flush of salvage.
Can you honestly tell me that you dont want some more unique rewards in T2s? something we can farm?
If you were to move that salvage trash between chars, salvage it, then use the AD to buy blue stuff to donate to the coffers, the AD would buy more stuff to donate then donating a piece of t2 gear would and since there is no better reward for salvaging a piece of t2 gear over a piece of t1 gear, you might as well just run t1's and salvage the gear. Before mod 6, every t2 drop gave you twice the salvage value of their t1 counterparts. This made sense as you were risking more and you got better rewards. This should be the way it is done now as well, because there is logic behind it.
At the end of the day, the only time I run t2's is to either have a break from farming elol (this is no replacement for CN AT ALL!!!) or to help out a friend who needs t2 seals. There is something wrong with a dungeons and dragons game that does not motivate people to play through its dungeons, where as its supposed to be something exciting.
At the moment, for me, T1 and T2 are farmed for AD except cheap epic ring and belt are for the coffer.
Unless that category of the coffer are max'ed out, at the moment, it is never enough.
ATM, I have more incentive to go for T2 because it is better rewarding than T1.
More seal -> more Account bound gear -> more refined AD (after passing that to alt).
I run T2 2 to 3 times per day. If it is not for farming for AD and coffer, I won't be there.
Again, let me repeat: I always want everything better. It does not matter if it is T1 or T2 or T0.
For me, farming T2 is better than farming T1.