Dragon's hoard enchantment

nikolaos06

Does the ability of the Dragon's hoard enchantment really work?

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banaanc

yes it does, but only for some time, they added some stupid anti bot measure, that switches them off after certain time, also they have some 30sec internal cooldown, increased to 2min in foundry

dsn1118

Drops are working pretty good for me except that 2 hour time limit thingy.I got 2 sapphires bunch of peridots,green resonance stones in 30 mins of play time.It seems you need to kill the mobs in groups and with some proper DPS.

instynctive

Wow.. you guys are COMPLAINING about those drops?

Sheesh.

vattara

[quote]It seems you need to kill the mobs in groups and with some proper DPS. [/quote]
Not very fortunate for Clerics.

wylonus

with rank 8 and 9, we need more than 600k/1 million each, and we been getting some rank 4's that only gives 180 pts, and grey drops worth 500 pts, rarely we get green/blue drops, way too slow.
rarely rank 5, only gives about 540 pts.
it depends who play for hours and some only ran 1-2 quests a day.

mmm1001

Nerfing DH drop was NOT ANTI-BOT MEASURE! It was anti-non-paying customers measure. So it won't be fixed. Get used to it

mrvincent1959

The nerfs to this item was the major reason I lost some trust in this game. The tool tips say nothing about it. It cost me a huge amount to get those.

inyawayupdeep

Was also bad that they changed the way it worked without letting anyone know for a very long period of time allowing players to obtain more of them and refine the ones they had without disclosing they had been tweeked and they never have fully explained the mechanics behind the way they now work, only that there is some sort of cool down period. But we don't don't even know if each of the five enchants you could be using are on individual cool downs or if they all go on cool down at the same time, it's all very sketchy.

theoddis1

I have been getting quite a bit of RP from mine lesser resonance, peridot, sapphires ect and I only have 5% 3 lesser and one regular DH I seem to get a drop about every 2-3 groups of enemies a lot more than after the nerf so I think they may have flipped the switch back

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oliboyph

I don't know if this is true, but after upgrading, my drops shifted to more green resonance and peridots, instead of pearls and white resonance. On the other hand, I have stopped getting black opals, which I usually got about 2 a week with lesser dragon's hoard.

urabask

oliboyph said:

I don't know if this is true, but after upgrading, my drops shifted to more green resonance and peridots, instead of pearls and white resonance. On the other hand, I have stopped getting black opals, which I usually got about 2 a week with lesser dragon's hoard.

Sounds more like just random things being random.

extchickenman

I think they are well worth the investment...and I think Cryptic was quite clear on how they work....
There is a chance you will get drops while they are equiped......there is MORE of a chance if the enchantments are higher level...

That's the thing about chance......its a....well.....chance

I have never gotten a black opal....I've gotten upwards of 20 sapphires since I first got my DHs...and tons of the rest of the stuff....and considering the lack of easy ways to get refinement stuff without getting bent over by the AH...I think DHs are pretty great

feanor70118

Oh, they work, and they used to be a good, effective way to get RP for your artifact gear. Then, in the first of the steadily increasing number of instances in which Cryptic punished legitimate players for advancing their characters while claiming it was in the interest of stopping bots, they limited the drops per day and screwed up the reward table.

Then, of course, they didn't admit it until players had been complaining about it for months. I posted a poll which should that about 90% of those who had any opinion hated the change. After that reaction, the devs promised to 'look into' whether the nerf had gone too far. Then, of course, they did absolutely nothing. Just like they're currently doing nothing about a number of bug fixes, rewriting leadership (which should take no more than a couple of hours), and so on.

The reason it was obvious that the change was never an anti-botting measure was this: Before the change, you had to pick up the stones that dropped from your DHEs, and they would disappear after being left on the ground for a certain time. Also, they were bound to account, so bots couldn't sell them. After the change, drops went into a character's inventory automatically. So, those who had already been botting their RP weren't affected except insofar as they had to spent a while longer maxing out their gear. Those who were playing the game to get their rewards - you know, they way they want players to, as they said when they took the AD out of leadership - were rewarded with frustration and interminable grinds before they could finally have legendary artifact gear.

/rant

oliboyph

extchickenman said:

I think they are well worth the investment...and I think Cryptic was quite clear on how they work....

There is a chance you will get drops while they are equiped......there is MORE of a chance if the enchantments are higher level...



That's the thing about chance......its a....well.....chance



I have never gotten a black opal....I've gotten upwards of 20 sapphires since I first got my DHs...and tons of the rest of the stuff....and considering the lack of easy ways to get refinement stuff without getting bent over by the AH...I think DHs are pretty great

True, in the end they will help you. I got 75% of my refining points from Dragon's hoard drops.

cambo1682

They are still much better than nothing, but they have been subject to several nerfs, first making the drops bound, then increased ICD, then reduced play time. It's still a sore point for me as well. I made 4 regular (2% chance) DH enchants for each of my 8 toons, and despite double RP, the cost to craft them both as reagents, refining and the GMoP's that went into them, the cost was significant. I still use them of course, but they are another 'investment' that has been diminished by a dev team that has absolutely no clue about human nature and what will make players happy to spend money on their game vs. closing their wallets after feeling duped.

feanor70118

extchickenman said:

I think Cryptic was quite clear on how they work....


Really? Saying there's a blanket % chance per kill without telling the player about the ICD or the limits on RP dropped per day is clear? Not telling players about changes to the reward table is clear? Wow, you're Cryptic's ideal customer.

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cesuke

Yes i bought like 800k + my Rank 10 DH sold in 350ish k

psyb3rtr011

Odd, I have all 5 of my current Utility slots filled with 2% & 3% DH's (Total 11%)... I get on average, after only doing my Dailies in SH and the SH Support Quest of the day, about 3-5 White Pearls, 3-5 Peridots, 3-5 Minor Resonance, 1-2 Lesser Resonance, 1-2 Aquamarine, & 1-2 Flawless Sapphires. Oh, and I get about 1 Black Opal a week. Carry that our to a month, and I get around 575K Refinement points a month.

Pretty decent considering I paid nothing for the DH's, and was able to upgrade them through normal play. I will definitely get them all to 5% each when I have the time.

aquemeni1978

575k a month isn't bad at all. What's that, 7+months to fill one piece of artifact gear? During which time two better pieces of artifact gear will have rendered that piece obsolete twice over? Seems legit. Although with a couple of 2x RP weekend you can probably shave that down to a few months per piece.

psyb3rtr011

aquemeni1978 said:

575k a month isn't bad at all. What's that, 7+months to fill one piece of artifact gear? During which time two better pieces of artifact gear will have rendered that piece obsolete twice over? Seems legit. Although with a couple of 2x RP weekend you can probably shave that down to a few months per piece.

If I were ONLY counting on the Dragon Hoard Enchants for stuff, you might have a point. But I, and I doubt, any players do.

It is one piece of the puzzle that is advancing in this game. Along with Crafting (Yep, Leadership still helps with up to 6 Resonance and 9 Thaumaturgic Stones a day, or various power (Lesser, Minor and Normal, per character!), Running Content and Invocation.

Especially when Old Artifacts can be used to upgrade newer ones, when they are released. Not maxed out, but in experience from the previous introduction of new artifacts, up to a Low Epic status, which was better than the old Artifact at Legendary.

End result, get some Velveeta for that Whine!

aquemeni1978

Yeah I realize that, of course. My artifacts and Artifact equipment have been maxed out for a long time. I was just taking a stab at the hilarious fantasy world that you have created in your own mind, in which u find things like 1-2 Flawless Sapphires AND all of that other RP in one day after only doing just stronghold quests and SH support quest. Fantastical fairy tale land. I guess I either need to pray to the RNG gods to get drops like yours, or lower my dragon hoard % by a few points, because I have 14% and do no where near that well.

P.S.....Velveeta and Wine wow. Just threw up.

s1lv3rdrgnforum

DH work fine. I've gotten 3 opals (not a lot but 1 a week isnt unusual for me) 5 flawless sapphires and an upward scaling amount of the rest in the last 2 weeks. I have used a DC as a DH toon .. as well as SW and GWF. GWF is my latest and seems to work well when used doing SH content. Oh, and really sorry for you guys but my DH % is only 4% ..