Oppressive Darkness or Dagger Threat?

chestnut13

As a Sab WK, I've been running AdvPos and OpDark but don't really seem to notice a lot from OpDark. I run with DisHeart and COS in PVP and in PVE same for mobs and use DF for bosses or high hit point baddies. Do you think I would be better off using Dagger Threat instead? Thx. I would have to switch the offhand from AdvPos to DagThreat.

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chestnut13

Hmmm ... how is DagThr bugged? It really seems that as a ranged WK, the extra damage and proc all the time with off hand feat is quite a boost.

cesuke

OD only worth if u dont care killing the other of boredoom (if u dont get bored to death before)

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chestnut13

I am glad you bumped this because I just don't understand and need a better explanation. As a fully ranged WK, Dagger Threat will give me 20% extra damage on EVERY At Will (my offhand is specced for it) as well as for Impact Shot which I use in PVP ... I don't see how Oppressive Darkness can compete with that. I barely notice it as is.

rayrdan

Ye as totally ranged tr oppressive darkness is bad.
When using duelist flurry is not.
In pve is always HAMSTER instead

kweassa

chestnut13 said:

I am glad you bumped this because I just don't understand and need a better explanation. As a fully ranged WK, Dagger Threat will give me 20% extra damage on EVERY At Will (my offhand is specced for it) as well as for Impact Shot which I use in PVP ... I don't see how Oppressive Darkness can compete with that. I barely notice it as is.

It will give you 20% extra damage on EVERY At-Will when you are within 20 feet of the target.

To give you an idea how much 20' is in this game, most melee powers are at default 15' in range. 20' is a distance where you are a hair's width away from the tip of an at-will melee attack a GWF/GF/TR swings at you. In other words, it means Dagger Threat will boost your damage when you are effectively at zero-range, "in your face" situation, at a distance where your throwing arm would probably smack your target on the head before you release.

How often do you throw CoS or ImpactShot at targets such distances? How long do the opponents stay at that distance?

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Conversely, OD itself is not a big damage booster, either. What it does, is synergize specifically with certain WK features to bring forth a situation where you can reliably land melee at-will combos against your target -- specifically being; the target is; (a) dazed and unable to dodge away or retaliate, and (b) slowed. So if you don't use melee at-wills like SF or DF as main mode of attack, OD won't do you much good.

chestnut13

Not so kweassa ... as I mentioned, my offhand is specced for Dagger Threat which procs on any throw regardless of distance. The question is, is it only a 5% increase or does it does it scale? ie .... 1 pt in DT is 5% while 4pts would be 20%? About that, I am unsure.

kweassa

chestnut13 said:

Not so kweassa ... as I mentioned, my offhand is specced for Dagger Threat which procs on any throw regardless of distance. The question is, is it only a 5% increase or does it does it scale? ie .... 1 pt in DT is 5% while 4pts would be 20%? About that, I am unsure.

The augment, literally, does nothing but add a +5% damage increase when the distance is further than 20'. It's completely irrelvant with how many points you put in DT ranks.

Why would you ever think that it works in the manner you think it does?? There's nothing in game that works that way.