Question about elol set for GWF

isaintify1

The set is based off of your weapon damage triggered by critical hit. If I am not mistaken and the base damage should around the same since its based off of your weapon damage.
So my question is, why do I get a proc of 500k damage from the set when I hit a 1.1m hit? Then get a 15k proc from hitting a normal 100k or so. It does not seem to be based off of weapon damage at all just on what you hit alone. I am unsure if this is actually how it works or if this is a bug. (I cannot get the picture I took anymore since it was a week ago) But I am sure others have noticed this. If anyone could please test this out and confirm if the elol set is broken. (I have act but my computer cannot handle the information being processed)

zacazu

lol works like a normal atwill/encounter/daily (or better, a extra attack identical to steel blitz) that have a minimum base of your weapon damage+power bonus (i think) and this things.

like any other power, boosts over you and debuffs over the target will up that damage.

i see the same calculations happens in some powers/feats in the past, so... no, that is not broken. is much strong or even imbalanced.

about the porpotion (1.1m vs 500k and 100k vs 15k) dont exist correspondence between The Lol bonus after differents striker powers. that means, you dont do 1.1k and 100k using the same power OR, i dont know, the boosts of some class have a strange synergy to that power .

rinat114

The procs are affected and are benefited by ampfires such as bonus damage, crit severity, buffs/debuffs, armpen, external buffs from support toons, etc. Hence, the bigger the initial crit is, the bigger the lostmauth proc will get.

[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Indomitable Battle Strike deals 3765142 (2279584) Physical Damage to Traven Blackdagger.
[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Lostmauth's Vengeance deals 398340 (273540) Physical Damage to Traven Blackdagger.

^ This is NOT okay, the sets needs a massive fix and removal of all ampfires.

zacazu

rinat114 said:

Hence, the bigger the initial crit is, the bigger the lostmauth proc will get.

iam not sure (iam not sure if i understand too)... my "max vengence" is aways the same using sure strike or ibs... i will take a look.

something like a bit more than 10% of my exec ibs and +/- 60% a normal sure strike.

i think that works like a independent power. a class feature like steel blitz.

edit: interesting thing. no stacks, mark, nothing (only companions)

[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Sure Strike deals 13310 (12676) Physical Damage to Target Dummy.

[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Lostmauth's Vengeance deals 5981 (5696) Physical Damage to Target Dummy.

[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Indomitable Battle Strike deals 43910 (41819) Physical Damage to Target Dummy.

[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Lostmauth's Vengeance deals 5647 (5378) Physical Damage to Target Dummy.


that lol set just dont take in acount your biggest critical BUT have your own base too xxxx-xxxx (In my head is aways the better value of the sword ).

note: bf up that damage too... lol is calculated like a atwill or encounter

mightyeriksson

I'm in the process of switching over to my GWF, and it seems to me, that even if they nerf/correct the Lostmauth set, it would still be among the best sets for a GWF, or am I mistaken?
(I'm using a high crit build btw)

pando83

Making it flat weapon damage on critical hits means an average 1.5-2k damage added to critical hits, which is more in line with what other sets grant to the user (seldarine, lathander, Valindra's)
For sure it's now greatly overperforming and unbalanced next to T.Feytouched. Which are currently the biggest source of unbalance, separating basically the population between who uses the set and who doesn't.

Let's say at least eLoL set is cheaper, while T.Fey is a 10M expensive toy only for a small part of the population.
But still, it's a game changer and must be fixed to be in line with other enchants.