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A very sad day

candinho2candinho2 Member Posts: 550 Arc User
in The Nine Hells
Today i went for VT run with legit channel guys, all so fine, great run, until i pressed X, and saw that i f. DC was overdpsing me, i was so disapponted, a warlock loosing to a cleric on damage? realy annoying.

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  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    My Righteous DC did more than a templock from legit.

    But of course. People will continue to say SW is fine as it is.....
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    ? Rightous is a DPS path
    Temp lock a supporter
    Whats wrong about that ?
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    schietindebux said:

    ? Rightous is a DPS path

    Temp lock a supporter

    Whats wrong about that ?

    Every other striker and DPS build will have no problem doing more damage than a righteous DC. More importantly, I'm buffing the SW's damage by 50%+. There's no freakin excuse. The SW's base damage is way too low. A templock can't shield allies, it can't do damage, it's heals are practically useless in T2s aside from keeping a tank up.

  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    templock is useless, everyone knows it, hope they find a way to fix
    but comparing a DPS build against a supporterbuild is not the right way
    but in termes of underperformance, there are not many builds/classes that would beat a templock
    btw why do you use this build?
    temp tree has nothing to offer except some mediocre buffs, rightous DC has this crazy capstone - DOT and excellent buffs+aoe encounter, sure he is strong, but can´t compensate a full heal
    full healing builds are not needed any more since they nerfed/fixed the dunegeons this mod, in mod 6 a full heal was needed to do T2 endbosses, except you run with a 3-4k party
    A rightous DC should deal more damage than a temp warlock imo because its the only DPS spec this class has,
    disbalance comes from the lack of heals/buffs from templock and the overbuffing from rightous...

    My Warlock outdamages our 3,4k+rightous DC lots of times, he is far above my GS and legendary at all places, has skill to play and so on
    Warlock is a striker class and should deal same or more damage compared to GWF, that also works as offtank is heavy armored and can just run through mobgroups without effort, GWF is overbuffed atm, especially using lolset
    some andom runs I did this calss deals far too much damage, even a broken class like damnation lock can´t keep pace
    i think normall it should be somthing like this : WL=Hunter>GWF>TR>CW>DC>GF>OP (damagespec)

    so two possible solutions buff damage or give us somthing like an insane CC spell.... "nuclear blast" that throws all enemies to the ground, disable them for 4 seconds and deal a nice aoe damage with a DOT on top (because we are warlocks)

    the core problem warlock class has imo is the fact that it depends on some dailies (TT / broken puppet), so doing some T2 endbosses I can outdamage lots of DPS classes using TT on eTOS boss having high AP gain, same with GWD endboss, this only works bc the adds are spread all over the place and I can deal crazy aoe damage-pingpong from TT
    but the base damage you mentioned is so ugly, you allways feel it going solo
    as so manny player demanded buff base damage at wills encounter and lower TT f.e.


  • candinho2candinho2 Member Posts: 550 Arc User
    I'n fury sw, not temptation, and i was so enraged that i put my fabled set, and got the top dps. but without it, a fury sw does just a little more damage than a op tank spec
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    candinho2 said:

    I'n fury sw, not temptation, and i was so enraged that i put my fabled set, and got the top dps. but without it, a fury sw does just a little more damage than a op tank spec

    what´s is your setup, encounter, critrate, class feature, daily you use?
  • candinho2candinho2 Member Posts: 550 Arc User
    40% crit, WB/DT/SS or killing flames, borrowed time/ Dust to Dust or All consuming curse, immolation spirits/TT, my setup is fine, SW damage isn't.
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    I got 49%crit, only difference is WB, HG DT
    WB, HG + SS at boss
    Never usw KF since long
    AP OL enchants
    AP cloak/lolset
    But I am a Damnationbuild
    Without puppet and spirits my damage is poor
    I was SB fury but switched to Damnation because I was same frustrated as you and thought about focussing on my DC
    also startend leveling a GWF, he is now my farming toon
    Damnation works great in every dungeons all time imo
  • btfdbtfd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Come on guys, I just had a run with 2 other warlocks, all of them were all mythic and all gear legendary. They were using puppet build. With my 2.7k SW fury spec I outdpsd them by being like 3 million above the 2nd place in pain giver on place 1. No fabled or elol set. Warlock is the class where your dps is the most dependent on situation. And build and stats of course.

  • oldbaldyoneoldbaldyone Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
    Always blame the game.....Gaming Excuses 101, Chapter 1, Day 1.

    I've seen warlocks do 2x more damage than the rest of the party combined, and we made it through the dungeon just fine. Sometimes you just have to look at your build and say to yourself "Do I want to have fun, or do I want to do massive DPS"...and then pick.
  • btfdbtfd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 177 Arc User
    You really have to attend with the class, the powers and features. Not simply pick this or that because it sounds nice etc. Keep the synergies in mind... And if you go full dps you can and will just have more fun ;)

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