What is the way to earn AD that is actually working at this moment?

plasticbat

I have not played the game yet.
However, based on posts I read, It seems the new AD earning methods are not working.

For example, someone said you need to have dungeon key to open the chest to get AD. Well, you have only 1 free dungeon key per day (unless you are VIP). Does PVP give AD? Yes, it said it should but does it? Do you need to win?

So, which method has been confirmed to be working?

ashnvf

Buy Zen, and convert to AD and invocation. Those are the only 2 working methods.

theycallmetomu

That would certainly explain the rapid decline in zen prices.

tripsofthrymr

theycallmetomu said:

That would certainly explain the rapid decline in zen prices.

Zen prices always fall (or at least the backlog diminishes) during double RP, as people sell Zen to buy GMOP's with AD. With this change, though, the price will not recover.

That in itself is a good thing.

Stomping on the legitimate players that invested in leadership in the name of "stomping out bots", though, is a bad thing. A very bad thing.

theycallmetomu

Eh. The game shouldn't encourage players to have 20 characters if they want to have cash to boost one character. I agree with removing AD from leadership conceptually. The problem is in the fixed prices of AD shop items, and the lack of consideration that actually went into changing the leadership tasks. The lack of ways to get AD.

But, I can totally agree with the idea of "yeah, we probably shouldn't set things up so it's optimal to have 20 characters even if you only play the one."

plasticbat

So, if I get it right, you can't even earn AD for playing the game at the moment until the next patch. I wonder if those AD sellers in Zex are those who left the game and forgot about their AD listing months ago. Why would anyone want to buy Zen these days? It is a recession and everybody would keep the AD in pocket.

theycallmetomu

Hence why the AD price of zen has dropped 50 points.

revan06100

Take your Credit card out ! As it's pretty much the only way to get a decent amount of AD

hustin1

revan06100 said:

Take your Credit card out ! As it's pretty much the only way to get a decent amount of AD

Not a chance. I'm sitting on my AD and my wallet is welded shut.

angrysprite

hustin1 said:

revan06100 said:

Take your Credit card out ! As it's pretty much the only way to get a decent amount of AD

Not a chance. I'm sitting on my AD and my wallet is welded shut.

THIS.

This is why it's gonna take a long time for the economy to "balance" after this change.
Call me "AD-Hoarder". Aint spending any of it unless I really, really, feel the need or want. And yeah: done with cash-for-Zen bit. Did it, done it, look what we get from it: constant deterioration of the game.

It just feels like a bad investment at this point. And that fastest way to go broke is to keep investing into a bad investment. Neverwinter is beginning to feel like Penny-Stocks now. And we all know what happened there.

theycallmetomu

If the goal is for prices to go down, then people hoarding the AD they have will cause prices to go down faster. It thus takes LESS time for "balance" to occur. But it's basically a reverse bubble. Once the price has dropped a great deal, people who are holding onto AD will pounce, which will restore prices again, at least temporarily. Expect a lot of volatility in the markets for a while.

wizardsleeves69

Here's a few ideas off the top of my head, none of which run into the 24k RAD cap or require a credit card:

You can still farm Loyal Avenger gear & Lightfoots from the gateway's dice game.

Craft unified elements and elemental aggregate with Alchemy.

Craft the component rings for the 2 slot lvl 25 rare task jewelcrafting rings or the lvl 25 underwear pieces (these take some purple crafting items tho).

Flip items in AH as prices fluctuate throughout any given week as the weekend warriors log on and off, lots of people liquefying assets into AD right now.

Start an even larger bot army just to farm AD from invoking (ok that one's a joke).

plasticbat

theycallmetomu said:

If the goal is for prices to go down, then people hoarding the AD they have will cause prices to go down faster. It thus takes LESS time for "balance" to occur. But it's basically a reverse bubble. Once the price has dropped a great deal, people who are holding onto AD will pounce, which will restore prices again, at least temporarily. Expect a lot of volatility in the markets for a while.

People hoard the AD. People also hoard the high value item unless they really need AD.
The AH will have items but low transaction.
This will continue until someone can start to produce some AD.
It is like real world. Until you have a job, you don't want to buy much.
We are all unemployed in NWO at the moment. We also don't want to sell our houses unless we really really have to.

givearandomname

theycallmetomu said:

Eh. The game shouldn't encourage players to have 20 characters if they want to have cash to boost one character. I agree with removing AD from leadership conceptually. The problem is in the fixed prices of AD shop items, and the lack of consideration that actually went into changing the leadership tasks. The lack of ways to get AD.

But, I can totally agree with the idea of "yeah, we probably shouldn't set things up so it's optimal to have 20 characters even if you only play the one."

now it promotes having multiple chars just as much but instead of doing leadership there botting tos on hundreds of toons and dread legion

theycallmetomu

it difficult to make money just "flipping" items on the AH, due to the 10% transaction cost.

Also, I think the "earn AD" question is about earning RADs. Because you're not "earning AD" by selling things on the AH so much as you are exchanging one form of asset for another.

santralafax

theycallmetomu said:

If the goal is for prices to go down, then people hoarding the AD they have will cause prices to go down faster. It thus takes LESS time for "balance" to occur. But it's basically a reverse bubble. Once the price has dropped a great deal, people who are holding onto AD will pounce, which will restore prices again, at least temporarily. Expect a lot of volatility in the markets for a while.

Fixed prices like GMOPS won't necessarily come down. Cryptic is pretty good at dragging their feet when they want to, And this is just the sort of thing they would be exceptionally draggy about.

jhpnw

gate was nerfed 30 of the highest dungeon today nothing better than seals an got 1750 ad 3 times no loyal pieces or anything of value lots of copper and very little xp a few rank 4s as well I think 3 rank 4s lots of lower level potions as rewards

suicidalgodot

wizardsleeves69 said:

Here's a few ideas off the top of my head, none of which run into the 24k RAD cap or require a credit card:

You can still farm Loyal Avenger gear & Lightfoots from the gateway's dice game.

Craft unified elements and elemental aggregate with Alchemy.

Craft the component rings for the 2 slot lvl 25 rare task jewelcrafting rings or the lvl 25 underwear pieces (these take some purple crafting items tho).

Flip items in AH as prices fluctuate throughout any given week as the weekend warriors log on and off, lots of people liquefying assets into AD right now.

Start an even larger bot army just to farm AD from invoking (ok that one's a joke).

...who will buy anything at all right now? Especially for the prices sellers got accustomed to - and served up to now, as, hey, you just had to plod on and wait a few days and the AD were there again?

E.g. Valindra's Crown Shard's price has dropped from 850k (green rarity) to 450k (blue rarity) over the last weekend.

So, farm all the Avenger rings, craft all the rings and undies you want. In the case of the rings, expect half the profit, in case of the underwear you might incur a net loss if you bought components already. Prices will rebalance, and it'll take time. A week or three at least, if not months...

darkstarcrash

jhpnw said:

gate was nerfed 30 of the highest dungeon today nothing better than seals an got 1750 ad 3 times no loyal pieces or anything of value lots of copper and very little xp a few rank 4s as well I think 3 rank 4s lots of lower level potions as rewards

Sword Coast Adventures wasn't nerfed; there is just a range of rewards and you weren't lucky. I got 2 loyal items in one run, so maybe it was buffed! (/sarcasm)

Actually, 1750 AD is on the high end, since I get 1250 AD most often.

tassedethe13

plasticbat said:

theycallmetomu said:

If the goal is for prices to go down, then people hoarding the AD they have will cause prices to go down faster. It thus takes LESS time for "balance" to occur. But it's basically a reverse bubble. Once the price has dropped a great deal, people who are holding onto AD will pounce, which will restore prices again, at least temporarily. Expect a lot of volatility in the markets for a while.

People hoard the AD. People also hoard the high value item unless they really need AD.
The AH will have items but low transaction.
This will continue until someone can start to produce some AD.
It is like real world. Until you have a job, you don't want to buy much.
We are all unemployed in NWO at the moment. We also don't want to sell our houses unless we really really have to.

GIVE THAT MAN A COOKIE

drkbodhi

I don't know about anyone else... but I made over my maximum rAD that I could refine.​​

mifiisu

drkbodhi said:

I don't know about anyone else... but I made over my maximum rAD that I could refine.​​

Estimated time?

dandare

Well the most economically correct option at the moment would be:

Get a job (even not paid well one, just handing fliers would do) Buy with earnings Zen, Exchange for AD.

If prices won't change you have good chance to master you characters equip 4-6 times faster that way than playing the game

dandare

plasticbat said:

People hoard the AD. People also hoard the high value item unless they really need AD.
The AH will have items but low transaction.
This will continue until someone can start to produce some AD.
It is like real world. Until you have a job, you don't want to buy much.
We are all unemployed in NWO at the moment. We also don't want to sell our houses unless we really really have to.

This is best comparing I saw so far! Definitely cookie deserving.

We might say that all the production facilities/companies good or bad just stopped existing and... back to square one we're once more a beggars with no employment.

Of course some might have outside source of income (irl money spend) and keep doing well.

santralafax

theycallmetomu said:

If the goal is for prices to go down, then people hoarding the AD they have will cause prices to go down faster. It thus takes LESS time for "balance" to occur. But it's basically a reverse bubble. Once the price has dropped a great deal, people who are holding onto AD will pounce, which will restore prices again, at least temporarily. Expect a lot of volatility in the markets for a while.

Except for fixed costs like boons and GMOPS. Those are what I'm looking at. They also give us less AD per day. I used to be able to get 8000 from PVP alone. And now they've taken away Seals of Triumph--required for PVP armor.

santralafax

d21e4 said:

plasticbat said:

Of course some might have outside source of income (irl money spend) and keep doing well.

The value of AD for RL$ has plummeted. I am not opening my wallet on principle--and on value!