I'm a casual player. I have 2 characters like the average player and i make like 1million+ AD per month playing. Overall i managed to get decent iL and not near BiS but it doesnt matter because i can still keep up. So why are you complaining with all this AD changes? i think you just get used to get BiS easily and in a mmorpg it shouldnt be like that. I hope that with this changes ppl with leadership armies stop getting insane( yes, insane) ammounts of ADs so we the REAL casual players can buy things in the auction market at a reasonable price and not at the ridicoulous prices that exist right now. If cryptic think about decreasing the prices in zen store it would be nice because i dont think any normal person spending 2k to get BiS for a couple of months. So i think that this patch will be very useful for a large portion of players and sorry if you cant be BiS anymore without throwing some cash but thats the way i think it should be. I hope that the economy changes and the prices get lower so the ammount of ADs you can make actually playing( leadership its not really playing the game) really matter and because of that we all can get better items.
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THOSE are the people who dominate every PvP match you do.
It's not a person with a leadership army that can stand toe to toe with all 10 people of the opposing team in GG.
It's not a person with a leadership army that ranks the top of the PvP ladder never having lost a match...
Those are exploiters who have had everything in game since before it went live, who have billions and billions of AD spread across multiple accounts and characters, who have thousands upon thousands of dollars of Zen from selling AD spread across multiple accounts and characters.
Taking out leadership AD armies will not stop those people in any way shape or form. It's just making sure nobody can ever catch up to them.
Trust me, I have people in my guild who have massive leadership armies, are they better geared then I am with my 8 toons, hell yeah. But ya know what? Even with a huge AD income, they are nowhere near all rank 12s and mythic gear.
Now if they were to do this along with universally lowering AD costs and sinks. I would not have a single complaint. Because that would help the little guy catch up to the big dogs in the game. But unless there's been a lot of dev posts that I have missed. That isn't happening.
So again, all taking leadership out of the game will do is make sure the have's continue to have and that the have nots have yet another way not to join them.
Like I said, I have a friend with a large leadership army (40+ toons) and I honestly don't know how he does it.
I also can tell you that while he is better geared than I am, he isn't THAT better geared.
I have rank 8's and 9s, he has rank 10's and 11's. We've both been playing honestly since beta.
I feel for the new comers to the game. You will NEVER be able to catch up to me and him, nevertheless the people who have cheated their way to the top.
I sure as hell am not going to grind ad for 8 to 12 hours a day just to get what I get in under 2 hours now.
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But your incorrect in thinking that the issues are just PvP. If I was a PvE player and I grouped with someone and saw them wiping the floor and having their way with every monster in the dungeon, then I look at their gear and see that they have all rank 12s and legendary stuff. Then I say. I WANT THAT!
Then I find out in order to get that I have to fork out anywhere from $8k to $24k (Depending on who you talk to and what number crunching they've done). And you decide, I am NOT spending that amount of money on the game. Lets see what I can do in game....Oh wait. there's no way in game to ever reach them. The game's been out 2 to 3 years and it would take me 20 years to get there?
At that point I don't see too many people saying "oh well, it is what it is" I see more people saying "F@#! that!! I'm out"
Which means that the community is not going to grow. THAT is why this worries me. I cant see a reason why a new player, once they've seen the ugly truth, would want to stay in game.
If your anti leadership armies this change does not address that directly. It addresses leadership and leadership armies indirectly.
Leadership armyies are nothing more then the general player base's way to keep up with all the exploiters that have gotten insane amounts of zen and AD over the years that this game has been live.
My issues is against taking away ways for those who are new or not as invested in the game from catching up to us who are.
FYI- I have 1 level 60 to 70 for every class and all of them are close to max'd out on leadership, if not at 25 already.
I use leadership as much for refinement items as for Astral Diamonds. But I DO use them for AD.
8 to 10 toons is not a leadership army, in my mind or in Cryptics. They are aiming this at people who have 30+ toons who do leadership. But as someone who has several friends who do that.....I can tell you. They are not breaking the game.
Game's already been broke by reasons I have stated above and in other threads. I'll save you from the wall of text and just ask you to scroll up a bit and read my other posts.
Cryptic trying to present this as some way to increase the AD you can gain from playing the game is ridiculous.