Soft Caps?

guiilleee

I heared some stats have strong diminishing returns... Any info??? Thanks

santralafax

ArPen over 60 is useless for PVE, could be wothwhile still if you PVP alot.

kvet

Over 60% penetration because that will go through most (all?) mob's damage resistance in PvE. I'm not sure what the highest mob arpen is at this point (since it's been reduced in some cases just recently), but whatever that "resistance ignored" figure is would be your soft cap on AC/Defense (since your DR is a combination of the two). Beyond that, though, the answer is no, according to what I've read so far, as of module 6, there are no longer any diminishing returns - all stats now provide linear increases to whatever their respective effects are. The number of points required to move the needle gets smaller as you level, so what would give you, say 100 at level 20 would only give you, say, 10 at level 70 (those numbers are made up... don't know the ACTUAL scale off the top of my head).

All bets are off on arpen and defense when it comes to PvP.

guiilleee

Thanks!

instynctive

I think Tiamat has the highest at 60% damage resist.

beatannier

Stats have no diminishing returns at all. Some rating, however, have.

• Neither ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​"Old" ratings nor Power have no diminishing return at all.
  
• Armor Penetration have a diminishing return.
  
• ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​"New" ratings have a high diminishing return and are hard capped at 11.36%.
  

See my Rating formulas guide part for more details.

commanderdata002

hard cap:
arp 60%(in pve)
defense 80%

the movement, AP, combat adv, tenacity etc stats still has soft caps.

instynctive

I'm not seeing a "hard cap" on ArPen. My GWF hovers around -75% RI (depending on the last time he was near a campfire).

sorce

instynctive said:

I'm not seeing a "hard cap" on ArPen. My GWF hovers around -75% RI (depending on the last time he was near a campfire).

The problem is that anything over 60% RI is a waste.

santralafax

commanderdata002 said:

hard cap:
arp 60%
defense 80%

the movement, AP, combat adv, tenacity stats still has soft caps.

What are those soft caps? I'm curious, for example I have all darks in my utility slots. Is that overkill? (I try to speed up my sloooow GF.

plasticbat

instynctive said:

I'm not seeing a "hard cap" on ArPen. My GWF hovers around -75% RI (depending on the last time he was near a campfire).

In PVE, the highest DR of a monster is 60%. 60% - 75% is still 0 in this calculation. The extra -15% DR does not help you in PVE. Hence, it is a waste.

instynctive

confusedpoof said:

The problem is that anything over 60% RI is a waste.

Maybe so... but if I decide to go into IWD PvP, I do like to have a chance in hell of actually hitting something.