test content
  • Games
  • Social
  • Arc News
  • Support
  • Zen
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Forums > Home› PvE Discussion

Rank 8 Guild Hall by x2RP? Impossible?

ravenwings22ravenwings22 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 13 Arc User
edited August 2015 in PvE Discussion
What do you reckon are the odds that any guild can reach rank 8 Guild Hall to receive the new Stronghold Mainhand and Offhand in time for Double Refinement from 10-14 September?

Firstly, the influence requirement is brutal, with a cap of 400 per day and each rank requiring 100k or more. Secondly, the wait time for each upgrade is ridiculous. I'm in a pretty active guild and we are waiting for the upgrade from rank 4 to rank 5 of our Guild Hall -- it takes FOUR DAYS. I can imagine it will just take more and more time with each rank up.

So I'm wondering, will even the top guilds in this game be able to rank up their guild hall to rank 8 in time to take advantage of Double Refinement? Is it even possible?

Would be interesting to hear from others in very active guilds -- what is the status of your guild hall right now? And does anyone know the upgrade time to rank 6, 7 and 8?




Post edited by zebular on

Comments

  • instynctiveinstynctive Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,885 Arc User
    We're active, but on the smaller side. Our GH is currently upgrading to L3 and we couldn't be more excited!
    header.png
    "...I grab my wiener and charge!" - ironzerg79
  • UnknownUnknown
    This content has been removed.
  • sharonious_rebelsharonious_rebel Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    I know there are a few guilds that were rank 5 as of the weekend (not mine, alas). They might make it, but I doubt anyone else will with the way the wait times stack up. :/
  • onegaki101onegaki101 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 327 Arc User
    current content can be done with current gear. So there really isn't an importance of getting those items quickly other than prestige.

    As mentioned, there are a few guilds that will make it.
  • boltzmann42boltzmann42 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 46 Arc User
    upgrade time for GH is simple: to rank up from X to X+1, it takes X days. So rank 6 will take 5 days, rank 7 is 6 days and finally rank 8 is 7 days. (tested on PST)

    Just FYI, if we sum all the upgrade times (for GH only) from 1 to 20, it takes 190 days.
    Monsieur Seekan, Guild leader - Légende Obscure
    mEpSQi4.jpg
  • fatgunsfatguns Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    So rank 20 will take 19days.. *gulp*
  • henry404henry404 Member Posts: 690 Arc User
    fatguns wrote: »
    So rank 20 will take 19days.. *gulp*

    or "forever", depending upon your guild ;p
  • tvcitytvcity Member Posts: 208 Arc User
    no way you can get to Rank 8 by the next 2xRP weekend........and that's final :neutral:
  • oldbaldyoneoldbaldyone Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
    onegaki101 wrote: »
    current content can be done with current gear. So there really isn't an importance of getting those items quickly other than prestige.

    As mentioned, there are a few guilds that will make it.

    The major premise and attraction of an online game is to progress. This game possibly more than others now due to lack of content. I don't know many people who actually enjoy running the small amount of dungeons we have (that are recycled content). So about the only thing holding people is the ability to make progress.

    TL:DR: People love the new shinies...if its in the game, they want it. Need is in the eye of the beholder.
  • dsn1118dsn1118 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 682 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Most of us want GH
    onegaki101 wrote: »
    current content can be done with current gear. So there really isn't an importance of getting those items quickly other than prestige.

    As mentioned, there are a few guilds that will make it.

    I dont know about others but most of our guild want SH8 for main-hand and off-hand artifact and not because of that idiotic gears which even their stats are screwy for most classes.

  • spideymtspideymt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 710 Arc User
    dsn1118 wrote: »
    I dont know about others but most of our guild want SH8 for main-hand and off-hand artifact and not because of that idiotic gears which even their stats are screwy for most classes.

    Absolutely correct!!!

  • asterdahlasterdahl Member, Cryptic Developer Posts: 1,258 Cryptic Developer
    Hi everyone, thanks to this post we identified an unfortunately ambiguous statement in collections. Collections mentions "Stronghold Rank 8," this is an artifact of a time when on preview the guild hall had half as many ranks (though required the same amount of materials and time as the current 20 ranks do.)

    Unfortunately this means that "Stronghold Rank 8" actually translates into "Guild Hall rank 16." This change will be reflected in collections with the same update that brings Stronghold PvP. To clarify, the amount of investment required to unlock this content has not been adjusted, however, the wording was unfortunately unclear and we apologize for the miscommunication in collections.
  • rinat114rinat114 Member Posts: 913 Arc User
    asterdahl wrote: »
    Hi everyone, thanks to this post we identified an unfortunately ambiguous statement in collections. Collections mentions "Stronghold Rank 8," this is an artifact of a time when on preview the guild hall had half as many ranks (though required the same amount of materials and time as the current 20 ranks do.)

    Unfortunately this means that "Stronghold Rank 8" actually translates into "Guild Hall rank 16." This change will be reflected in collections with the same update that brings Stronghold PvP. To clarify, the amount of investment required to unlock this content has not been adjusted, however, the wording was unfortunately unclear and we apologize for the miscommunication in collections.

    Please tell me this was a typo and you just cleaaaarly meant to type "6" and not "16".

    omfg.

    New weapons in Underdark and 140 days from now (assuming R5 GH right now). Whelp.
    r4zkC9t.png
    The Holy Crusaders guild leader     ♚ Mod 10 PVE Destroyer GWF guide ♚ Founding member of the Relentless Alliance
  • icyphishicyphish Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,255 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    asterdahl wrote: »
    Hi everyone, thanks to this post we identified an unfortunately ambiguous statement in collections. Collections mentions "Stronghold Rank 8," this is an artifact of a time when on preview the guild hall had half as many ranks (though required the same amount of materials and time as the current 20 ranks do.)

    Unfortunately this means that "Stronghold Rank 8" actually translates into "Guild Hall rank 16." This change will be reflected in collections with the same update that brings Stronghold PvP. To clarify, the amount of investment required to unlock this content has not been adjusted, however, the wording was unfortunately unclear and we apologize for the miscommunication in collections.

    Aww... this means even if we have all resources, it would take at least 4.5~5 months... and mod8 UnderDark is scheduled to release before that....

    Two concerns I would have.
    1. Some players from mid~small guilds would either give up their guild to join a bigger guild, or they would give up the game... cus getting new and better gear is a goal for many players, and when they know that goal is unreachable to them, they could just give up instead... this doesn't seem very healthy for the community..

    2. We all know Cryptic's speed updating all the new gears, even if the big guilds can reach that target in 5~6 months or so, the chance is UnderDark would get released first and the new/better gears could make all the hardwork for stronghold obsolete... very discouraging for the guilds to continue investing into Stronghold.....

    I suggest Dev to listen to what the players have to say about this as this design could potentially lost some player based temporarily (until next mod) or permenently if they decided other games suits them better....
    Post edited by icyphish on
    icydrake%20avatar2_zpsg7rp0xti.jpg

    Author of GWF Speed Demon PvP Build (Mod 11) <- Click to reveal the Speedy Beast! >:)
  • UnknownUnknown
    edited August 2015
    This content has been removed.
  • cloudius1978cloudius1978 Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    I read that some smaller guilds are still getting their Farm or Guild Hall 2 up so Guild Hall 16 is almost impossible for them. While it's possible to do so if they maintain the grind, the sense of progression (from which many derived satisfaction from when we play MMOs) is lacklustre, or worst... missing.

    Cryptic probably have or can easily generate an overview status of guilds, their average size and progress and do a realistic projection as to how many guilds can realistically achieve some of the key milestones in Strongholds (e.g. like the one above), assuming the continued interest and activity (this is optimistic as players will soon get bored grinding the same Heroic Encounters weeks after weeks).

    They can then make an informed decision whether some of the required resource levels are too harsh for the community and fine tune accordingly.

    I'm enjoying SH thus far and my guild has been rallying together actively for HE farming and dungeon runs. Love to see more improvements made to the game, taking into account the community's feedback.
  • jaotutjaotut Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 576 Arc User
    defiantone99 wrote: »
    Ya. GH 16 for weapons is bummer. No one will go for that, I can see all the rage-quits now.lol

    That's what I'm thinking as well. On the bright side, letting us know now would have saved a lot of us money. Just when people were thinking of buying the stronghold packs to get enough resources to reach rank 8, they'll probably say forget it now.

    Merlin - CW Merlyn - HR Psylocke - TR Black Widow - GWF


    Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)
  • rickcase276rickcase276 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,404 Arc User
    Yep, still not built the farm in my guild. Am only at 1060 adventurer's shards of power. So no chance of even reaching the level 16 guild hall to even worry about the weapons.
  • wentriswentris Member Posts: 542 Arc User
    asterdahl wrote: »
    Hi everyone, thanks to this post we identified an unfortunately ambiguous statement in collections. Collections mentions "Stronghold Rank 8," this is an artifact of a time when on preview the guild hall had half as many ranks (though required the same amount of materials and time as the current 20 ranks do.)

    Unfortunately this means that "Stronghold Rank 8" actually translates into "Guild Hall rank 16." This change will be reflected in collections with the same update that brings Stronghold PvP. To clarify, the amount of investment required to unlock this content has not been adjusted, however, the wording was unfortunately unclear and we apologize for the miscommunication in collections.

    Will gear introduced in mod 8 be superior to current SH gear? GH level 16 is long term goal for most guilds and introduction of mod 8 would come before it.
  • UnknownUnknown
    This content has been removed.
  • janr92janr92 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 63 Arc User
    wentris said:



    Will gear introduced in mod 8 be superior to current SH gear? GH level 16 is long term goal for most guilds and introduction of mod 8 would come before it.

    They will not implement new weapon on next mod, if you think they introduced it only on level up cap and now for the sh, so the one in sh will be the best in game until next level cap (they also said that il 140 will be the higher for long time if i remember right)
    | Yolt - TR MI Executioner |
    < Guild: Gravity X Game >
  • jugger71jugger71 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Deleted. Im done being negative.

    *shrugs*

    Post edited by jugger71 on
  • flyingleonflyingleon Member Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Well. Didn't people complain that they introduced new artifact weapon too soon? This is an about a mod delay. I am happy about it. You still get all the boons in SH and new slightly better gear for pvp and PvE. This is not a bad news to me.

    New SH rank requirement means less gear gap and power creep. And my investment in old gears worth more. Well, I did not see a reason to not to be happy.

    Join the Greycloaks



    Ana-GWF SM Destroyer | Farseer-CW MoF Renegade | Leon-GF SM Tactician
    Adrik Battlefate-DC DO Virtuous | Cassi Woodsheart-HR PF Trapper
  • mynaammynaam Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 937 Arc User
    Really happy that it will take so long to get the Artifact equipment, I just hope that there is no new gear in next mod since it will propably arive before most guilds reach the level required to buy the SH gear
    There are more than BIS players in this game
    RIP Real Tiamat, RIP Real Demogorgon RIP real Temple of the spider. Why remove non bis content to give to bis players ????
    FORCING the majority of your player base to play 4 mod old dungeons and trial will have a bad result on player base
    Changes are getting so bad i would rather prefer no new changes (RIP ICE FISHING in winter fest)



  • suicidalgodotsuicidalgodot Member Posts: 2,465 Arc User
    ...there'll be more 2x RP Weekends ahead...
  • dsn1118dsn1118 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 682 Arc User
    Actually there is another one in 29th of October:)
Sign In or Register to comment.