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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    cesuke wrote: »
    Man i really dont understand the TR or Piercing damage ... Really i had a very good equipment and didnt do that kind of damage unless the other char is very bad equipped...

    Did u have a good build and did u slot first strike?

    First Strike lvl 4 full offense slots Rank 12 savage had tríed Exe and Sabo builds... Really far from that damage i even though that guys that 1 hit Kill uses a kind of bug... U may try a Rogue and will see i am telling true.
  • revovlerjesus1revovlerjesus1 Member Posts: 481 Arc User
    cesuke wrote: »
    cesuke wrote: »
    Man i really dont understand the TR or Piercing damage ... Really i had a very good equipment and didnt do that kind of damage unless the other char is very bad equipped...

    Did u have a good build and did u slot first strike?

    First Strike lvl 4 full offense slots Rank 12 savage had tríed Exe and Sabo builds... Really far from that damage i even though that guys that 1 hit Kill uses a kind of bug... U may try a Rogue and will see i am telling true.

    I main TR for over 1 year, and with BiS stuff its easy to pull 120Ks SEs.
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  • MiseryMisery Member Posts: 146 Arc User
    Devs nerf SE and TRs will just start stacking over 20k arp :D Axe beak + guild's boon. Pretty much making everything piercable.
    3.8k PvP SW.
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  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    cesuke wrote: »
    cesuke wrote: »
    Man i really dont understand the TR or Piercing damage ... Really i had a very good equipment and didnt do that kind of damage unless the other char is very bad equipped...

    Did u have a good build and did u slot first strike?

    First Strike lvl 4 full offense slots Rank 12 savage had tríed Exe and Sabo builds... Really far from that damage i even though that guys that 1 hit Kill uses a kind of bug... U may try a Rogue and will see i am telling true.

    I main TR for over 1 year, and with BiS stuff its easy to pull 120Ks SEs.

    Man what is BIS ? i am a Grim Armor With Ensorcelled Daggers MI was Executioner now Sabo.

    clonkyo1 wrote: »
    cesuke wrote: »
    First Strike lvl 4 full offense slots Rank 12 savage had tríed Exe and Sabo builds... Really far from that damage i even though that guys that 1 hit Kill uses a kind of bug... U may try a Rogue and will see i am telling true.

    Mind if you post a screenshot or video of your TR and your gear??? because my own main
    TR (exec) wearing blue HAMSTER PvP gear, not enchants at all can hit for around 40k damage with S.E. ...

    40k damage is razonable i do that kind of damage normally a bit more a bit less
    More than 80% RI not worth it. Plus i can stack same amount Arm pen. Fair enough. I already tried 122% RI in this mod tho... Also more tenacity will offer more Arm pen resistance. The problem is piercing dmg that ignores everything.

    What is RI ?

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  • deathklaat666deathklaat666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 61 Arc User
    I really appreciate all this feed back . thank you all... but this has gotten side tracked to a TR bash and its not all about them.. its about playing a fantasy game and wanting to be The powerful hero, and then getting one hit buy "Trash mobs" in dungeons and even been smacked by a guardian fighter for over 90k... and yes i have Tenacity, no im not a complete nub, and yes i do dodge S.E.s by sound.. my point and its clearly just an opinion and that was i dont think someone should be one shot , exept by the meanest and toughest of enemies(I.E Bosses , BIS etc)
  • cesukecesuke Member Posts: 311 Arc User
    clonkyo1 wrote: »
    Oks, @cesuke , you just confirmed that you are newbie on PvP.
    cesuke wrote: »
    1 - Man what is BIS ? i am a Grim Armor With Ensorcelled Daggers MI was Executioner now Sabo.

    2 - 40k damage is razonable i do that kind of damage normally a bit more a bit less

    3 - What is RI ?

    1 - BiS = Best in Slot . This is, best "gear/enchant" in a slot... for example, for TR-class, a BiS Enchant is "Vorpal Enchantment". So, until you get BiS gear and enchants, you should not talk about PvP, defending a senseless mechanic as Shocking Execution has right now.

    2 - You are totally WRONG here. On that gear (both yours and mine), hitting for 40k is SENSELESS HIGH. No other class can get that number with that gear.

    3 - RI = Resistance Ignored. This is, the amount of "damage resistance" (DR) a char ignores while dealing any kind of damage.

    Man now i really think u dont hav a BIS rogue u just hate Rogues... I hav trans vorpal had slotted full 12 enchants... I dont know what is ur BIS to do 3ple my damage
    I really appreciate all this feed back . thank you all... but this has gotten side tracked to a TR bash and its not all about them.. its about playing a fantasy game and wanting to be The powerful hero, and then getting one hit buy "Trash mobs" in dungeons and even been smacked by a guardian fighter for over 90k... and yes i have Tenacity, no im not a complete nub, and yes i do dodge S.E.s by sound.. my point and its clearly just an opinion and that was i dont think someone should be one shot , exept by the meanest and toughest of enemies(I.E Bosses , BIS etc)

    LOL Man all ppl though it was another rant about rogues XD
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  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
    clonkyo1 wrote: »
    I really appreciate all this feed back . thank you all... but this has gotten side tracked to a TR bash and its not all about them.. its about playing a fantasy game and wanting to be The powerful hero, and then getting one hit buy "Trash mobs" in dungeons and even been smacked by a guardian fighter for over 90k... and yes i have Tenacity, no im not a complete nub, and yes i do dodge S.E.s by sound.. my point and its clearly just an opinion and that was i dont think someone should be one shot , exept by the meanest and toughest of enemies(I.E Bosses , BIS etc)

    Well, to one shot with GF (in example), you need a specific set up which is not that easy to set or land . BUT, while i agree that "one shots" and even "one rotation" must go away for good, there is levels of "damage/dificult" to land them. Here, and talking about GF, i agree that we need a better "visual confirmation" about if we are being targeted by KC and a better "sphere" shape to see IF GF is on ITF.
    cesuke wrote: »
    Man now i really think u dont hav a BIS rogue u just hate Rogues... I hav trans vorpal had slotted full 12 enchants... I dont know what is ur BIS to do 3ple my damage

    Never said that my main TR (Exec) was on BiS gear. In fact, i said that my main TR is wearing HAMSTER PvP gear. But, if i can pull around the same amount of damage than you with your TR in better gear than mine, then, you are doing something wrong, dont you think??? (i will not tell you what are you doing wrong)

    DONT forget and the feytouched which help to one shots......
  • raistlinmajere00raistlinmajere00 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 176 Arc User
    cesuke wrote: »
    clonkyo1 wrote: »
    Oks, @cesuke , you just confirmed that you are newbie on PvP.
    cesuke wrote: »
    1 - Man what is BIS ? i am a Grim Armor With Ensorcelled Daggers MI was Executioner now Sabo.

    2 - 40k damage is razonable i do that kind of damage normally a bit more a bit less

    3 - What is RI ?

    1 - BiS = Best in Slot . This is, best "gear/enchant" in a slot... for example, for TR-class, a BiS Enchant is "Vorpal Enchantment". So, until you get BiS gear and enchants, you should not talk about PvP, defending a senseless mechanic as Shocking Execution has right now.

    2 - You are totally WRONG here. On that gear (both yours and mine), hitting for 40k is SENSELESS HIGH. No other class can get that number with that gear.

    3 - RI = Resistance Ignored. This is, the amount of "damage resistance" (DR) a char ignores while dealing any kind of damage.

    Man now i really think u dont hav a BIS rogue u just hate Rogues... I hav trans vorpal had slotted full 12 enchants... I dont know what is ur BIS to do 3ple my damage
    I really appreciate all this feed back . thank you all... but this has gotten side tracked to a TR bash and its not all about them.. its about playing a fantasy game and wanting to be The powerful hero, and then getting one hit buy "Trash mobs" in dungeons and even been smacked by a guardian fighter for over 90k... and yes i have Tenacity, no im not a complete nub, and yes i do dodge S.E.s by sound.. my point and its clearly just an opinion and that was i dont think someone should be one shot , exept by the meanest and toughest of enemies(I.E Bosses , BIS etc)

    LOL Man all ppl though it was another rant about rogues XD

    So you have Grim set, mulhorand weapons and full slot R12's and transcendents. That's interesting combination, are you perhaps using all R12 Tenebrous in offence slots?
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  • gomok72gomok72 Member Posts: 616 Arc User
    beatannier wrote: »
    To take such a high amount of damage, you need to either get a lot of debuffs (long fight) or have completelly no tenacity. Then, you need not to avoid nor block that powerful attack that usually comes after red circle or sonorous skill noise.

    Anybody who gets one–shotted, is either completelly newbie or just insane bad player.
    It is good for good players to be able to one–shot trash players like we one–shot trash mobs in dungeons.

    And of course you had to come on here and tell people how bad or newbie they are. I still get hit for 102k of all my health, full tenacity and anyone on this forum that has ran into me in PvP can tell you (Since upgrading my gear to mythics and rank 12s), I'm anything but bad or a newbie. Game is not balanced at all even with full BIS gear, depending on what class you play.

    You got GWFs hitting people for 121k damage, GF hitting people for 104k health, CW blasting people in one rotation for a total of 110k damage (macroed) and Rouges killing people with Shocking execution (exception Paladins, reason they hate them so much.).

    Mod 7.5 will be HAMSTER and it will be even more unblanced with all of the broke HAMSTER enchants that increase or decrease damage making most classes worthless, if they are not slotting Lostmauth.

    It's just not a "YOUR A BAD PLAYER", type of deal going on, it's a bad dynamic as a whole that the developers have not recognized (see SW and NCL.).

    50k damage in one hit should not be possible for any class in this game, but it is so 161k damage is possible even with full tenacity.

    On a note, there is a enchant combination in this game, right now that let's you ignore DR on Negation and Tenacity, so maybe they are using that EXPLOIT (No shortage of these in PvP.).

    I may not be considered by most the BEST PVP Warlock on the server but, I am the most HATED amongst them.

    -Kymos
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