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Could premades at least leave us GG PVP ver 2.0 aka DEV attention needed for PVP

matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
edited August 2015 in PvP Discussion
Hi fellow Players and Dear Devs!

I would like this thread to be the continuing of my original thread, since all the feedback we have put in their was for good and we are "5 mins before 12", as the germans say, this means PVP in this game is just 1 step short of completely dying, this is no doomsaying, it is pure FACT and it would be a shame, cause the game has the best action combat system amongst today's games, it would be a shame if it would be wasted.

Since most of you know, what we were talking about there, i wish this to be a continuing thread of the original, i still have hopes, we will get the original back too.

I would also like to ask everyone to keep personal matters for PM.

Now my plea to the Devs:

Dear Devs, you are about to face the nearly or entirely death of PVP in this game, no doomsaying again, no bad joke, just pure simple FACTs, so please act! If a PVP queue at lvl 70 only poped up during happy hour twice and the first match couldn't be started, cause only 8(!) people accepted the queue and only the second brought us PUGs a match, but then again it was so one sided, that most folks left, cause of the one sided premade issue, than i think it is really time to act. I have to say, this is by no means a one day phenomenon, many returning players ask around, is PVP dead?

The lower tires aren't better either in DOM, in the bracket lvl 20-29 zero match during happy hour, in the bracket lvl 30-39 people were desperately asking in Zone Chat to get at least so many people on board, that they could play a single PVP match. I don't know, what else needs to be said to get Devs attention and to hammer it into premades head, that all effort put into Stronghold PVP will be in vain, cause by the time Stronghold PVP arrives, there will be nearly no PUG, who will want to run it and PVP guilds will lose interest too, cause after a while they will be bored.

I can only ask you Devs, read my initial thread, filter out the in game experiences of PUGs and draw finally the conclusion. 2 years have passed and you didn't touch the object once, it is time or it will be over and the patient, called PVP long dead before you can operate him. PVP is in such a sad state, that it has a worse reputation- amongst decent players, because of the many exploiters and PUGstompers-, than Jack the Ripper.

You, dear Devs need to act and do at least 1 step, just 1, make GG PVP only available as solo. Sure we all in the community could come up with at least a 100+ ideas, where PVP needs to be reworked, but hey this is a small step and even doable by just 1 single Dev in a very short time and the reward you would get would be insane, people would put you on their shields, they would be so happy.

I advocate the salvation of the PUG vs Premade issue very much, cause i have lost so many good friends, guilds (some of my own too), cause of Mod 6 disaster and the lack of PVE content-sadly- and as we hear, there are no plans bringing them back again, at least not in the near future. Many people turned to PVP for some end game fun, but it is gone now too. I must emphasis again, zero queue pop up for under lvl 70 brackets during happy hour and only 2 for lvl 70s - ,do i really need to say more?!

Other side of the Coin, dear PVP guilds, please understand, that you are digging your own grave too, not just ours. I don't say all PVP guild practice the easy PUGstomping, but yes there are many black sheeps amongst you, please sort them out of your ranks, cause one day even the most honest Top Tier PVPer won't have a field to play, cause he won't have enemies to face. It is our mutual interest to seperate us, you premades and us PUGs, so we can have both fun and some rewards. Hey at the moment as a PUG i can hardly do my daily PVP session and get that single seal without facing tons of semi or full premades in GG PVP.


Thank you for reading on both sides of the fence!

The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
Robert E. Lee

I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill

The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke

Comments

  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    Continuing the same posts after the previous version has been shut down, is usually a bad strategy.

    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    You posted there too, so you know, how miserable things are.

    There is no bad strategy, when the house is falling down on your head, every silly thing may help you survive. Sadly i can't come here with examples from RL history or economics, as much as i would like to point out some similair situations and how they were solved, for the good.

    P.S: This is only a sequal to the original, but as you can see i have asked the people to behave more, use PM for personal matters and this thread is directed more towards the Devs.

    We need to get their attention or we lose PVP- entirely. Jesus, PVP community is smaller now, than the population of a small village, i know nearly everybody by name and guild and it is getting smaller day by day. Stronghold PVP, with who, if there won't be players to partcipate?
    The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
    Robert E. Lee

    I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
    Winston Churchill

    The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
    David Icke

  • dll32exedll32exe Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 26 Arc User
    Absolutley agree what author said. Each time queue in GG praying: pls no premade pls no premade. At first cap u see glowing sausages at chickens run at ya "oh yeah....nice premade here". And from 10vs10 very quickly becomes 10vs5. GG in GG.
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    The original was shut down due to the out of control flaming. The flaming had a purpose... to remove the original effort to change things in PvP.​​
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    Atwil "At" - Tiefling TR / Saardush - Black Dragonborn GWF / White - Tiefling OP
    Leadership Council of Civil Anarchy
    SYNERGY Alliance
  • vinceent1vinceent1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    i can easily avoid flaming now, i can only said that i thank you morenthar, finally someone find the balls and said directly here, that pvp guilds have no plans to change anything towards their playing, so we can catter to developers. ask them for changes. agree completely that pvp in this game need one arena with solo que only.
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  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    drkbodhi wrote: »
    The original was shut down due to the out of control flaming. The flaming had a purpose... to remove the original effort to change things in PvP.​​

    Exactly, as you can remember my friend, i wrote it too several times and hoped the Mods will be able to look through that cheap trick and only clean the hatred posts, not the valuable informations, which i hoped would somehow reach the Devs before Mod 7 hits live.

    Still i keep my fingers crossed, maybe Andy can get something through to them.

    The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
    Robert E. Lee

    I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
    Winston Churchill

    The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
    David Icke

  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    I can put a bug in his ear. That would be all I could do. The rest is up to them. This will he to happen if PvP is to stay alive in NW. It would be horrible thing if 1/4 to 1/3 of the game would die due to an oversight issue.​​
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    Atwil "At" - Tiefling TR / Saardush - Black Dragonborn GWF / White - Tiefling OP
    Leadership Council of Civil Anarchy
    SYNERGY Alliance
  • crimpatulcrimpatul Member Posts: 197
    edited August 2015
    Sad when I see the 1.0 closed. I was starting to get fun.

    Glad to see how some things have changed in 2.0, keeping an eye on this. ;)
  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    crimpatul wrote: »
    Sad when I see the 1.0 closed. I was starting to get fun.

    Glad to see how some things have changed in 2.0, keeping an eye on this. ;)

    Please behave, playing the same thing over and over are we?

    The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
    Robert E. Lee

    I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
    Winston Churchill

    The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
    David Icke

  • crimpatulcrimpatul Member Posts: 197
    edited August 2015
    crimpatul wrote: »
    Sad when I see the 1.0 closed. I was starting to get fun.

    Glad to see how some things have changed in 2.0, keeping an eye on this. ;)

    Plese behave, playing the same thing over and over are we?

    Whats exactly the problem with my post?

    Can I even talk or I need your permission?

  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    crimpatul wrote: »
    crimpatul wrote: »
    Sad when I see the 1.0 closed. I was starting to get fun.

    Glad to see how some things have changed in 2.0, keeping an eye on this. ;)

    Plese behave, playing the same thing over and over are we?

    Whats exactly the problem with my post?

    Can I even talk or I need your permission?

    My last post to you dude, you are like a glass to all of us, you premades fear the change and you guys do everything in your power to get threads like this closed. Put on a new record, it's boring already.

    The real honest man is honest from conviction of what is right, not from policy.
    Robert E. Lee

    I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
    Winston Churchill

    The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
    David Icke

  • crimpatulcrimpatul Member Posts: 197
    edited August 2015
    1.-I dont premade in GG.
    2.-I dont fear any change.
    3.-You can check in the last stream that they want to take the GG problem.
    4.-I dont want to close any thread, you can repeat it 1000 times, Its not the truth.

    Behave is for all, including yourself, not only for the people you dont like.

    PS: for your info its not allowed to open double threads about the same topic within 30 days, and also Its not allowed to create petitions, but I didnt say it before. Keep your own closed mind ideas.

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums#/discussion/1191393/perfect-world-entertainment-community-rules-and-policies
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
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