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I have had it with server disconnects and being penalized

greenkrickettgreenkrickett Member Posts: 85 Arc User
Your servers really have been stinking lately. I get D/C about once every 30-60 minutes regardless of where I am in the game. yet while in pvp I get booted from my team (only hurts the team) and penalized even though I logged RIGHT BACK IN.


How hard is it to code letting players who get D/C to be able to get back in to their pvp match WITHOUT being kicked?

I can name MANY games that allow this WHY DONT YOU?????????

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  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    It worked here, too. Before Mod 6. Seriously, I know all the lame excuses, 'it is your PC', 'it is your internet connection', 'it is the internet' etc, BUT take a close look AT YOUR OWN POSTS. 'We have, log in issues, server issues, connectivity issues..'.

    There is not one week, when you dont have to take the blame and admit to a problem on your side, but players get penalized for your systems malefunction.

    Nowadays you have to hope for a stompfest, otherwise you will not see the end of a match bc of disconnects. Most fights nowadays end with XvY players and either X or Y and sometimes X and Y are not 5.

    The only 'good' thing about this system is, that you can leave a lost game after the game booted two of your party members.
    Chars: CW, DC, GF, GWF, HR and TR.
  • greenkrickettgreenkrickett Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    I am ALSO getting sick and tired of the d/c before the match begins and the system NOT REPLACING THEM, so you are down 4v5 before the match even starts. This games pvp is so broken and is the butt end of many mmos jokes.

    Now they want to introduce Strongholds which is even more pvp YET they cant even fix the broken pile of steaming HAMSTER they have now.
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    If the teammate gets kicked before the match... I have had a replacement added to the party. That happened once. We ended up winning the match because of this.
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  • cjh1983cjh1983 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 229 Arc User
    Your servers really have been stinking lately. I get D/C about once every 30-60 minutes regardless of where I am in the game. yet while in pvp I get booted from my team (only hurts the team) and penalized even though I logged RIGHT BACK IN.


    How hard is it to code letting players who get D/C to be able to get back in to their pvp match WITHOUT being kicked?

    I can name MANY games that allow this WHY DONT YOU?????????


    I was getting a bunch of dc's last week, restarted my router and now my connection is flawless.

    Have you done this? It doesn't seem like a problem in their server to me.
  • greenkrickettgreenkrickett Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    cjh1983 wrote: »
    Your servers really have been stinking lately. I get D/C about once every 30-60 minutes regardless of where I am in the game. yet while in pvp I get booted from my team (only hurts the team) and penalized even though I logged RIGHT BACK IN.


    How hard is it to code letting players who get D/C to be able to get back in to their pvp match WITHOUT being kicked?

    I can name MANY games that allow this WHY DONT YOU?????????


    I was getting a bunch of dc's last week, restarted my router and now my connection is flawless.

    Have you done this? It doesn't seem like a problem in their server to me.

    If it wasnt a problem with their servers why are there so many people having this issue?
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    They have admitted to part of the problem being their servers.
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  • yetweallfalldownyetweallfalldown Member Posts: 134 Arc User
    Hi Folks,

    Let me look into this some more. If I'm hearing this correctly, this is split into two different things:
    • Disconnects in PvP
    • Not re-filling the team after they have been disconnected

    It'll probably take me a little bit to get an answer as I'm chasing down some other things today, but I'll look into this.

    Alex
    Communications Manager - Perfect World Entertainment
  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    Hi Folks,

    Let me look into this some more. If I'm hearing this correctly, this is split into two different things:
    • Disconnects in PvP
    • Not re-filling the team after they have been disconnected

    It'll probably take me a little bit to get an answer as I'm chasing down some other things today, but I'll look into this.

    Alex

    while you are at it check the disconnect that happens when queue tries to move you while you are changing maps(dont know if it still happens though) like you accept, then transfer from, for example, PE to IWD, and queue tries to move you while you are loading IWD
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  • greenkrickettgreenkrickett Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    Hi Folks,

    Let me look into this some more. If I'm hearing this correctly, this is split into two different things:
    • Disconnects in PvP
    • Not re-filling the team after they have been disconnected

    It'll probably take me a little bit to get an answer as I'm chasing down some other things today, but I'll look into this.

    Alex

    I just accepted my pvp que and then left the area I was in (protectors Enclave to Drowned Shore) during that time it d/c me saying cant find that entity and when I logged back in I was in a pvp map but no team get booted and get penalized.

    This is your servers inability to handle certain situations, and needs to be fixed. This is probably what is happening to the ones I stated above.
  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    Is it so hard to not move anywhere after you've accepted the queue? Thats the easiest solution tbh.
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    This has been an issue for the entire duration of NCL, this and other reasons have tainted the actual results.
    The consequential loss that comes with the penalty after the dc needs to be fixed as well. How can you lose a match that you never entered?
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  • stah01stah01 Member Posts: 540 Arc User
    macjae wrote: »
    Hi Folks,

    Let me look into this some more. If I'm hearing this correctly, this is split into two different things:
    • Disconnects in PvP
    • Not re-filling the team after they have been disconnected

    It'll probably take me a little bit to get an answer as I'm chasing down some other things today, but I'll look into this.

    Alex

    The disconnects themselves aren't necessarily so much an issue as the fact that people get kicked automatically and take a queue penalty for being disconnected, without a chance of returning to the match. It should be possible to return to a match if you get momentarily disconnected for whatever reason.

    Didn't they implement this to fix the pvp kicking? Instead of removing the gm function that was being abused. And this also affected pve so if you get dc'd you get kicked.

    Should always get a period of time to come back to your group.

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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    In PvE, if you dc, you stay in the party. Unless you get kicked before you come back. To be kicked, we have figured out that all you need is a 50% vote to kick.
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    Leadership Council of Civil Anarchy
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  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    drkbodhi wrote: »
    In PvE, if you dc, you stay in the party. Unless you get kicked before you come back. To be kicked, we have figured out that all you need is a 50% vote to kick.

    You stay in the party in PvE and PvP, but you reenter in different instances. While you get kicked from a instance in PvE and reenter, in PvP you will get kicked from the instance and your party and get the leavers penalty.

    Chars: CW, DC, GF, GWF, HR and TR.
  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    I do hate it
    but
    They have bigger fish to fry... like balance

    Urlord
  • hoofithoofit Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 122 Arc User
    All they need to do is add a time limit to get back into pvp if disconnected till they fix the issue.
  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    I don't like it... but I really hate my team believing I am a leaver

    It penalty is just insult to injury

    Urlord
  • kvetkvet Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    If you remove the penalty for people who accidentally DC but keep it for people who simply quit the match, to quit a match you simply have to log out of the game (or close the client, or run /ipconfig release then /ipconfig renew and log back in). Then, you'll be right back here complaining that people quit matches by disconnecting and it's ruining PvP. So, which way do you want it?
  • vladious1977vladious1977 Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    kvet wrote: »
    If you remove the penalty for people who accidentally DC but keep it for people who simply quit the match, to quit a match you simply have to log out of the game (or close the client, or run /ipconfig release then /ipconfig renew and log back in). Then, you'll be right back here complaining that people quit matches by disconnecting and it's ruining PvP. So, which way do you want it?

    Why would someone DC to come back to a match? This is the argument. People who get DCed want to come BACK to the match instead of getting autobooted. This is accomplished in MANY online games where you can come back if you get DCed. This is the way we want it. Someone just DCing to leave is not going to want to come back.

    Nice troll try though. You gain +1 experience in trolling.
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