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Hello, I have put in hundreds of dollars in this game. When i first got this game and started my guild I was so excited about the game play. When playing this game i was so frusterated that we could only max out on 500 poeple in guild. With the 500 poeple in guild this did not give my guild the potentual it could have. I had to take a small break do to work and now that i had come back to game and find out we were downsized. What the heck is going on here ? Neverwinter is a Roleplay game based off the card game DND. Its advertized as such. And with this downsize, there is no such thing as a good guild now. Even with 300+ accounts in my guild which is double max I only have 2 poeple logged in right now. Checkign who to boot ? Everyone logged in with in the past 6 months... Cant boot anyone ? When did Neverwinter, The game that I loved drop into pvp and so far out of the roleplay environment ? AND OMG !! WTF ARE THEY THINKING ??? I cant stay and pay more money for this HAMSTER. I refuse to make a dozen guilds and jump between them. Its unfair to my members......... I am so puzzled. I hate not having the control to fix things and this sux that I am powerless to stop such madness...
I was so excited to hear about the strongholds coming out. But the more i learn the more i learn that they are goign to be more based off PVP guilds. ANd also, I perfer to have my Limit back, Doubled ! instead of these worthless strongholds...
Sorry nevewinter, You have let me down.
I was so excited to hear about the strongholds coming out. But the more i learn the more i learn that they are goign to be more based off PVP guilds. ANd also, I perfer to have my Limit back, Doubled ! instead of these worthless strongholds...
Sorry nevewinter, You have let me down.
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and here i was enjoying my awesome guild that has 31 account
You will be considered a large guild... which is 150+ accounts.
Read more about the PvP related to Strongholds. DO NOT speculate that the sky is falling, there has been more than enough of that negativity. The PvP is to be consensual... like the other PvP styles that you have to queue for.
You DO NOT need to reduce your accounts.
You will have to reduce your # of accounts IF you want new members.
Some larger guilds are splitting off into sister-guilds with similar names. They are creating special guild chats that are open to those guilds and guild friends.
You're a bit too late for that, he already did. :P
BTW OP, if you want guild to have 1k account limit, most of the smaller guilds will die and be forced to merge with the larger ones instead of being left behind.
I know this is not "your" problem if they will lose their guild, but think of what's happening now as not being "their" problem too. You're not the only player in the game.
PS. i dont think cryptic isn't threatened much if a single player threatens to cut his spending if he doesn't get his way. (especially if his way goes against many others)
This is an attempt to help even the "playing field" between large and small guilds as experience in Star Trek Online (Strongholds are "Starbases" over there) shows that it is a ridiculously high advantage for larger fleets (Guilds) because people want into the large fleets that already have large Starbases (Strongholds).
Now the large fleets are exploiting players by demanding the "pay" to join up and no one wants to join smaller fleets = disadvantage to new fleet (guild) startups. It feeds on itself in a bad way.
Neverwinter Devs are trying to avoid some of this by limiting the size of any single guild so the gap between small guilds and large guilds isn't too large.
NOTE: I am only explaining WHY they are doing it. Whether you (a general "you" meaning everyone reading this) feel this is fair or not doesn't matter in the context of my explanation.
Actually: PvP is a very small part of Strongholds. If Strongholds turns out anything like STO "Starbases" then RP will be strong as they cater to that greatly - far better than any other part of the game. What makes it worth it: Guild versions of gear and mounts. Wait and see.
In short, you don't need to kick anyone out from your guild. You don't need to pvp if you don't want to. But, if your guildees want to pvp, they can. The only thing that affects your guild is: you cannot add more member.
Since your guild is already 500 strong, your guild already have advantage over the new guilds.
As mentioned, pvp is only a portion of Stronghold. I expect there are more PVE content than PVP.
I expect contribution to the stronghold coffer (to help building the stronghold) is like contribution to WoD coffer (to give better reward to whoever fighting Timat).
You might do VERY well in Strongholds as long as you do not feel the need to add more members or characters.
It might be wiser to create a sister guild and create a combined guild chat channel. That way... you could add more members and more characters to both guilds. Trust me... at your size... people will be wanting to join you.
With Civil Anarchy we have almost 150 accounts, but only 350, or so, characters. So we can all add more characters and we have to be VERY selective on new members.
What you say is true about strongholds, but this update does appear to put solo players (those not interested in guilds) at a disadvantage as these types of players will not have access to several of the "stronghold only" things mentioned in this thread. This is the main part of strongholds that I do not like. Player-based housing/keeps/castles would have been far superior and a great AD dump as well.
Runescape did a perfect job with player housing, albeit with kind of crappy graphics inherent in its browser-style format.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
ideally its a way to articially increase mod 7 life and reduce big guild dominance.
I think that really depends on the player. I'm a solo-er, and I'm really happy to see the guilds getting some love. I don't run dungeons because of illness that makes me often want to take a break and walk away from the pc at random times. It also means that my mood changes rapidly to a point where I just want to be left alone. I think it's unfair on others (guild/group) to have to put up with the problems of my health. And I'm fine with my own company, and love noodling around and getting into scrapes that are over my head!
I realise therefore that the best gears are not really an attainable goal for me, so concentrate on getting the best stuff that I can (within reason). To be honest, I would much prefer more interesting transmutable armour choices and story/quest driven content.
For me, Strongholds seems like an excellent idea to give guilds something to aim for, and hope it works out well. Some of the stuff (HE's, progression building) would be things I would be most interested in doing myself, and do hope that in future they bring that to a player housing type context. As an adventurer of several decades now, I would like my own inn (as all good veteran adventurers should!).
I think the only real downer for me is that mod 6 lacked so much in good story driven, progression questing; along with hardly anything in relation to campaign progression and rewards. Hopefully the design team have learned from that, and the Underdark will bring that back for me. Hopefully...
But for now, all power to the guilds - I hope Strongholds works out really well for them.
I respect your good attitude for sure and agree with much of what you said.
Player-specific housing would have been so very cool, and a great AD dump. Can you imagine designing your own castle? Designing your own dungeon underneath your castle? Building a battle ring in your castle for free-for-all PvP action among your friends? Player-owned housing is an absolute blast and includes ability to invite friends inside as well. It also becomes more personal - feels more like the true D&D game than guild strongholds to me. But, meh, that's my opinion. Sigh . . .
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Oh my goodness, yes! That's why I'd like an inn - you could invite people along to drink ale, sing songs, and have a good old bar fight at the end of the evening! Just as long as you remember to pay your tab...
limit is fine. be more selective who you invite.
you said only 2 people on? #ffs remove inactives and try again.
So much content, so much gameplay there... i really dont want to be rude but neverwinter is a mmo not the sims. Im glad i have something to do with friends that can partecipate do the develop of the castle rather than having an inn a stable and drinking tea. Where is the content there?
Do you know also what Neverwinter is that The Sims isn't? An rpg. I'm glad you have something to do with your friends - but that still doesn't preclude me having something to do with mine within the same game.