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huntajack1334
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Sooooo .... dream team comming to CO (if I read it all correctly)
Now I am left wondering what the road ahead is going to look like for CO?
As we all (most) know the reason CO is still running (mind you them hamsters are getting tired) is due to being the only game of its kind on the market. (NO! we don't count DCUO compared to CO it doesnt offer the same potential.(this is all in jest but you probly get my point))
Now with other games comming to compete with CO, what's the plan? How will they try to move ahead?
Speculations, idea's, discussions lets have it
Now I am left wondering what the road ahead is going to look like for CO?
As we all (most) know the reason CO is still running (mind you them hamsters are getting tired) is due to being the only game of its kind on the market. (NO! we don't count DCUO compared to CO it doesnt offer the same potential.(this is all in jest but you probly get my point))
Now with other games comming to compete with CO, what's the plan? How will they try to move ahead?
Speculations, idea's, discussions lets have it
There's always SOMETHING going wrong SOMEWHERE
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we have an announcement on an experienced person being in charge
Only that some people at Cryptic HQ will be working on the game.
No mention of full time, part time, spare time or how many.
and what other games coming to compete?
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This artical http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/champions-online/news/detail/9131593-champions-online-returning-to-cryptic-studios-in-los-gatos%2C-california Yes one very experienced person will be in charge combined with the and I quote : "returning to its original development studio in Los Gatos, California" so team with a very capable lead.
And you should read my jest between the lines, mostly CO is one of the few high customized hero games on the market at the moment.(And be honest here off the top of your head, how many high customization MMO hero games can you name that are still alive now?)
There was the city of titans project, and valiants online. Granted both are in limbo at the moment, but valiants already has an alpha.
I use to chit chat with Arkayne all the time. I know that he personally has a passion for Champions, and would love to do something with it. But there is one little hang up right there; resources. Champions pulls in enough to keep the lights on and justify new costumes and once a year updates, as we've seen already, but a lot has to be done with Champions to get it up to par, not just simply adding five new missions once a year, before it even starts to make waves. And that kind of investment, if it doesn't pay off, could result in Champions Online closing its doors.
What type of investment would I be talking about? Let's be frank, Champions needs a near ground up over haul of its engines, its mechanics, its graphics and even its ambiance. They need to make a game now, instead of trying to remake WoW with super heroes, and they need to also provide tools for the player base (not necessarily the foundry) to grow the community as a whole. They need to expand and grow what we have, they need to fix and repair they need to provide that group content, rework how group mechanics work as a whole, and make things like being support or tank feel like less of a chore but a fun activity. They need to provide way more group content, and not this lobby style Alerts system that basically ruins the rest of the game but actual, decent team experience.
While you might jest, DCUO only survives on virtue that the consoles keep it alive. DCUO content is made on the consoles first then ported over to the PC, hence why the PC updates always seem so lackluster. While some may argue that the customization of a character is in their costume, DCUO also provides very little customization in character sliders. However, where DCUO absolutely thrived and CO flopped at, was the fact that character builds feel many times more customizable than they do in Champions. Honestly, I feel the powers system needs a ground up redo, and of course new power sets, mechanics handled differently (such as making healers more AE centered instead of target centered). I like healing but I prefer to be proactive instead of reactive laying down barriers or healing fields or the like, things City of players probably would prefer instead of the current watching health bars mechanics we have now.
While both of these projects are out there, Titans so far has the stink of bait and switch over it, and Valiance, looks less and less like a spiritual successor of CoH and more like an exact rip off of CoH. And what little I have actually played of the alpha of Valiance has done little to impress or remove that feeling that they lifted, whole cloth, all the animation and some art files from CoH. Even their mascot is a veritable clone of Statesman, and it makes me sad.
In closing, I don't feel that we will see entirely big things. We might see more than Cryptic North provided, but as I said, I use to talk with Arkayne a lot back during the games launch, some in beta, and when Vibora Bay was being tested. He has a passion for Champions. But I won't pretend the budget or resources are there for him to use. It would be a big risk, and one this player base would have to come to terms with, if Cryptic takes that risk, the cost of it not panning out could be. So I would have to caution people saying these things need to happen, are you willing to pay that price if it doesn't pan out?
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CO being moved to the main Cryptic Studios location and people who have previously worked on it does not guarantee anything in the way of resources being spent.
Expect status quo to be maintained. That's the easiest way not to be disappointed when that's all that happens.
I was gonna post Thelma and Louise pic but i guess this'll do...
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No, and personally, wish you would stop quoting me one second and then contradicting it later, and instead just ignore my posts like you brag about ignoring me in game. Would be a lot better all around.
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yes that article. read it.
where in it does it say how many people are on the team?
Here's what I've got from the two messages and other bits lately,
1. CN who were working on CO are now working on NW- PC or console.
2. There has been no mention of any people being taken off the other 2 games for CO. Only ditching a few to even up the TWO teams.
3.It doesn't take much effort to keep CO going.(from the messages about people fired from the other two teams)
4. There is no mention of how many people on that article, only that he will head the team. Well a team can be 2 people.
5. There is no mention of whether the 'team' will be working fulltime, parttime or sparetime.
6. If it was more than CN, you can be sure there would be a third article stating the increase but there is none.
AS I said, read what's actually there. A PR /Marketing message about 1 person(with the obligatory advertisement for NW) and that CO is being handled by HQ again.
That is, two messages designed to make it sound good but leaving out details, like the team numbers.
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I'm sincerely hoping that's not going to happen - but I'm not holding my breath.
- David Brin, "Those Eyes"
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I and many others are more than willing to let Cryptic take that risk. But that is if they really try. Like a "that isn't like Cryptic at all" kind of try. Like a genuine, real attempt to revitalize the game.
Its an all or nothing kind of thing. If they aren't going to go the full distance with a revitalization attempt and just give up part way or mess up in obvious ways that sabotages it, then I rather not see them try at all.
You did not read it correctly.
This likely doesn't mean as much as people think it does, in either direction.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
I love that your "leap of faith" is heart-powered.
Can interpret that pic to mean many things. Leap of Faith, End of the Road, a Construction Project that was never finished. Part of me does wish Cryptic would take that leap of faith though and put resources in to Champions to rebuild it and give it a proper MMO imagining. I and many know Cryptic can do a lot more, but they've been very gunshy lately. They've had to do so much with so little before, it's why I am sad with the recent plot line turn outs, even if its the best they could do with so little.
This game should have a lot more to it. It's shocking that 4 live MMOs and all the ones still in production, none of them really get what makes a super heroes, super heroes, and all they've been at best is just bad guy beat em ups, and it's even weirder that Cryptic would neglect the social aspects of this game which is what made CoH so popular.
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I don't know whether to give that one, 1 point for the joke or 2points for adding the emotes
or
the large blue thing jumping ship.
the cookie van is under there and he's ambushing it.
he couldn't find the right picture , so he posted that one.
victim of mind control: go jump off the bridge. Yes my love.
tried Rank 4 of superspeed and ran into a problem or more precisely, out of a map
trying for the long distance jump record.
The Vet is after him
The owner of the female blue thing, he's just been... visiting, is after him
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I KNEW IT! Brou's secret power is the ability to crap out roads!
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Epic Stronghold
Block timing explained
Bring all the chains and tape!!! hold him!!! Don't let him go away!!
*Pulls out net launcher and aims*
*Rolls a 1*
*Net launcher explodes and sanguine is hopelessly tangled in the net, and on fire.*
Snark never dies.
It's good to be back.
Real glad to see you around again!
Quick, get that ball thingy from The Prisoner.
[throws Pok
They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
The Champions PnP game uses 3d6. You cannot roll a single 1, and even if you could you want to roll low. The lower the better.
Now if you had said you rolled an 18....catastrophic.
:biggrin:
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
...I took Stun from that explanation. :biggrin:
You've GOT to stop buying from Acme.
Wait a moment.... I KNOW YOU! Your the one that told me to shut up on the forumites channel.
I tell you now. Nepht never forgets. Nepht never forgives. I see you in game I will fish slap you into next year.
Be yea warned!
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
* target in sight*
* aim Foxbat Glue ball gun[Tm]*
* roll 18*
* shiiiiiitt.... glue Nepth and Smackwell together*
* plant the evidence on Jonsills*
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*realize that's Toon, not Champions*
*hope the GM doesn't notice until it's too late*
- David Brin, "Those Eyes"
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Oh man, I never played Toon, but the idea sounded very cool.
Toon's a great game. Well worth a quick play if you love old Warner Bros. cartoons.
Toon gets pretty wild sometimes.
- David Brin, "Those Eyes"
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Some of us Shadowrun vets still have flashbacks to rolling {every 6-sided die in Caesar's Palace}D6 in a turn. At least give us a trigger warning or something! :biggrin:
They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
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30d6 athletics with Adept pool.
any dice roll with variable advantage attached to it.This is one from Felicity in PnP
nergy blast 10d6, var advantages +1/2(+1),
+1/4 add: (limted adds) megascale 1"=1km, autofire(2-3) variable special effects(any elemental efect) (1/2 End), no range modifier, increased range (x5)
+1/2 adv: o end, autofire(4-5), AOE(1 hex) , affects desolidified, penetrating, exlosion, LOS. sticky, var special effects(Page 96), AP.
yes she could a energy blast several miles wides or with megascale flight up to give megascale sight, a ground to orbit strike.
oh, code vs killing strong.
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I'm FX artist on Champions. I've been tasked to Neverwinter since the game moved to Cryptic North, (though I did things like Telepathy and Laser Sword thereafter; some of the Auras were also mine), and I'm really excited to have a chance to make some new stuff for this game, because I am an enormous comics nerd.
He just has little hands.
Welcome back, good luck.
psst...any advances on the water power attempts?
He means that he reads comics and is nine feet tall. A truly enormous comic nerd.
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
Edit: And yay! Splosions is home too! Now if we could just beam Tumerboy back from STO...
- David Brin, "Those Eyes"
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What, like carnies? Circus folk? Smell like cabbage, small hands? :eek:
I'm cautiously optimistic!!!
One it's so exciting to hear from you Splosions! Like really exciting.... :biggrin:
On the other hand I want to temper my expectations - so that they are realistic.
I think a lot of us just want some sort of realistic and grounded official response from PWE/Cryptic about the state of the game.. and what the basic plans are.
Maybe there aren't any or things are still up in the air. But even knowing that would make a lot of players feel better. At least I think it would.. hard to tell with this cantankerous bunch!!!
Ebay,
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html/_W0QQ_sopZ12?_nkw=giant%20comic%20books&_fromfsb=0&_trksid=m270.l1313
also actually being told we have a team, as opposed to the one person advertised or is he the designated target for any attacks?
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