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Make all cosmics work the way Mega Destroid does.
spinnytop
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With a timer, and with nobody needing to be grouped to get in on the rewards, everyone getting a chance at the rewards no matter how much dps they contributed so long as they tagged the boss at some point, and with the boss appearing frequently throughout the day. Simple, benefits every single person involved, no downsides for anyone.
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But out of curiosity, does mega destroyer drop its unique device for non-topscore-players? If it still drops it at all since On Alert that is.
It (theoretically) works that way with Takofanes, too, during Blood Moons.
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1.) more HP to off set (potentially) more player attacks
2.) Drop rate stays similar to now (maybe a little higher) to prevent people from one and done for drops. For replay purposes.
Is it that Mega-D stomp thing?
Takofanes is not only theoretically, deathlord on the other hand only drops the AF for the top score. I don't think we can extrapolate those to the "destroids rise again" open world mission.
No, you get that from the perk for killing a certain number of mega destroids in the resistance AP.
The unique device from the open world mission mega destroyer is the "portable robot factory".
Definitely this. That said I've always been a fan of cosmics that stray a good distance from their origin location so that would be cool too.
And yes, G. Crush went on a rampage and made an awful lot of the game's content utterly irrelevant.
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That's really annoying. I wouldn't mind seeing this change, but I'd also love a review of drops. Even if we can't get the devices restored - it would be nice if the open world cosmics dropped useful items and gear.
That was one really nice thing about the Mechanon event - some of the gear and temp devices you could get, for running it.
Well that's depressing to hear.
Which is exactly what will happen with the Kiga drops. But hey, just keep whining.
Back before the nerf, the Portable Robotic Factory from the Destroids Rise Again OM was only dropped for the top scorer. Same with the Lemurian Amulet of the Predator from the Water Hazards OM and the Chimeral Potions from the Burden of the Beastmen OM. Yes I know from having several of them on multiple toons, all scoring in 1st place. Yes, I am elitist scum or whatever for not letting others have a shot at 1st place. :rolleyes:
Never did get the Pirated Override Codes from Plunder of the Sea despite farming that for months. Thanks Crush. :mad:
Judging by some of your comments and the lack of seeing you in any one of 1000's of alerts, I'm not even sure you play this game.
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...that is if you are referring to Mega Destroid Invasion.
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Considering we're talking about content that occurs outside of alerts... I find this an ironic statement.
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I mean Mega Destroid in M-City. i.e. content where anyone can walk up, start shooting at the thing, and get some sort of reward for participating, with a visible timer so everybody knows when it's going to start.
I don't really care much for how the points system works, just so long as we get rid of the ridiculous parts of the encounter.
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Kagami is very Ronald McDonald-esque.
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Honestly, this thread makes me want them to put the OM Rewards back in the game more than anything else. That would actually have a much larger affect on the game IMO. So yeah, let's do that please. :biggrin:
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^ I'm not concerned about this. Or, to be more specific, I am infinitely less concerned with this than I am with people showing up and not being able to participate. People who score higher having a higher chance is fine, just so long as everybody gets a roll.
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Unfortunately, I think this idea has a few flaws. Such as, the location of the encounter should be moved over to Slither beach. More of the same things need to be added in each of the stages. And, it culminates w/ you fighting Telieosaur AND Qwyjibo, not Telieos (who would be trimmed out, imo, and therefore some of the story would be trimmed too).
The way I'd work the Teleiosaur + Qwyjibo fight is: you are helping Qwyjibo to down Teleiosaur. After T is down, now Q is fully enraged by his injection that you have to put him down. Or vice versa.
Or something like: you have to make sure Teleiosaur gets defeated BEFORE Qwyjibo goes down, else the encounter fails. You would still have to fight Qwyjibo if you did down T first.
My primary reason for this thought is, I always enjoyed seeing T and Q in the Open World pathing toward each other for another fight. That was GREAT to see. I don't think I ever saw one defeat the other, as they would eventually just separate and go back to their "usual" path.
Another flaw with this idea is that now neither T nor Q would be roaming MI any more. This, I believe is a minor issue as most of us never see them this way, any ways, any more.
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Outside of the reduced timer, what you're asking for isn't clear. It also ignores that when people say "cosmics" they mean "Kiga" and it's not about being able to participate, but getting his costume bits.
Most people don't leave MC as it is and I suspect the only reason Mega D gets attention is because he's right next to the RenCen. Does anyone bother with Grond anymore? Or is he not a cosmic?
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As I just said... :biggrin:
Putting the devices back in is something I can get behind. But the problem is that how does Cryptic determine the drop criteria? Sounds like the code is still based off the top scorer and that won't sit well with the entitlement crowd as we have already proven.
I thought the drifter salvage store was to be the way to get the old legacy devices back into the game but that seems to have been yet another abandoned system. The choice Cryptic made of giving players only a chance at the device they want was probably not the best decision as it had to have a chilling effect on sales.
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It's the one place I'm SURE I can see these 2.
I think that totem pole puts you into current crisis que, just as it does at the MC jet.
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I don't like this, because it has the opposite effect of what I'm looking for. The more people that show up, the less a chance you have of getting the thing... suddenly we're back to where we were.
Much simpler: Top three ranked spot get a somewhat higher chance, 4th and below all get the same moderate chance. Min-maxers still get their feel of accomplishment, everyone else still gets a fair shot, even if they are a healer or a supporter or a tank.
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It's plenty clear if you read what I typed.
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It sounds like everyone should get a shot at the non-existent good drops based on DPS, but you're giving conflicting information in your posts.
The three scenarios I listed are how your posts can be interpreted. So, no, it's not clear.
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Stop interpreting (i.e. adding things I didn't type) and just read the post, and everything will become clear. I know you really want to argue against anything that changes this part of the game in any way, but I'm not going to respond to the things you imagine about what I'm trying to say.
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Also i'd rather see global messages in the zone to hint at the spawn (I am Takofanes blah blah) than a bold timer.
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Also I'm pretty sure it's not impossible to also implement a code to detect if a player does nothing but use their EB in the fight to cheese their way to a reward, or if all they do is just fire off one or two shots to tag the cosmic then do nothing for the rest of the fight.
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Or not, because of how biased the game is towards the DPS mechanic and how damage-tracking discriminates against people that don't build towards DPS.
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And it's something I don't agree with, hence my suggestions for something more lucrative for global participation regardless of role, and not just DPS spam,
Perhaps we could move the DPS challenge into another mission: the idea of being #1 is appealing to some and not having a reward for it is kinda like, meh what is the point.
So I would like to see maybe both set up in some sort of fashion. Perhaps the reward could be in the form of Globals or a new mission type altogether. Maybe hero games...DPS wars? But as far as a costume drop I feel it should be just like any other costume drop.
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I don't argue against anything that changes this part of the game here. Having the Cosmic timers all around the same is a good thing. There is no reason why some are 6 hours and some are 1.5 hours. Everything you say after that is unclear.
Making Cosmics like Mega D (what you say in the title) means stripping out good rewards, replacing them with crap, and giving out that crap based on the DPS done. With only the highest DPS person getting the best crap.
First you say:
Which says everyone gets a reward based on pure RNG no matter how much damage they contribute.
After that you say:
Which is also different. This would mean that everyone gets a chance at the same drops, but those with higher DPS have a bonus chance. It's part DPS based and part RNG based.
Finally there is:
This is rewards based on DPS brackets. And maybe RNG within brackets. But if you aren't in a certain bracket, you don't have a shot at certain prizes. Not pure RNG and not top DPS only gets the top prize.
You presented 4 different ways to distribute the rewards. Which makes what you want unclear.
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I would want a deadman vest drop rate. Still very rare