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gradii
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A while back some of you may remember i was having trouble with a player constantly harassing me, and following me EVERYWHERE even while anon, completely dedicated to making me miserable.
Guess what. it still has not ended.
I don't need to name him here as many of you remember who it was before the name was edited out.
this has to end. I've reported him with screenshots and video evidence yet our good for nothing GM twiddles his fingers and does NOTHING.
I can't go on like this. either he stops, he gets banned, or I quit the game, no longer able to bear the torture.
and since I don't plan on the latter I hope someone here can get our GM to do his job.
Guess what. it still has not ended.
I don't need to name him here as many of you remember who it was before the name was edited out.
this has to end. I've reported him with screenshots and video evidence yet our good for nothing GM twiddles his fingers and does NOTHING.
I can't go on like this. either he stops, he gets banned, or I quit the game, no longer able to bear the torture.
and since I don't plan on the latter I hope someone here can get our GM to do his job.
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just keep sending in ticket after ticket till they respond, they will eventually
Just roll with it or retreat to your penthouse and sip a pina colada :cool:
While it's usually best to keep a stiff upper lip and try to be as unattractive target as possible for trolls, the onus on any act of bullying, cyber or otherwise, is on the bully, never the target. And trolling may be a bellweather for more serious psychological conditions, if the recent study conducted by the University of Manitoba is correct (as it's only a single study, more research is required).
http://www.theguardian.com/science/head-quarters/2014/feb/25/internet-trolls-are-also-real-life-trolls
The study assesses the "dark tetrad" traits, which are considered subclinical, so it's a bit of a leap to extrapolate it to "more serious psychological conditions"
Lets interact with the tailor, or the vendor, or the power selector. Well the window closed because the troll moved me. Gotta start over. Oh, they moved me again while trying to move back to the NPC to try and open the window.
I think repeated offenses like this and proof of these issues should resolve in perma banning.
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Except moan about cleavage ina game with a "breast slider".
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Unless you are happy with paying customers chased away from your game by trolls.
This slowly goes beyond ridiculous, lol.
OP: I can understand the situation you are in. Had one myself, even an entire SG of trolls follow me because I, and I quote: "refused to die in a RP fight due to god moding my character". My rule of such: If you god mode first, I'll do it right back. I have an entire SG on ignore and over time they grew bored of me because I refused to even acknowledge they existed. They found a new target to which I've seen them actually get banned for harassing players as a whole.
If you want some results, from experience to get someone reported is to file a petition of the problem and have as many people you can get support this one ticket and it gets pulled through and actually looked at real GM eyes. Even PM someone like TT to forward the message to get the GMs attention about the problem.
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This has actually happened to us in the past, We reported the person in question (quietly) and provided screenshots, to which they replied the screenshots were invalid because they weren't taken in-game and told us to 'gather evidence in-game,' which is fairly difficult to do and very frustrating.
Considering the level of stalking and harassment We faced, it was a very irritating thing to be told "These screenshots can't be accepted because you uploaded them to a different site to host them.," especially since the game really kind of hampers your ability to collect evidence against said abusers.
It's no surprise, though. What are you expecting them to do? Their jobs? Pfft.
Seriously though, sorry to hear you had/are having to go through that. All We can really suggest is to completely ignore the person; don't respond AT ALL. People around you will figure things out, they'll figure out who the real 'bad guy' in the situation is. Especially when someone's stalking and harassing you and you're saying/doing absolutely nothing in response.
Gradii's done that tons of times already, that's why they're complaining. This troll, from what I've heard, is apparently best buds with our "GM."
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I almost find it funny reading this thread, sorry man but that's the truth. As an avid PvP'er I want to tell you to get a grip.
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We're talking about a stalker here, not a troll.
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No, I've seen this firsthand and it's not 'payback' trolling. This player seeks them out and harasses them repeatedly.
It's been pointed out hundreds of times that 'ignoring it' doesn't work. Why some of the playerbase fails to see that is beyond me, my only theory is that you condone this behavior.
The GM is not doing their job. I have reported a roleplayer that openly has pedophilia-related infromation in their bio at least five or six times. I have seen NOTHING done about this. I honestly tell people from other games that the reason there are so many perverts and degenerates in CO is because the GM's are more worried about turning Zone Chat into 4Chan and CO doesn't want to lose a buck or two by banning players.
It's especially sad when I see GM's muting people for petulant things in NW and STO, or even those GM's taking an active role in policing the chat. This sort of thing does nothing but reinforce the theory that Cryptic doesn't care about CO. It's so obvious, it's in your face.
As a paying customer of the game, I can tell you right now that statements like this are why I don't care if they bury PvP forever in this game and PvP content never sees the light of day. I've never seen a bigger batch of toxic manchildren in my life- and I've met Transformer Neckbeards.
This should be required reading for posting on this thread. A few of you need to read it right away. Please do.
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Wow....didn't know you can do that, that sucked
That explains a lot -_-
First of all I mean "ACTUALLY" ignoring them not just clicking a button to ignore someone. I don't ignore anyone, for all the time lucidity played the game I never ignored them once by clicking the game thing. Of course ignoring someone doesn't work fully as you can still see them standing infront of you. So why not do the same as you have to with a lot of people in real life and just physically ignore them.
About this entire thing of him not being a troll (so the entire not giving attention (which you are giving him a lot) thing may not resolve the issue) but a "stalker." I don't understand, why is he "stalking" dazee for? Is he in love? ;D You said he isn't annoyed about anything... I'm pretty sure he's just doing it because he gets a reaction from you. Oh wait, that's trolling.
The paedophilia incident isn't something I can measure for myself as I've never seen this particular persons bio cybersoldier1981. If it is pretty graphic and generally illegal in any way then this certainly should of been something Navi should of dealt with.
Oh also cyber I really don't care if you are a paying customer in the game, doesn't make a difference to your argument here one bit. My statement was just saying that you need to build up a defence against people such as this generally in real life as well as online. The fact me telling dazee to get a grip (my personal opinion on the mater) got you to the point of saying PvP should be buried even more worries me dearly.
I could imagine it ruining your experience for someone to follow you everywhere constantly not saying anything just standing there looking ugly without you able to do anything about it. But I don't really see how this is bannable.
Dazee please explain the situation and how exactly it is bannable.
If he follows you into areas with hostile NPC's have tried killing him by somehow luring NPC's onto him whenever he comes near you yet?
Just saying guys not everyone has the same opinion on certain situations so stop going crazy over me speaking my opinion.
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At this point they either don't think that action is necessary, or that it doesn't benefit them to ban the player either because of monetary reasons or personal relationship with the player doing the harassing.
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Now, if you can "just ignore it" when someone systematically prevents you from accessing the tailor, the bank, or any vendors, and physically interferes with your attempts to play non-instanced content (and potentially prevents you from entering instanced content - some of those doors are pretty narrow), well, I can only envy the state of satori you've achieved. Few of us are quite so zen as that.
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That's only if you categorize sadism as subclinical, which many do not. Sadism often has comorbidity with many other more serious psychological disorders, which I believe was the point of the article.
Look at all these pages of posts, discussing the harassers favorite topic.. himself (or herself).
Gradii keep reporting him or send private emails to any game mods you know asking for help. Heck write a formal complaint letter if you must and snail mail to Cryptic's offices.
But stop showing in public how much this guy is upsetting you. Because by doing so you are giving him exactly what he wants. Validation that his tactics are working.
More than likely he is reading this thread and enjoying the stir he's causing. A big reaction feeds people like this. The strongest way to retaliate is not give him any signs he's bugging you. Resist the urge to communicate with him or talk publicly about him. Do keep reporting him for the harassment.
Just remember, every time you give him some indication he's having an effect on you, you are making him happy.
Why in the world would you want to make him happy?
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I don't know about you but when someone constantly and physically gets in my face in real life with the intention of just being an abusive a-hole I sure as hell am not going to just stand there and take it. If it's a guy doing it I'll knee in him the gonads with all of my strength, and it doesn't take a lot of it to make it really hurt. There is no "ignoring" someone in such a situation. This is the exact same thing gradii is going through. It's still physical harassment even in a virtual sense. You could try to be a little bit more empathic.
Gradii, what I would suggest is to contact PW support directly and not rely on ingame reporting. It might also help to go over to the NWN forum and make you case there. The GMs there look to be very active. Explain that the GMs in CO haven't been doing anything to address the harassment and that you feel that you have no other option.
You do realize that inaction on PWE / Cryptic's part is exactly why gradii feels that it's necessary to reach out to the community?
He has a point though. If Gradii looks at this rationally, he'd realize quickly that this is only guaranteeing that the person in question will continue to harass him for a much longer time than he would otherwise. What is the community going to do? Harrass the individual back? They would probably just derive yet more satisfaction from getting such a reaction out of an even larger number of people.
I disagree with Gradii a lot, but the last thing I would want to see is for him to motivate this guy so much that he literally never stops, ever. It's entirely possible that the guy is still doing it specifically because of Gradii's continued reactions.
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I would second those suggestions. You have to snap one part of the company into action since its apparent this one isn't properly policing. If you could get screens, chat logs, a video, and/or referrals to threads like this it can all help ur cause when you make the appeal.
- Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
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Now THAT is actually bannable as it is using things and effects in the game to affect another player to make the game unplayable. If he is actually using teleport to move you away from NPC's and using a super sizer making it impossible to see anything usually navi will actually look into banning. He has done before for this kind of thing. The way dazee is making it sound to me is just following and using emotes / devices not so much actually using teleport to move another players character or impede another players sight.
Lol.
Also about the thing of "I wouldn't just stand there and take it" so why doesn't dazee do something about it to take things into their own hands. Not saying he uses anything even more illegal game wise but there are ways to troll much harder than it sounds like this guy is doing.
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You have a youtube meaning you most likely are capable of recording stuff. Why not record the most "bannable" things and send it to Navi in person as soon as you see him on. Of course he'll probably say "could be edited" or something stupid.
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's (starting from post nerf PTS team duels)
Reaching out to a Navi isn't going to work. Contact customer service through email again and again linking to the video until action is involved.
Honestly, if this kind of behavior in game is not dealt with by GM's, then I hope every potential player that reads through the forums sees this out in the open and reconsiders spending that Sub fee or those few extra bucks to move onto a new game. No matter how 'fun' a game is, it's not worth it if the game's full of harassment and no one does anything.
It's amazing I can get a 'hate speech' ticket for saying I hate a fictional thing in 24 hours, though.
Honestly, Gradii- I think you should go start a thread on NW and STO and ask if their GM's respond to harassment tickets and how effective it is, because you are having problems in CO. If you want someone to smell the stink, take a dump where there's more people.
The length of ingame time and time spent on the message board are separate.
Human decency shouldn't stop when you go online.
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NW I thinks the amount of times you post in other threads.
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Sorta true and sorta not true.
We handled our stalker silently and well, nothing was done about it. Cryptic has a crap reputation and is a horrible company; they've done everything they could to earn that terrible reputation. We were lucky enough that the person stalking us seems to have finally gotten bored with it and given it up, the harassment seemed to peeter out and eventually they seemed to leave the game. Admittedly, We haven't been in-game ourselves for several months, so that may contribute to it.
In this case, poor Gradii has done everything they can try at their disposal (as We ourselves did) to rectify the situation and end the abuse, however absolutely nothing has worked, and this is because Cryptic has the wonderful endearing little habit of ignoring the crap out of their Customers and refusing to actually operate as a respectable company.
In this interest We suspect, this thread's purpose isn't to bring attention to the harasser or anything like that, but to bring attention to the Community and public, because Cryptic will have a lot harder time ignoring things and deal with a lot more PR backlash from consciously ignoring something that has now been presented in their faces, publicly.