We're pleased to announce that the new Arc website and client are now in Public Beta!
Check out the Champions Online Page here:
http://games.arcgames.com/en/prod/champions-online
This will be the future home of all things Champions Online, at least on the web. We'd love to hear any feedback about the new site, so make sure to let us know what you think.
And if you run into any issues or bugs please report them to
feedback@arcgames.com.
Thanks,
Dwight
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2. Guides: please rename it. That is not Guides, its subscriptions plus updates.
OR
how about linking some of the stickied threads from forums in,(with an appropriate picture)
like
The ones at the top of Combat and Powers
Guide to spec trees
http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=145720
aggro and threat m anagement
http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=123942
etc.
also
from Crafting
the Guide to Item names from
http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=90112
from Mission and Contents-
LUna's 2 on Nemesis Missions and Alerts
Angelofcaines on UNITY2 prereqs
controls and interfaces
any of those too
Ones which are actually guides and which new players ask about and then have to hunt the forums for.
Actual GUIDES on how to play the game, not just give us more money.
Yes they could go hunting through the forums but;
1. they will run into all the negativity threads
2. the stickied threads unless you know where to look, can take a while to find
ON a completely irrelevant note, I look at the Nighthawk revealed picture, see the arrow over the groin and have a horrible thought about what is about to be revealed.
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1) I will not use Arc.
2) I do not want Arc.
3) Based on the giant threads over on the STO boards (not sure on NW, as I don't visit there, but I wouldn't be surprised), absolutely NOBODY wants Arc.
4) Yet PWE (not Cryptic) is forcing Arc on everyone.
5) I and many others will outright QUIT if you fully force Arc on players.
Right now there's a workaround to Arc (and based on discussions months ago, this will stay) - if you download and run the games through Steam, you will not have to use Arc (because even PWE realizes that using a launcher (Steam) to run another launcher (Arc) is stupid).
If this changes, you will lose A LOT OF PEOPLE because NOBODY wants to use Arc. Yes I know it's what PWE wants. None of its playerbase does.
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Ok i asked a simple question about this to Trail. Are going to be forced on it and he said. We will be able to get into Co the way's we can now..Meaning after beta we can still get into Co through steam. So i would say stop worrying unless PWE does pull a fast one. Also steam users won't be effected by this.
If I have to use a third party to launch the game, I'll probably just cancel my sub.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
Can those of us who aren't running around like the sky is falling because of the transition from Launcher A to Launcher B has your stuffs?
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I don't know if this will help, but I don't think that ARC is a third party. It is PW, the same company that publishes CO.
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
Because I don't need a launcher that stays in memory and shoves all of PWE's games right in my face (when I can simply visit the websites via my browser if I want instead).
Cryptic's launcher is perfect for what it does. It runs all of their titles via one program, and it removes it self once the game itself launches. ARC sits around all the time, does who knows what in the background, and again tries to get you to buy all of their products.
I, nor does anyone else, want this. You should look at the uproar over on the STO boards.
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...i want dis.
Deliciously nutritious!
If it helps, I just recently started to use ARC to launch Champions, Neverwinter, and most recently, STO, and my ping remains in 85-110 range (what it was before I used ARC) and I suffer no sort sort of slowing. Sometimes I forget to close it, but it doesn't slow down my computer or other games, at all.
It's not bad, imo. ^^;
I am NOT leaving Steam! Champions Online is the ONLY cryptic game I'm playing
This is where my friends are, I can take Screenshots e.t.c e.t.c
I don't use ARC either.I have no use for any of the so called features.
I use the normal launcher.
They asked about the website, so i answered that.
amd MW a lot don't like it either, there are several threads asking how to get the other launcher.
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The old site has the news with pictures showing off what's what right at the top. This is important in my opinion since it shows what's being done to the game. Players are not likely to play a game that hasn't had any recent news since it shows a lack of developer attention. The new one has the news in a small box off to the right hidden until you scroll down without any dates (though in CO's case that may be a good thing given the LACK of developer attention...).
The old site has a list of relevant links (eg: news, about the game, media, store, etc) across the top as soon as you load the page. The new site is little more than a crappy about page with a smattering of media constantly cycling.
The old site shows the server status on the main page. The new site does not.
The old site does not shove PWE's other games down my throat. The new site unfortunately does.
Overall the old site is more aesthetically appealing to me when compared to the new one.
...so how is this new site an improvement? I cannot think of ONE thing the new site does better, unless we're talking about annoyance.
By default, Arc launches to your library page, which only displays the games you have installed. There's a Games header in the top menu bar. There's also an Add Games button in the lower left corner that pops up a menu with options to either go to the Games page, or create a shortcut to a non-Arc game. That's it. Nothing is shoved in your face.
Presume away. Based on my observation, it has no effect on bandwidth or latency. The only negative I've seen so far is higher memory usage than Steam. This is a beta, though, so I recall my lessons about premature optimization from my early career. I'd like to see that improve, but PWE may have a more traditional definition of "beta" than the modern Google "use it as an excuse to keep f***ing around with production code" definition.
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Ack! You're right, sorry about that. :P
+ I like that the screenshots and videos are placed upfront; people can check out what a game looks like and see how it plays the minute they discover it.
+ The site itself is very easy to navigate through!
- Save for the content itself, the game pages look and feel the same. Maybe give each gamesite a unique color scheme? EDIT: Realized those were the product pages. Carry on!
~ IMO, the news sections on the product pages feel awkwardly placed and kinda small. Not much of a problem considering the page's purpose.
That's all from me. XP
This is the page existing players want to bookmark: http://community.arcgames.com/en/news/champions-online
Dwight's link is the sales page for new players. I'm not sure if splitting into two pages was PWE's intent, but that's how it works out. The News page is better for existing players. No "OMG my eyes have been exposed to advertising!" bar at the top. Server status would be nice. Maybe they're switching to only displaying alerts when the server is down?
I'm just happy that the new site can be navigated on touch devices. The old menu bar never worked on phones or tablets.
They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
Pretty much this. The product page is designed to sell new players on the game; the news page is for existing users.
We've got plans for messaging server status in different ways, but that's a ways out.
The Arc page for News says 'Auras Prevew'...
Deliciously nutritious!
2. I agree completely with Falch.
3. This site hates my completely updated copy of Chrome.
4. When I did get this site to run on IE the ads are annoying.
5. When I went to the "Social Tab" it popped up a big red flashing box that said, "CLICK HERE TO VIEW YOUR ARREST RECORD NOW." Seriously?
6. I do not "fear change" but this would be the second time we've gotten change without the actual point of change. Where's the betterment of the overall system? What's next? Changing the forums so it's a BBS on dialup? How about you all try changing the other direction? Get Core to acknowledge Cryptic Games? Bring back the Champedia? Update the forums to run as well as the NW Forums?
7.This is also the problem with ARC. What does this new launcher, which I'm guessing cost money and manpower, actually DO to improve my gaming experience? What can it do that I care about that I cannot do with my actual launcher because right now I can launch CO/NW/STO off of any one of those launchers(without Steam).
I suppose it's a good thing there's ads on the website now...since it will pay for these wastes of time.
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Also here are my own ideas how the new website can be better.
1. Keep the same old layout at the home page of the old website
2. Remove the games that have nothing to do with CO on the top and replace them with the old websites tabs and layout. Such as store,news,from, sever status.
3. Add everything that chaelk said but in a neat and tidy way.
Everything else is alright. I really do like the new News layout, I can easily look at all the latest and old news that I never seen before. and I don't have to scroll down as much now with it so open and big.
However I strongly think leaving anything not to do with CO out of the website.
Also the sign in can be a little better and bigger like the old website.
I have to agree with somebob here, even tho that I don't mind using ARC as long its clean and not like steam where it slows down my game. What I agree here is that you WILL lose so much fanbase/gamebase if you FORCE them to use ARC. oh and bob steam sits in your menroy too so don't ***** about that.
Also jonsills I kown how you feel, my mom comes in to clean my bed and Im so sacred she will look at my screen and say things like "Why is that qularr naked in the shower with you". Or well you kown what else .
Oh and I want Mechanon as content NOW!. and hideout rooms and XP gifting!.
Oh and too avianos yeah I thought so did guess we have to keep dreaming.
I have to agree with aceretriever here too. Also TT i strongly think you should keep the same one as the old website to show the status.
And lastly crosschan I have goggle chrome and the website is fine for me, I have programs that remove ads and what not. Also I suggest you do a virus scan if you get so much.
So the ads not their fault its just they way of getting money. and its easily removable by YOUR choice.
Well thats it for me today I replayed as much as I can
Also P.S can someone please tell me how to add your text and images at the end of your posts like that?. I think its called a "signature"
Please and thank you.
I don't see any 3rd party advertising at all, crosschan. Run a virus scan, because I think you got something.
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Aside of that, I have no opinion. For now Arc seems to be lighter on memory usage than is Steam. We will see how it will turn in later development.
As for replacing current launcher with either Steam or Arc - as long as there will be NO intermediary steps between Steam/Arc and actual game, it's ok.
+edit:
One thing must be, however, remembered by people working at replacing current Cryptic games launchers with either Steam or Arc.
Cryptic generic launcher has a host of options, like disabling on demand patching, setting gameplay proxies, and .exe command lines.
Said options must be somehow ported to different launcher, because otherwise Cryptic games will be busted.
Most important one is disabling of on demand patching - almost nobody uses that way of patching, but it is enabled on default. And the only way of disabling it is with Cryptic launcher.
^Count it as a technical feedback.
It must be somehow made editable with either Steam or Arc, if Cryptic launcher is to be ditched in the future.
http://co.perfectworld.com/about/faq
Did I miss it? Is it behind some other tab?
Also, Vets rewards links seem to be missing.
http://co.perfectworld.com/community/veteranrewards/
Again, did I miss the link?
I may no longer be new, but the page needs to be useful to both vets and new players.
Question - Will I need to create another Login Name or will Zedbrightlander1 work on the new page?
Or will I need to become Zedbrightlander2?
I will ask other questions as I think of them.
This is also of the upmost importance to me. Don't forget this Cryptic.
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The real problem here is that Cryptic Engine writes screenshots, which are user files, in the application folder under Program Files. According to Windows development guidelines, that's a no-no. Cryptic needs to move any screenshot folders and/or user configuration files into the user's home folder, preferably under Documents/My Games. That way, Arc could do as it pleased in the Program Files folder, because it would only contain application files.
(I'm keenly aware of this right now, because I just spent months taking an application suite whose first version was for Windows 3.1, and whipping it into shape for Microsoft's post-Vista security guidelines. Segregating OS, application, and user files takes time to fix if you weren't doing it right before, but it makes future development much, much easier.)
They're not there in the beginning, but when your story ends / Gonna last with you longer than your friends
My screenshots aren't going into the program file folder, I have all my games installed to a separate partition on my second HDD. Fortunately all of my custom/user files, including screenshots, are backed up regularly to my sky drive.
This is very much a problem with Arc deleting the files in the folder, and it isn't just Cryptic games that this happens with.
Even if you give the Arc installer an alternate location, the principle remains: User and app files should be segregated. If PWE's studios were getting it right, your SkyDrive backups would just be for best practice purposes, not for "Arc acts like there are no user files in app folders even though every PWE studio violates that rule" purposes.
I certainly hope that, if Arc developers are sticking to Microsoft's guidelines, PWE has also ordered their studios to get their individual games into compliance as well.
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Couldn't help make this in response to change.
As a user I detest the way since vista things are segregated bugs the hell out of me.
Also if you's are all in the new look kinda mood hows about dumping skeleton from the top right of the forums and replacing him with a hero I suggest witchcraft or Sapphire or if it must be a villain use this shot of mind slayer or Talisman As going by the general them of the other perfect world games these include all the proper features
All not a massive fan of the massive arc bar either shrink it a bit or move it to the bottom of the screen.
yep, all the proper features on display, but she has too much clothing . if you could get a shot of Talisman as she does her vanishing act from the irradiated rocket person, It would be more appropriate, her clothes vanish then she does.
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Dont like it.
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Ok, winner. It was an ad thing in one of the very few Chrome addons I use. So disreguard that bit. I'll stand by the rest though.
Also, it's been mentioned in this thread and I agree with it. This webpage lacks theme and feel. Break out some comic panels, IP Characters, and maybe some "BAM!" balloons. It's a comic book super hero game...so make the webpage look like that's what you're selling.
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-Ogre
it happens during the cutscene, so can't screen shot it. There are some advantages, well if you like watching that sort of thing, to having a sloooowww computer
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If PWE does the stupid thing and force ARC onto us then I literally won't be able to play CO with arc running in the background(running CO uses 100% of my rubbish computers power), so how about them having ARC as an option for those people that want it(all 0 of them) but have it still work on steam and the CO launcher.
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Yeah some things are broken... no I don't use/abuse them.. where would be the fun in that?
It made sense to me mate.
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They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
For CO specifically, the picture of Red Snake is good but might be better served with some sort of picture collage representing the costume editor. Would require a new image but in the part that's showcasing character customization, the representative image should show...well, custom characters. Even if it's just taking the archetype default outfits and making new screenshots of them out in the game world with the settings turned up.
On the news page, I think there's two key problems. For consistency reasons, both the new player front page and the news page should have the background that's on the news page. The second thing is something I think also affects Rusty Hearts. The image itself needs to be brightened and perhaps outright changed so that it showcases the game's style. While most of PWE is painterly semi real anime in the promo design, Rusty Hearts is more overtly bright colored anime and CO has a lot of bold lines in an American comic style. The site formatting should be consistent but the actual sidebars should do as much as possible to showcase game individuality.
Media page should have separate sections for movies, screenshots, and wallpapers. Adding to that, all of CO's current media content should be moved over. Some of your older screenshots are actually really good so it would be nice to showcase them and thus the game.
As people have mentioned, there needs to be more actual guides than just ads for subscribing.
This is more of a content issue that affects the site as opposed to directly being a site issue but CO needs a few new trailers. Maybe even setup a contest for it since that would be good community involvement.
-Sterga
Give the player the ability to shut it down after the games booted up and it will be fine.
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They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
News should be above the fold and prominent. People who are thinking about playing a game want to know if stuff is happening. You can have pretty pictures with your news.
There is no obvious player functionality on this page. Path of Exile has an awesome page that once you log in, you can see your characters, their equipment, bank slots, talent tree picks, inventory, and your race points. You can also see what's on sale, the news, where you can buy supporter packs, new stuff in the cash shop, upcoming events. Most of this on the first page, above the fold. An indie company with all of one game has a page that is far more useful than anything PWI is giving us.
If you're going to make a new website, at least steal the good ideas from other MMO sites. This new page is ANOTHER step backwards. It was bad enough to lose so much functionality of the original CO page with the PWI buy out, but now, CO's page is 100% more boring. It looks like every other ho-hum PWI game page.
Each site should retain the feel of the game. You know, that thing that many other big companies do with their games. Sterilizing everything is a terrible idea.
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Now imagine what it'll do to a scrapper computer and you start to see the issue i bought up earlier.
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Yeah some things are broken... no I don't use/abuse them.. where would be the fun in that?