Is that what you actually say to persuade them Nepht?
Hmm... Interesting...
I have an idea of an additional factor, and please don't be offended by me saying it: because these guys also know you're female.
Just so you know I'm not saying this with bias, I'm engaged to a woman who is a mild bit of a feminist herself (which I support), and I have run "experiments" before on other male players in shooters for fun just to see what would happen...
Left 4 Dead, play as Zoey, use a voice emulator to change my voice frequency higher while talking into the microphone like I'm a stereotypical Queens-gay (not overdoing it, talking about the necessary tone inflections that go into the modulator not the word usage). The real trick though is not being the helpless "dumb blonde", but rather impessing with some ****-kicking skills while pretending to be newbie to the game and ask politely if somebody can watch your back.
Wanna guess at the comparative reactions between the control and the experiment?
(reactions were almost universally consistent in any shooter game I tried)
Depends a lot on powers and ability. I find some characters are really good at clearing minions and surviving some minor agro, while others are really best focused on the big bad.
Ideally, everyone drops into their roles and the tank can keep an eye out for unwanted attention and grab agro when people get in over their heads.
Ideally everyone would play to their roles, yes. That's an experience & practice thing.
However your ideal only rarely happens when all things are equal -- the extreme DPS players (or extreme healers) will pull the agro away, and misused knocks or squishies charging in ahead of the tank will sometimes make it hard to impossible to group up the swarm effectively. It's typically NOT easy to be an effective tank, but you can learn how to be more effective.
The suggestion about fixing tanking in my signature below (not my idea btw) would fix that. You should read it.
Eh, I just gave up playing tanks. If I had folks I grouped with regularly ...
Of course, nowadays I just don't play. Sigh. (I pine for Foundry on CO. It's the one thing that would solidly win me back. I know it's not going to happen)
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Is that what you actually say to persuade them Nepht?
Hmm... Interesting...
I have an idea of an additional factor, and please don't be offended by me saying it: because these guys also know you're female.
Just so you know I'm not saying this with bias, I'm engaged to a woman who is a mild bit of a feminist herself (which I support).... *snip*
Erm so you are saying they play games with me because I am a girl? Erm do you actually read the forums Agent. My old MMO crew play with me because most of them are my actual real life buddies and have known me for a long time and knew me BEFORE I was a girl. We've been playing games together ever since the days of the NES all crammed into one of our rooms arguing over who is getting stuck with Luigi.
You may want to read the BEFORE I was a girl part a few times. Some people on the forums tend to be slow on the uptakes.
But Nepht shall help you. Heres a hint.
Thank me later
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95% of alerts you do there will be idiots or cannon fodder; some will try to micromanage you and die because of stupid stuff. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to carry these ungrateful little peasants and their dead weight to the finish line. Occasionally there will be another human/good player/normal person to carry it with you.
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I just nominate this post for Post Of The Year. I know it is early in the year, but this so eloquently states the awesomeness that we all know and love called "Alerts" that it really is the only entry necessary in the POTY awards.
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Erm so you are saying they play games with me because I am a girl? Erm do you actually read the forums Agent. My old MMO crew play with me because most of them are my actual real life buddies and have known me for a long time and knew me BEFORE I was a girl. We've been playing games together ever since the days of the NES all crammed into one of our rooms arguing over who is getting stuck with Luigi.
You may want to read the BEFORE I was a girl part a few times. Some people on the forums tend to be slow on the uptakes.
But Nepht shall help you. Heres a hint.
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Thank me later
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I sometimes feel like I'm the only person who ever WANTED to play Luigi. That jumping height was too good to pass up.
Fine... fine... I failed to interpret "lifetime" correctly and comprehend the message in its entirity. *Emperor's New Groove voice over* "Bad agent, bad!"
*sigh*
Speaking of which, did YOU read the rest of the post AFTER the part you quoted? The experiments were very amusing in truth (as in we actually did better because teamwork was more cohesive).
Also I typically played Luigi too Shieldtower, until Yoshi came into existence. Something about that crazy dino doing it's frog-tongue thing to eat bad guys and then poop them out as eggs you can shoot is just so... hilarious, bizzare, and Japanese-awesome-craziness!
Fine... fine... I failed to interpret "lifetime" correctly and comprehend the message in its entirity. *Emperor's New Groove voice over* "Bad agent, bad!"
*sigh*
Speaking of which, did YOU read the rest of the post AFTER the part you quoted? The experiments were very amusing in truth (as in we actually did better because teamwork was more cohesive).
Also I typically played Luigi too Shieldtower, until Yoshi came into existence. Something about that crazy dino doing it's frog-tongue thing to eat bad guys and then poop them out as eggs you can shoot is just so... hilarious, bizzare, and Japanese-awesome-craziness!
Of course I did but remember I am a massive *****..love yew lots Yeah the ***** game out when peoples tried to shove me on the Luigi not happening EVAR I aint no sidekick
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Fun story. We had two randoms complaining about knock UPS in an alert...and they were ranged...
Yep... saw a discussion in Zone where people were saying "If you're melee, just take attacks that stack knock resistance, and don't knock anything before the three stacks are in place."
This is the part where the kids say "facepalm" or something, right?
Yep... saw a discussion in Zone where people were saying "If you're melee, just take attacks that stack knock resistance, and don't knock anything before the three stacks are in place."
This is the part where the kids say "facepalm" or something, right?
Take flight and hover above the mobs when you Roomsweeph, the villain is piledrived thru the docks planks. True story.
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Alerts blew my mind when I came back from a 2 year hiatus. I started playing them more when my girlfriend started playing and I felt like an old grandpa by the fireplace explaining how in my day, we'd go out into the world to do missions to level up. In Canada, up hill both ways.
Yep... saw a discussion in Zone where people were saying "If you're melee, just take attacks that stack knock resistance, and don't knock anything before the three stacks are in place."
This is the part where the kids say "facepalm" or something, right?
There's a word for people who are clearly new & inexperienced yet act like they know it all... I believe that word is "noob". There are a lot of noobs on Zone chat.
Alerts blew my mind when I came back from a 2 year hiatus. I started playing them more when my girlfriend started playing and I felt like an old grandpa by the fireplace explaining how in my day, we'd go out into the world to do missions to level up. In Canada, up hill both ways.
I can only imagine... A lot has changed in 2 years... Kudos if you can convince her to play
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Hmm... Interesting...
I have an idea of an additional factor, and please don't be offended by me saying it: because these guys also know you're female.
Just so you know I'm not saying this with bias, I'm engaged to a woman who is a mild bit of a feminist herself (which I support), and I have run "experiments" before on other male players in shooters for fun just to see what would happen...
Left 4 Dead, play as Zoey, use a voice emulator to change my voice frequency higher while talking into the microphone like I'm a stereotypical Queens-gay (not overdoing it, talking about the necessary tone inflections that go into the modulator not the word usage). The real trick though is not being the helpless "dumb blonde", but rather impessing with some ****-kicking skills while pretending to be newbie to the game and ask politely if somebody can watch your back.
Wanna guess at the comparative reactions between the control and the experiment?
(reactions were almost universally consistent in any shooter game I tried)
Ideally everyone would play to their roles, yes. That's an experience & practice thing.
However your ideal only rarely happens when all things are equal -- the extreme DPS players (or extreme healers) will pull the agro away, and misused knocks or squishies charging in ahead of the tank will sometimes make it hard to impossible to group up the swarm effectively. It's typically NOT easy to be an effective tank, but you can learn how to be more effective.
The suggestion about fixing tanking in my signature below (not my idea btw) would fix that. You should read it.
Consolidate the currencies! (Please!)
Does your Champion have a theme song? (share it!)
Got a funny in-game screenshot? (share it!)
Please fix the Overdrive energy unlock! (Should help promote thematic build diversity!)
Of course, nowadays I just don't play. Sigh. (I pine for Foundry on CO. It's the one thing that would solidly win me back. I know it's not going to happen)
Wicks and Things: NW-DI4FMZRR4 : The Fenwick merchant family has lost a caravan! Can you help?
Beggar's Hollow: NW-DR6YG4J2L : Someone, or something, has stolen away many of the Fenwicks' children! Can you find out what happened to them?
Into the Fen Wood: NW-DL89DRG7B : Enter the heart of the forest. Can you discover the secret of the Fen Wood?
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Erm so you are saying they play games with me because I am a girl? Erm do you actually read the forums Agent. My old MMO crew play with me because most of them are my actual real life buddies and have known me for a long time and knew me BEFORE I was a girl. We've been playing games together ever since the days of the NES all crammed into one of our rooms arguing over who is getting stuck with Luigi.
You may want to read the BEFORE I was a girl part a few times. Some people on the forums tend to be slow on the uptakes.
But Nepht shall help you. Heres a hint.
Thank me later
* disclaimer: PAIN inc is not responsible for any head f@&ks caused by reading this message *
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
I just nominate this post for Post Of The Year. I know it is early in the year, but this so eloquently states the awesomeness that we all know and love called "Alerts" that it really is the only entry necessary in the POTY awards.
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I am pretty sure a penis just went in one of my ears and out the other several times.
Well saying I am missing that said appendage these days Ima off the hook with that one.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
The above pic pretty much sums up my life.
Git Gud M8!
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Cause I'm worth it. Playing since 2009.
I sometimes feel like I'm the only person who ever WANTED to play Luigi. That jumping height was too good to pass up.
Fine... fine... I failed to interpret "lifetime" correctly and comprehend the message in its entirity. *Emperor's New Groove voice over* "Bad agent, bad!"
*sigh*
Speaking of which, did YOU read the rest of the post AFTER the part you quoted?
Also I typically played Luigi too Shieldtower, until Yoshi came into existence. Something about that crazy dino doing it's frog-tongue thing to eat bad guys and then poop them out as eggs you can shoot is just so... hilarious, bizzare, and Japanese-awesome-craziness!
Consolidate the currencies! (Please!)
Does your Champion have a theme song? (share it!)
Got a funny in-game screenshot? (share it!)
Please fix the Overdrive energy unlock! (Should help promote thematic build diversity!)
Of course I did but remember I am a massive *****..love yew lots
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Princess. Flight. That is all.
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Fun story. We had two randoms complaining about knock UPS in an alert...and they were ranged...
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How to build a freeform character...the Kenpo way
Demon Keypo's Building Guide
Freeform Builds Directory (Last updated: 04/23/2016)
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I actually have a Princess Peach costume. May actually try floating sometime. Will most likely land on my face.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Yep... saw a discussion in Zone where people were saying "If you're melee, just take attacks that stack knock resistance, and don't knock anything before the three stacks are in place."
This is the part where the kids say "facepalm" or something, right?
Pictures or we wont believe you.
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Take flight and hover above the mobs when you Roomsweeph, the villain is piledrived thru the docks planks. True story.
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this post made me LOL a lil too much.
thank you!
You're a lunatic with a mad man's dream of a milk proof robot!
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So you actually want me to attempt to float and land on my face and then send you pics.
Naughty naughty Finn.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
There's a word for people who are clearly new & inexperienced yet act like they know it all... I believe that word is "noob". There are a lot of noobs on Zone chat.
I can only imagine... A lot has changed in 2 years... Kudos if you can convince her to play
Consolidate the currencies! (Please!)
Does your Champion have a theme song? (share it!)
Got a funny in-game screenshot? (share it!)
Please fix the Overdrive energy unlock! (Should help promote thematic build diversity!)