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gingervitosgingervitos Posts: 275 Arc User
edited February 2013 in Champions Online Discussion
Right hit level 14 started doing some alerts for some Q . I waited till I was 14 till I started them and made sure I had some dillo gear you know so my gear stats go up when the alerts start. As you do. So anyway we won 20 seconds to spare in a BF alert. To cut a long story short some moron that was in the alert PM'd me asking me what level I was I said 14 then he started trying to be a smart **** saying he was 28 like it meant he was some sort of CO vet. And checking my combat records he didnt actually help that much anyway.

I told him in not so polite terms that he wasn't a vet that I was the founder of one of CO's oldest supergroups and that I was actually seeing how well low level toons do in alerts and that he was a noob. Unfortunately over the last few months I have seen an rise in the levels of players that get over 25 and think they know everything about the game and think they are gods gift to alerts.

In closing to said players alerts are for EVERYONE not just you get over yourself.

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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Or perhaps you're just being a bit oversensitive, unless the player flatly stated that he was a "veteran" due to reaching the lofty level of 28 <insert suppressed snickering here>.

    Sometimes people just like to trade information, for no very good reason. As an Aspie, I don't fully understand this urge, but I have seen it in action.
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  • lucyinspacewithdiamondslucyinspacewithdiamonds Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    95% of alerts you do there will be idiots or cannon fodder; some will try to micromanage you and die because of stupid stuff. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to carry these ungrateful little peasants and their dead weight to the finish line. Occasionally there will be another human/good player/normal person to carry it with you.

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  • gingervitosgingervitos Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    jonsills wrote: »
    Or perhaps you're just being a bit oversensitive, unless the player flatly stated that he was a "veteran" due to reaching the lofty level of 28 <insert suppressed snickering here>.

    Sometimes people just like to trade information, for no very good reason. As an Aspie, I don't fully understand this urge, but I have seen it in action.

    Nah I haven't said half this asshat said to me and if he is going about doing this to people he thinks are noobs its going to put a lot of new players off.

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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    swap you for yesterdays special, recruitment drive(surprsie surprise)

    we deal with the first three and one person runs strsight to the side mobs,
    then the other sides mobs
    then the back mobs
    To the sounds of various comments on their IQ and how many digits are in it
    While everyone else is pulling the boss out.
    we eventually manged it with 4 people after one person left in disgust.
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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Nah I haven't said half this asshat said to me and if he is going about doing this to people he thinks are noobs its going to put a lot of new players off.

    Report , ignore and move on.
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  • vizzonevizzone Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    chaelk wrote: »
    swap you for yesterdays special, recruitment drive(surprsie surprise)

    we deal with the first three and one person runs strsight to the side mobs,
    then the other sides mobs
    then the back mobs
    To the sounds of various comments on their IQ and how many digits are in it
    While everyone else is pulling the boss out.
    we eventually manged it with 4 people after one person left in disgust.

    I had a particularly bad Recruiting Drive. It devolved into the other players calling each other stupid noobs. In fact, they were so caught up in it that they ignored the villain so they could continue insulting each other until we failed the alert.

    I'm sure it made Poe's day, though.
  • fantasycharacterfantasycharacter Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Your post is missing a lot of vital info. I don't see what the guy did wrong. He asked you your level and stated his?

    If you have only been here since 2011, then I doubt you are the founder of one of COs oldest super groups.

    Maybe we all need to get over ourselves.
  • honestresearcherhonestresearcher Posts: 657 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Snakes Elitist super-secret options of success: (yes im still ###### off with that)

    Number 1: If YOU arent doing EVERYTHING, dont go in, 9/10 it'll fail.

    Number 2: Bring a freeform friend in with you to help you through it, the rest of them are fodder, archetypes, leechers, or people who will quit within a week or so and fire off their Tier 1 Blast power like it's all they have.

    Number 3: Do something else!

    Number 4: Pay a veteren freeform 1500 global to level up 1 of your characters with you by doing Alerts for you. Preferably a green lizard freeform, who is on all the time with nothing to do *nudge nudge wink wink*

    --

    PS if you were one of the founders of the oldest SG's (like me and people like Mad Banana of ARC and many more) I WOULD MOST CERTAINLY KNOW YOU.
  • bioshrikebioshrike Posts: 5,491 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I try to give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to seeing whose just zoned into an Alert. I always like to be pleasantly surprised when a bunch of low level players keep it together and play smart, to win.

    What annoys me most is when people simply don't seem to "get" what the goals are for a particular alert - like running off to fight all the mobs in a Recruiting Drive or Red Winter.

    I've taken to creating a few useful binds for these, but if there's one thing you can't account for, it's the immense depths of people's stupidity.
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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    PS if you were one of the founders of the oldest SG's (like me and people like Mad Banana of ARC and many more) I WOULD MOST CERTAINLY KNOW YOU.

    He is Snake. Thats my little brother. He played CO when it first came out . He did actually set up PAIN inc, the SG I now run in the fall of 2009 . He left at the end of that month and didnt come back until end of 2011 (not counting the time he logged on to give me the SG).

    His SG is as old as he says it is.

    SNARKY NOTE * being away for 2 years does not make one a vet :D *
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  • lestylolestylo Posts: 375 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Right hit level 14 started doing some alerts for some Q . I waited till I was 14 till I started them and made sure I had some dillo gear you know so my gear stats go up when the alerts start. As you do. So anyway we won 20 seconds to spare in a BF alert. To cut a long story short some moron that was in the alert PM'd me asking me what level I was I said 14 then he started trying to be a smart **** saying he was 28 like it meant he was some sort of CO vet. And checking my combat records he didnt actually help that much anyway.

    I told him in not so polite terms that he wasn't a vet that I was the founder of one of CO's oldest supergroups and that I was actually seeing how well low level toons do in alerts and that he was a noob. Unfortunately over the last few months I have seen an rise in the levels of players that get over 25 and think they know everything about the game and think they are gods gift to alerts.

    In closing to said players alerts are for EVERYONE not just you get over yourself.


    I've had this experience before. I often find a red lantern ring streaking into my place after a few alerts. I'm thinking of finding a supergroup that likes to run alerts and stuff at this point.
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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    lestylo wrote: »
    I've had this experience before. I often find a red lantern ring streaking into my place after a few alerts. I'm thinking of finding a supergroup that likes to run alerts and stuff at this point.

    You know your going to totally ace an alert when you see a xSUPERMENx who is a member of that legendary SG New Champions 567.
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  • fantasycharacterfantasycharacter Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    nepht wrote: »
    He is Snake. Thats my little brother. He played CO when it first came out . He did actually set up PAIN inc, the SG I now run in the fall of 2009 . He left at the end of that month and didnt come back until end of 2011 (not counting the time he logged on to give me the SG).

    His SG is as old as he says it is.

    Be that as it may, calling a resurrected SG one of the oldest like that is a stretch. No offence meant I just don't see the time served quite yet:wink:
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Be that as it may, calling a resurrected SG one of the oldest like that is a stretch. No offence meant I just don't see the time served quite yet:wink:

    No offense taken thats exactly the point of my snarky note really. But in his defense I have run it since April 2011. Age wise the SG is old but its only really been active since the date I stated. Still older than most around these days ( back up and running for around 2 years).

    I Must make a better effort to derail flangefaces thread so heres a picture of a cat . Cant be showing any signs of favoritism :D

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    EDIT * I really do have to add that this thread is named well since Ginger has taken to doing alerts :P *
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  • fantasycharacterfantasycharacter Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    nepht wrote: »
    Cant be showing any signs of favoritism :D


    EDIT * I really do have to add that this thread is named well since Ginger has taken to doing alerts :P *

    I have a thing for gingers...:eek:
  • gingervitosgingervitos Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Snakes Elitist super-secret options of success: (yes im still ###### off with that)

    Number 1: If YOU arent doing EVERYTHING, dont go in, 9/10 it'll fail.

    Number 2: Bring a freeform friend in with you to help you through it, the rest of them are fodder, archetypes, leechers, or people who will quit within a week or so and fire off their Tier 1 Blast power like it's all they have.

    Number 3: Do something else!

    Number 4: Pay a veteren freeform 1500 global to level up 1 of your characters with you by doing Alerts for you. Preferably a green lizard freeform, who is on all the time with nothing to do *nudge nudge wink wink*

    --

    PS if you were one of the founders of the oldest SG's (like me and people like Mad Banana of ARC and many more) I WOULD MOST CERTAINLY KNOW YOU.

    Most of that was funny the last bit made you look like a self obsessed toolbag. My AV is a My Pet Monster with a baseball cap on yours is a toaster, your argument is invalid.

    EDIT * I really do have to add that this thread is named well since Ginger has taken to doing alerts :P *

    Mature.

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  • wimpazoidwimpazoid Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Shrug it off, don't expect PUGs to understand or try to figure out what you're doing in alerts when they are too busy playing or are inexperienced.

    A good example will be Ao'qepoth smashes, PUGs tend to tell you how to play or say things out of frustration because they find it easy to fail. If you know what you're doing, just ignore the comments and play. I get told a lot to back off my melee dps to fight at range for Ao'qepoth, but I never had any trouble with him on my melee dps, even with aggro. I'll rather not have someone inexperienced holding aggro on Ao'qepoth to be honest.
  • lucyinspacewithdiamondslucyinspacewithdiamonds Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Number 2: Bring a freeform friend in with you to help you through it, the rest of them are fodder, archetypes, leechers, or people who will quit within a week or so and fire off their Tier 1 Blast power like it's all they have.

    Or just light those ninjas up at level 40 with The Specialist archetype. ^_^ \o/
  • rokurocarisrokurocaris Posts: 1,074 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    My AV is a My Pet Monster with a baseball cap on yours is a toaster, your argument is invalid.

    That's an Aperture Science Sentry Turret (Portal). -.-;
  • rokurocarisrokurocaris Posts: 1,074 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Most of that was funny the last bit made you look like a self obsessed toolbag.

    I don't think he was all that serious about that. Giving other people access to your accounts is very unsafe, and paying them for potentially making a mess of it even more so.
    My AV is a My Pet Monster with a baseball cap on, yours is a toaster, your argument is invalid.

    It's an Aperture Science Sentry Turret (from Portal). -.-;
  • gingervitosgingervitos Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I don't think he was all that serious about that. Giving other people access to your accounts is very unsafe, and paying them for potentially making a mess of it even more so.

    Nah it was the bit about him not knowing me so I couldn't be a vet. I mean I know plenty of people like me who bought the box day one...In my case before day one we are talking BETA here..that don't know who the f__K he is. I know this Mad Banana guy been to enough of his CC's never seen Snakewildlife there. I am pretty sure there are plenty of players that are as old as me that Snake doesn't know. Players like Fenrak and callmebro. Players that don't mouth off as much as others but are far superior players than people that spend all their time raging at people or moaning about sigils doing critical hits and getting his sorry **** banned. Snake doesn't know me and I couldn't really give two f__Ks. The mans a dip**** I mean I didn't even mention him in the thread. Looking forward to when he goes to far again and gets kicked from the forums.


    It's an Aperture Science Sentry Turret (from Portal). -.-;

    I know I love Portal. Epic game.

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  • fantasycharacterfantasycharacter Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Nah it was the bit about him not knowing me so I couldn't be a vet. I mean I know plenty of people like me who bought the box day one...In my case before day one we are talking BETA here..that don't know who the f__K he is. I know this Mad Banana guy been to enough of his CC's never seen Snakewildlife there. I am pretty sure there are plenty of players that are as old as me that Snake doesn't know. Players like Fenrak and callmebro. Players that don't mouth off as much as others but are far superior players than people that spend all their time raging at people or moaning about sigils doing critical hits and getting his sorry **** banned. Snake doesn't know me and I couldn't really give two f__Ks. The mans a dip**** I mean I didn't even mention him in the thread. Looking forward to when he goes to far again and gets kicked from the forums.





    I know I love Portal. Epic game.

    I have one of the oldest accounts around, and am not well known at all:smile: oh and I die in alerts sometimes with my squishies so leets probably think I am a newbiot.
  • wimpazoidwimpazoid Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The problem is as always, why does vets (or power gamers) need to be anything instead of regular people like the rest. Someone born earlier doesn't automatically gets credit where merit isn't due. Not everyone thinks stuff like that matter nor certain people as important as they deem themselves.
  • iamruneiamrune Posts: 965 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    wimpazoid wrote: »
    The problem is as always, why does vets (or power gamers) need to be anything instead of regular people like the rest. Someone born earlier doesn't automatically gets credit where merit isn't due. Not everyone thinks stuff like that matter nor certain people as important as they deem themselves.


    Well, my mother happens to think I'm very important! :biggrin:


    I was in Alpha and my original Cryptic User number on the forums was under 1000. I founded and still lead one of the early SGs too.

    Once I even cared enough to write guides, but I don't see much reason too nowadays.

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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    wimpazoid wrote: »
    The problem is as always, why does vets (or power gamers) need to be anything instead of regular people like the rest. Someone born earlier doesn't automatically gets credit where merit isn't due. Not everyone thinks stuff like that matter nor certain people as important as they deem themselves.

    I am going to ignore the fact that someone I like on the forums and my bro are going NO YEW! at each other and get back on topic. I am just not going there.

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    In the last month or so I have met plenty of new players that can totally rock alerts with lowbie toons. A good player is a good player no matter how long they have been in the game.
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  • wimpazoidwimpazoid Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    iamrune wrote: »
    Well, my mother happens to think I'm very important! :biggrin:


    I was in Alpha and my original Cryptic User number on the forums was under 1000. I founded and still lead one of the early SGs too.

    Once I even cared enough to write guides, but I don't see much reason too nowadays.

    Am I someone?

    You are, with every right. However, that courtesy is only extended to you within your circle.

    Another person's idea of idiots in alerts could very well be some guy who wants everyone else to play by his rules because he claims to be some vet or goes into alerts already thinking he's better than the rest. It's fairly simple, just don't be that guy.
  • bioshrikebioshrike Posts: 5,491 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    wimpazoid wrote: »
    The problem is as always, why does vets (or power gamers) need to be anything instead of regular people like the rest. Someone born earlier doesn't automatically gets credit where merit isn't due. Not everyone thinks stuff like that matter nor certain people as important as they deem themselves.

    While there are exceptions to every rule, in general, if someone has been playing a game longer, they tend to have more knowledge about said game. Again, though, that isn't always the case, but it is a reasonable conclusion to come to.

    From my own experience, for instance, if I see someone in an Alert who is using multiple single target attacks, which are functionally identical to one another, I assume that they built their character that way because they think it looks cool, it's part of some concept build, or they simply don't know any better, (such as not knowing that they can undo a power pick they didn't like or so forth). Observing the way they play said character further helps me to narrow down which of the above categories they fall into, and depending upon how well or poorly they are doing, I may offer some words of advice. If I do, I try to approach the situation as non-accusatory as possible, in case they are the kind fo person who becomes defensive when advice/criticism is doled out...
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    one that went well.
    Red winter.
    7,12,13, 35 and my 34.

    we won easily.
    the 12 had his pets.dinos
    the 7 had no nemesis gear and didn't die once,
    the 13 knew what to do with their AT, they healed and backed up
    I'll admit I thought Oh ****,whe I saw the levels but they all had no probs. I had my usual aggro prob
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  • iamruneiamrune Posts: 965 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    wimpazoid wrote: »
    You are, with every right. However, that courtesy is only extended to you within your circle.

    Another person's idea of idiots in alerts could very well be some guy who wants everyone else to play by his rules because he claims to be some vet or goes into alerts already thinking he's better than the rest. It's fairly simple, just don't be that guy.


    Never would be. My post was with tongue firmly in cheek.

    In case the big smiley didn't make it obvious, or the reference to my mothers opinion of me. :biggrin:
  • ccarmichael07ccarmichael07 Posts: 755 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I had an Alert this weekend, where it was finish off the Baddie AND their cohorts.

    We finish off most of the cohorts, and take down the boss with about 20 seconds to spare. I notice one of the cohorts off to the side shooting at us, so I rush over and start beating on him. Everyone else stands around and watches, as if the guy doesn't exist.

    I'm like WTyouknowwhat.....

    I miss taking down the cohort by about a second. He was on the verge of being dead, with only a sliver of HP left, and time expired.

    The group proceeds to blame me for not taking him down in time.

    /sigh

    I'm no pro, but I'm kinda thinking that we might have won, if some others had come over to help out.

    :frown:


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  • wimpazoidwimpazoid Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    iamrune wrote: »
    Never would be. My post was with tongue firmly in cheek.

    In case the big smiley didn't make it obvious, or the reference to my mothers opinion of me. :biggrin:
    I figured that. :smile:

    My post was more an opportunistic reply in general, since you provided a perfect example of a vet. To anyone first time running into you within an alert, none of that is common knowledge to him nor matters for that duration anyway.

    That's also the main reason why I generally don't interact with PUGs as the intent can be easily misconstrued, and usually don't end well. I do however respond to tells after an alert that ask for tips or about my build.
  • wimpazoidwimpazoid Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Everyone else stands around and watches, as if the guy doesn't exist.
    I've been guilty of that a few times! :eek:

    So accustomed to having the alert end when the boss dies, that I sometimes auto-pilot into waiting for the reward and leave map button to show up, while not noticing there's still a henchman or villain standing. Though if I'm alerted or became aware of it, I will help out.

    The part about blaming the player who did something about it is really unreasonable though.

    I've also encountered vets who almost always just go for the boss and never bothers to help out with the minions in smashes and bursts as if that job is beneath them. I truly detest that behaviour.

    Don't get me started on players who always rage about how they always get the aggro and rage quit alerts because of it.

    My definition of idiots in alerts can be quite extensive too.
  • biffsmackwellbiffsmackwell Posts: 4,739 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I had an Alert this weekend, where it was finish off the Baddie AND their cohorts.

    We finish off most of the cohorts, and take down the boss with about 20 seconds to spare. I notice one of the cohorts off to the side shooting at us, so I rush over and start beating on him. Everyone else stands around and watches, as if the guy doesn't exist.

    I'm like WTyouknowwhat.....

    I miss taking down the cohort by about a second. He was on the verge of being dead, with only a sliver of HP left, and time expired.

    The group proceeds to blame me for not taking him down in time.

    /sigh

    I'm no pro, but I'm kinda thinking that we might have won, if some others had come over to help out.

    :frown:

    I find that often times, people put more importance on standing in front of the camera so they can shove their terrible costume into the cutscene than actually finishing the alert. They really think you're gonna write home about their evil sorcerer costume or their terrible maniacs tribute. Next time, just apologize to all of them for disallowing them their pathetic little beauty contest, you'll be all the better for it.
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  • agentnx5agentnx5 Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I miss taking down the cohort by about a second. He was on the verge of being dead, with only a sliver of HP left, and time expired.

    The group proceeds to blame me for not taking him down in time.

    Ugh lazy hypocrites... I higly detest hypocrites.

    It's also a good case example of Smash Alerts being a problem. You should share it with JonSills in the "Remove Smash Alerts" topic in the Gameplay forum (use search if you don't see it, it's a huge topic).

    You needed this emote: http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=2957471&postcount=45
    wimpazoid wrote:
    I've also encountered vets who almost always just go for the boss and never bothers to help out with the minions in smashes and bursts as if that job is beneath them. I truly detest that behaviour.

    Does that mean you detest me too?

    Here's my typical routine on Radiation Rumble:
    1. Rush the boss before they even get to the trucks and hit them hard. If I get the agro I pull them back the way they initially came from
    2. Go over to the two spots reinforcement groups spawn from (which ever one has less fellow players at) and camp like a champ, with my cursor unlocked (so I can immediately select an enemy in the back and instant kill the whole group with a cone attack a second or two after they spawn) Blamo!
    3. Look around for stragglers the team has misses because they're all over at the reward area already

    In Nemesis Dockside Dustup I almost always go straight for the boss if I'm on a DPS character and ignore the minions because I know I can end it faster for everyone if I do. If I'm a tank or healer then my tactics will change, especially if it notice the team is struggling with the minions. But DPS? Yes, I go for the boss and trust in the tank-ish or support characters to do their role (if they are failing I'll try to assist, but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt). As a low-level I fight the minions first.

    Bottom-line: it depends, requires situational awareness
  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    People "talk" in Alerts? I've never seen anyone say anything besides an occasional "gratz" or "Yay!" after it's finished. When is there time to talk?
    'Dec out

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  • agentnx5agentnx5 Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    People "talk" in Alerts? I've never seen anyone say anything besides an occasional "gratz" or "Yay!" after it's finished. When is there time to talk?

    I shout "MINE!!!" on local on Nemesis Alerts if I see my nemesis.

    I also occasionally say something in-character, particularly if one one of my two evil characters. I'll actually congratulate the other players in Nemesis Alerts on those two evil characters for helping me murder the hero. It seems to bother some of the serious roleplayers who see their characters as infalliable good that could NEVER be duped into doing henious acts that benefit the evil-doers! :tongue: Teehee!

    Mostly though this "talk" comes in the form of PMs/tells.
  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I do the minimalist chat of "hello" "Gratz" and something to summarize the mission win/fail. Most times people won't even talk back. although the Evil character thanking the team to help murder the hero actually sounds pretty fun.
  • redcapcohredcapcoh Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    nepht wrote: »
    In the last month or so I have met plenty of new players that can totally rock alerts with lowbie toons. A good player is a good player no matter how long they have been in the game.
    So you're saying, after CoX got axed... fascinating :cool:
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  • wimpazoidwimpazoid Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    agentnx5 wrote: »
    Does that mean you detest me too?
    By 'never bother', I mean it literally. Unless you are one of them who goes at the boss, and regardless of your contribution to take down the boss, proceed to the reward point and cease contributing while the alert hasn't ended, then no, my opinion of you hasn't change.

    Everyone else attempted and contributed to the boss fight as well, I don't see a reason to justify just the boss fight while the rest of the job falls to others. But I really don't mind it usually, except some vet farmers I've noticed do it consistently. They tend to run lots of alts through dailies and put in the minimal effort to help clear alerts especially in grabs and bursts, sometimes even waiting at the spawn for everyone else to clear before moving.
  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    iamrune wrote: »
    Well, my mother happens to think I'm very important! :biggrin:


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  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    People "talk" in Alerts? I've never seen anyone say anything besides an occasional "gratz" or "Yay!" after it's finished. When is there time to talk?

    Some of this is going to sound arrogant. Not my intention, but here goes...

    I see people talk in alerts on occasion and many times if I see it in a timed alert...I stop doing anything. My thoughts are if you think you have time to do that then you think you are the one pulling this alert and can afford to do so. 9 out of 10 alerts I'm in (excluding alerts teamed with people I know)...if you're handle isn't @KenpoJuJitsu3 you're not the one pulling the alert so you need to get off the text chat and get on with the fight. So I'll idle, watch the bosses life bar predictably stop moving and I'll continue to sit there. I've got plenty of time to fail an alert at the expense of people taking their hands off of their attack keys to start chatting (usually SHOUTING bad instructions to people who are carrying them through the alert). I'm here to play with you and I even do smash alerts on my level 40's for no other reason than to have fun helping pull random teams through some of them. But if someone is going to stop playing and talk then I can stop playing too. I'm here to play with not for you.

    As to the overarching theme of who is and isn't a vet based on character level or who signed up for the game first regardless of actual time spent playing...LOL
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  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    That's pretty much what I was getting at except for the whole "bail on the Alert" angle. It's only a couple of minutes, there's no time for chatter. I couldn't care less what the other people are doing, even if they all leave. If it fails, I'm out a couple of minutes. Big whoop. I can be in another one in a few minutes after.
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  • cyronecyrone Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Some of this is going to sound arrogant. Not my intention, but here goes...

    I see people talk in alerts on occasion and many times if I see it in a timed alert...I stop doing anything. My thoughts are if you think you have time to do that then you think you are the one pulling this alert and can afford to do so. 9 out of 10 alerts I'm in (excluding alerts teamed with people I know)...if you're handle isn't @KenpoJuJitsu3 you're not the one pulling the alert so you need to get off the text chat and get on with the fight. So I'll idle, watch the bosses life bar predictably stop moving and I'll continue to sit there. I've got plenty of time to fail an alert at the expense of people taking their hands off of their attack keys to start chatting (usually SHOUTING bad instructions to people who are carrying them through the alert). I'm here to play with you and I even do smash alerts on my level 40's for no other reason than to have fun helping pull random teams through some of them. But if someone is going to stop playing and talk then I can stop playing too. I'm here to play with not for you.

    As to the overarching theme of who is and isn't a vet based on character level or who signed up for the game first regardless of actual time spent playing...LOL

    This.....brought a tear to my eye. Simply beautiful. Are you free to write speeches for me? :biggrin:
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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    redcapcoh wrote: »
    So you're saying, after CoX got axed... fascinating :cool:

    Nope. In reality its people I have gotten to ditch WoW for CO ( well ditch it a few days a week :P ). Last few months I have gotten at least 13 people to join CO and them being raid vets and as such smash alerts are a cake walk for them. Dunno what CoX has to do with this thread.

    Unless you take what Ginger says as he has noticed theres a lot more know it alls in alerts over the last few months.
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  • agentnx5agentnx5 Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    nepht wrote: »
    Nope. In reality its people I have gotten to ditch WoW for CO ( well ditch it a few days a week :P ). Last few months I have gotten at least 13 people to join CO and them being raid vets and as such smash alerts are a cake walk for them.

    Oh?

    How?

    What are you saying to persuade them?
  • mersenneprimemersenneprime Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    agentnx5 wrote: »
    In Nemesis Dockside Dustup I almost always go straight for the boss if I'm on a DPS character and ignore the minions because I know I can end it faster for everyone if I do. If I'm a tank or healer then my tactics will change, especially if it notice the team is struggling with the minions. But DPS? Yes, I go for the boss and trust in the tank-ish or support characters to do their role (if they are failing I'll try to assist, but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt). As a low-level I fight the minions first.

    Bottom-line: it depends, requires situational awareness
    I'm the opposite.

    Far too often I've seen peeps struggling with the minions, so my tactic in the 2 minute drill and dockside are to take the minions before I even look at the boss. In recruiting, I help with the first three and hope to not have aggro so I can pull the boss (if someone else hasn't already. If peeps are pulling the side, I still try to wipe out minions before the boss.

    I figure the faster the minions are all down the faster we can all focus on the boss, even if that focus is simply toggling on your EB, if there's other peeps that can destroy the minions as well as I can, then all the better since we get to beat the boss up that much faster, but getting them out of the way means less death (since they aren't killing peeps) and no worries about "why isn't the alert ending?" when the boss goes down.

    However, if I'm not on a tank type (or someone hasn't bubbled me), I will stand around and wait for someone else to attack first. :p

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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    agentnx5 wrote: »
    Oh?

    How?

    What are you saying to persuade them?

    Simple. I tell them you can lift trucks over your head and punch noobs into orbit. Whats not to love . The fact the game has foam fingers was the thing though :D

    Also my crew I run mmos with likes to try new stuff now and then we've also been doing some BL2 also.
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  • bioshrikebioshrike Posts: 5,491 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I'm the opposite.

    Far too often I've seen peeps struggling with the minions, so my tactic in the 2 minute drill and dockside are to take the minions before I even look at the boss. In recruiting, I help with the first three and hope to not have aggro so I can pull the boss (if someone else hasn't already. If peeps are pulling the side, I still try to wipe out minions before the boss.

    I figure the faster the minions are all down the faster we can all focus on the boss, even if that focus is simply toggling on your EB, if there's other peeps that can destroy the minions as well as I can, then all the better since we get to beat the boss up that much faster, but getting them out of the way means less death (since they aren't killing peeps) and no worries about "why isn't the alert ending?" when the boss goes down.

    However, if I'm not on a tank type (or someone hasn't bubbled me), I will stand around and wait for someone else to attack first. :p

    I second this; If you clear the *necessary* minions first, everyone can focus on the boss. Especially in Recruiting Drives, where a minion using a knock while you are a little to one side can aggro another group and further complicate things.

    If you are a DPS who lacks in survivability, it is imperative that you manage your own aggro to the best of your ability - in some Alerts, like Recruiting Drive, if you die it speeds up the timer and makes everyone's lives more difficult...
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  • zahinderzahinder Posts: 2,382 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Depends a lot on powers and ability. I find some characters are really good at clearing minions and surviving some minor agro, while others are really best focused on the big bad.

    Ideally, everyone drops into their roles and the tank can keep an eye out for unwanted attention and grab agro when people get in over their heads.

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  • chalupaoffurychalupaoffury Posts: 2,553 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Meanwhile, I built Chernobyl primarily to wipe the adds as fast as possible, so we can focus on the boss. It's amazing what pestilence and epidemic will do to trash mobs. And that character's like 3 years old. I don't think this behavior has anything to do with vet, or even farmers (I do that too, isn't that why we alert?) but more simply: Jerks. They come at every experience level.

    Lol at KJJ's "well, then, if you have time to talk you have time to carry it". I'm too competitive for all that, but I admire your moxie. :D
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