Not intending to be nasty here but Cryptic needs to step up and take a real hard look at the system if a prominent active community focused SG is stopping their costume contests because they can't hold one without being chat banned.
Maybe it's time that Cryptic seperated the CO chat server from STO/NWN so they can rework the chat ban feature to prevent this from happening if that's the reason that they can't do any major rework or disable it in CO.
Frankly, what Cryptic needs to do is remove the 'auto-ban' feature immediately (as it's only used for griefing), and instead have the Report Spammer function report to, you know, a GM. And we'd need to get actual GMs INTO CO for that matter to do a MUCH needed job.
And sorry, Drannic, but I don't believe you. CO has no ingame GMs. It's just so obvious as time goes on.
They also can't break the chat server apart because the whole thing is interconnected as designed.
As I've said before, and I'll keep on saying - I refuse to interact with the community as a whole (in Zone) as I'm afraid of being chat banned. That's just messed up.
Not intending to be nasty here but Cryptic needs to step up and take a real hard look at the system if a prominent active community focused SG is stopping their costume contests because they can't hold one without being chat banned.
This isn't why. He announced they're stopping before he got chat banned.
...As much as I hate the chat ban system on principle, abusing it is not the answer.
I think the point i (and others) was trying to make is:
If the system is "working as intended", there would be no "abuse" happening :biggrin:
If someone could bring the entire thing to a screeching halt (mass chat bans) simply by /ignore every single person who logged on/posted in zone (yes, newbies included) :eek:
That either someone "intended" something different than what chat bans were intended for...
...Or the system is indeed broken, and it needs to be removed :mad:
Not intending to be nasty here but Cryptic needs to step up and take a real hard look at the system if a prominent active community focused SG is stopping their costume contests because they can't hold one without being chat banned.
Maybe it's time that Cryptic seperated the CO chat server from STO/NWN so they can rework the chat ban feature to prevent this from happening if that's the reason that they can't do any major rework or disable it in CO.
The "forum-gate" incedent (April 15th, 2011) taught us that Cryptic couldn't care less if the forums went down in flames. . (and took the wiki with it) .
Do you REALLY think they'd care a rats behind about costume contests? . .
Even with one as prominent as @forutnefire/Lectrom?
Remember, the forums are the MINORITY of the player base (137-9-25)
A system is not broken just because its users choose to be stupid.
If I don't take an attack and can't kill anything in the game, the game is not broken because I chose to do something stupid.
In that case, I insist that they give us a game-ban fuction that banned people from the game on top of the chat-ban function that works based on X number of chat-bans recieved and banned people for at least a week, if not permanetly. That way when people start getting banned from the game, it would be cuz people did something stupid in game, and not because the company was stupid enough to give us a tool that could be horribly abused in the first place. :cool:
I never said it was over this ban, but people have reported being banned in the middle of hosting or after announcing a costume contest.
I've fallen victim to this for talking to someone in local about how mods work, and saying hello to someone.
A staggering amount of these incidents happen to roleplayers. There are entire groups of players out there that just love to terrorize us 'for the lulz'. Even worse are the roleplayers who abuse it because 'you roleplayed a thing that they didn't like'. Yes, I've seen this and it's childish.
I don't see how this was ever even implemented as a game mechanic. If you don't like what someone is posting, use the ignore feature. If they say something so bad that you can't stand it, then by all means send in a ticket. (Personally, I wouldn't do this unless it was soliciting someone for child porn or making a legitimate threat, because I can control my emotions if I am offended).
I think the point i (and others) was trying to make is:
If the system is "working as intended", there would be no "abuse" happening :biggrin:
If someone could bring the entire thing to a screeching halt (mass chat bans) simply by /ignore every single person who logged on/posted in zone (yes, newbies included) :eek:
That either someone "intended" something different than what chat bans were intended for...
...Or the system is indeed broken, and it needs to be removed :mad:
Yeah, I get that. However, advocating such a tactic, even as a means of making a point, is also rife with potential for abuse. If I had faith that people on the internet would act responsibly, I wouldn't say this. Since I don't have such faith...
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I've fallen victim to this for talking to someone in local about how mods work, and saying hello to someone.
A staggering amount of these incidents happen to roleplayers. There are entire groups of players out there that just love to terrorize us 'for the lulz'. Even worse are the roleplayers who abuse it because 'you roleplayed a thing that they didn't like'. Yes, I've seen this and it's childish.
I don't see how this was ever even implemented as a game mechanic. If you don't like what someone is posting, use the ignore feature. If they say something so bad that you can't stand it, then by all means send in a ticket. (Personally, I wouldn't do this unless it was soliciting someone for child porn or making a legitimate threat, because I can control my emotions if I am offended).
Ignoring someone will also result in a chat ban with this wonderful system
This is one feature that should never have been considered. Players should never have the ability to have this kind of impact on another players game. The report spam feature should only send a report of the incident to a gm. The GM then should take a look at each case and determine if it was indeed spam.
This may cause more work for the GMs, but other games have a similar feature to this that doesn't result in a chat ban. The feature in the other games only place the 'spammer' on the reporters ignore list.
You know, when I said I expected to be silenced again unfairly on the first page, I DIDN'T EXPECT IT TO BE RIGHT NOW. I wasn't even spamming, again. Here. I feel like sharing the ticket I sent. I'll be chatting again in 24 hours.
"Hi. Me again. I just got another 24 hour silence for spam when I was chatting normally. Sure, roleplaying can be annoying, but it ISN'T spam, and I seriously resent the constant abuse of the report spam system. As last time, I expect nothing to be done (You can't lift silences, after all), but I want to make my resentment and innocence clear. Your system is seriously broken. I (and several others) have posted on the forums about this issue, but nothing continues to be done. I'm a silver account, so you have no fear of losing money from me, but several gold members I've spoken to are discussing stopping subscription due to your broken system.
Anyway. I know there's nothing you personally can do about it, but I felt the need to vent my frustration."
They say vote with your wallet, it's the only way to get attention.
I say yes... come join me in Silvertude until PWE listens. And feel free to use my avatar.
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Its a sad day when we have to resort to boycotting subs and buying stuff from PWcryptic just to get an issue fixed.......but if it works Im doing to stop spending money also,but Im keeping my avatar
I've decided to stop making ZEN purchases ever since it became apparent that they didn't care to address region-lock in any fashion whatsoever.
Their refusal to address the chat ban system and the fact that it is too easily exploited just reinforces my decision, among other factors.
The sad reality is that, as AngelofCaine has stated, the forums are just a vocal minority of the playerbase. It doesn't matter how dissatisfied any number of us are with PWE/Cryptic. Corporate doesn't care as long as the profits are coming in. They can live with the negative backlash if so. When they do face a drastic drop in sales then rest assured they will start doing something and start listening to the negative feedback. So yeah, hit them in the wallets where it really counts.
This is one feature that should never have been considered. Players should never have the ability to have this kind of impact on another players game. The report spam feature should only send a report of the incident to a gm. The GM then should take a look at each case and determine if it was indeed spam.
This may cause more work for the GMs, but other games have a similar feature to this that doesn't result in a chat ban. The feature in the other games only place the 'spammer' on the reporters ignore list.
But that would be responsible game moderation, and it would require GMs. And Cryptic wants neither of those things :rolleyes:
They just want an automated system that does the work for them--without having to think or actually determine whether an account reported for spamming has actually been used to spam.
*snip* but several gold members I've spoken to are discussing stopping subscription due to your broken system.
Unfortunately, I'm on a LTS so they could care less if I stopped playing the game either--they already have my money. All I can do is not buy anything from the c-store over things like these--which I haven't done in months (though, if I did it would be with stipend so I suspect they wouldn't care either).
But still... *raises fist* "...Fight the POWAH!" *refuses to buy anything from the store* :mad:
You know, now that I think of it... I was wrong. I do buy things from the Z-store despite being silver, so they CAN lose money from me. Time to boycott.
The fact that I got silenced isn't so galling. It's the fact that I wasn't actually spamming, and I got silenced with NO input from a GM. From an automated system. And the people responsible for abusing the report spam button will face no negative repercussions.
It's almost as it Cryptic hasn't heard of the Greater Internet F***wad Theory, isn't it? They expect people to behave responsibly with the button we have no right having, despite the fact anonymity often brings out the very worst in people.
And as one person said... it can only take one person to get someone silenced for 24 hours. That kind of system is RIPE for abuse.
But of course, you all already know this. I mean, it's why we're all posting here.
Hey Cryptic, it's taking everything I have not to curse you out right now. I've been marked as a spammer. Again. This is 3 times.
If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
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If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
Please read the rest of the thread. He announced a costume contest. ONCE. And was silenced. That doesn't sound like abuse to you?
In the case of my silence, it is understandable. I'm a roleplayer on a certain character, and he can become annoying. But being an annoying prick isn't 'spamming' and it doesn't mean you should get silenced for a whole day by an automated system, and give the GMs no ability to remove the silence when it was falsely given (which it often is). In fact, if I wanted, I could find random people and hit report spam until they got silenced. And it would work. The system is flawed, easily abusable, and should NOT be in the hands of the players. A GM should be in charge of silencing spammers, not other players who just hit it when someone says something they dislike. (People who hit report spam for Grond jokes, I'm looking at you! Though I agree. Grond Jokes suck.) Anonymity and lack of punishment for abusing the Report Spam button begs for people to misuse it.
If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
How about you consider others by educating yourself on the topic before firing off a barrage on the forums about an issue you cleary know nothing about?
I had not got a chance to talk publicly after signing on when I was hit with the ban. What happened was, I logged into the Powerhouse Theater next to some person whom I had ignored at some earlier time, (a last resort move in which someone is spamming a contest, or refuses to not speak obscenities) a friend, and 2 others, and started responding to mail and private tells I had recieved. Halfway through writing a letter-whamo, I can't talk.
I never spoke in local chat, I never spoke in zone chat, I never even got out of the freakin theater. My notion in the original post was bad joke. If you knew me, you'd know that I don't curse, I don't like people who do, and that I DQ contestants that participate in showing what little vocabulary they have in my CCs.
If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
I'd like to live in the hippycommune you live in, where people don't abuse system like the 'Ignoramus Cryptimus' and are nice to each others...This your 1st mmo?
Dude. 20 clicks of 'ignore' and you would be muted for 24 hours. You should try and say the same what you wrote here in Zone and see what happens...
Or was u a troll...or working in Cryptic or PWE?...
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If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
first off,people have announced SG events,ONCE,and been silenced for it,secondly,if people dont want zone chat,this is to all the people who abuse it,JUST TURN THE THING OFF,we like to act funny on zone chat,especially when a funny chat or conversation comes up,and if you dont like what goes on in zone chat,its what it was designed to do,shout trades,cross-zone-RP,and have funny,amusing conversations,you don't like it?,turn the chat system off then,press the minimize chat window button,problem solved for you.
If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
Gonna say this I have been to many of Lechy's CC and they have all been fun. Robingbrown get your facts straight before talking sh[t. Lechy never spams zone chat he mentions it in what I have seen in 5 min intervals like 30 mins before the CC starts . 6 lines of chat in 30 mins....hardly spam.
It is well known someone has been stalking the OP for the best part of a year.
But hey if your going to accuse people without proof so will I . Are YOU and your SG the ones stalking him? Because that can be the only reason you have for that BS remark.
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I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
No....just no.
The OP has done nothing but try to be as helpful as he can in the community. If he is announcing a CC it is once every five to ten minutes just like everyone else. Get your facts straight before accusing somebody.
If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
Your degree of ignorance is staggering, and deserve to be slapped with a trout as a result... *slaps with a trout*
Its not up to you or anyone else to determine who gets to chat or not in any game for any reason--even if they're spewing obscenities or openly discussing objectionable topics in zone chat (that's what the ignore function is for). Cryptic games are the only games I know of in the entire industry that use such an automated system.
And we've been told before, by the devs and community reps, that we're NOT supposed to use the report spam function for ANYTHING other than reporting actual spam (i.e. goldsellers and such--people dealing in real money transactions).
Chat-banning someone because you personally don't like them is NOT an intended function of this system. They are supposed to apply ONLY to actual spammers. You (and the system) are WRONG.
Its a sad day when we have to resort to boycotting subs and buying stuff from PWcryptic just to get an issues fixed.......but if it works Im doing to stop spending money also,but Im keeping my avatar
There, fixed that for ya.
There is a whole list of issues I have since On Alert that deems Cryptic no longer worth of my money. Chat-banning doesn't even make the top 5. :mad:
I've recently started using an "in-character" conversation style with Happifun Security System X-4. I expect to get my first chat ban any time now...
(Pardon me, that should be, "Unit predicts 87.4 percent chance of forced loss of communications within 24 hours.")
"Science teaches us to expect -- demand -- more than just eerie mysteries. What use is a puzzle that can't be solved? Patience is fine, but I'm not going to stop asking the universe to make sense!"
Seeing that arbitrary chat bans seem to be on the rise, maybe we should start an IRC channel so people can chat freely again. I'll gladly start one, as long as I know it will be used. For that matter, do we already have an existing IRC channel that we could use?
EDIT: Yep, there already appears to be a Champions Online IRC channel. Can't find a forum post about it though, maybe I'm overlooking it but searching "IRC channel" in the forum's search engine doesn't seem to give a topic about it. Here's the channel anyway.
also:
i warned you about chat bans bro
i told you dog
If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
Not in CO you don't.
Um, yes they do (in CO), that's what this is about
Um, no they don't (see #2)
It's not a "barrage" that's the problem, it's the system that allows a ban from a SINGLE chat
A person complaining for perhaps the fourth thread regarding his own ability to speak in game would like to dictate to others what should not be said on the forums...
A person complaining for perhaps the fourth thread regarding his own ability to speak in game would like to dictate to others what should not be said on the forums...
I see helbjorn's up to his usual
P.S. This is the very definition of irony;
Definition of irony(noun)
1. the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect:" Don't go overboard with the gratitude," he rejoined with heavy irony
2. a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result: "the irony is that I thought he could help me": one of life's little ironies
3. (also dramatic or tragic irony) a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character?s words or actions is clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.
From the Oxford Dictionary. Alannis Morrisette should have looked it up as well as helbjorn ;-P
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Frankly, what Cryptic needs to do is remove the 'auto-ban' feature immediately (as it's only used for griefing), and instead have the Report Spammer function report to, you know, a GM. And we'd need to get actual GMs INTO CO for that matter to do a MUCH needed job.
And sorry, Drannic, but I don't believe you. CO has no ingame GMs. It's just so obvious as time goes on.
They also can't break the chat server apart because the whole thing is interconnected as designed.
As I've said before, and I'll keep on saying - I refuse to interact with the community as a whole (in Zone) as I'm afraid of being chat banned. That's just messed up.
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This isn't why. He announced they're stopping before he got chat banned.
It may not be the only reason but he did say that it was part of it.
I saw what he said. Doesn't seem temporally possible, unless it's a decision he's been stewing over for a month.
If the system is "working as intended", there would be no "abuse" happening :biggrin:
If someone could bring the entire thing to a screeching halt (mass chat bans) simply by /ignore every single person who logged on/posted in zone (yes, newbies included) :eek:
That either someone "intended" something different than what chat bans were intended for...
...Or the system is indeed broken, and it needs to be removed :mad:
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(and took the wiki with it)
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Do you REALLY think they'd care a rats behind about costume contests?
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Even with one as prominent as @forutnefire/Lectrom?
Remember, the forums are the MINORITY of the player base (137-9-25)
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If I don't take an attack and can't kill anything in the game, the game is not broken because I chose to do something stupid.
I never said it was over this ban, but people have reported being banned in the middle of hosting or after announcing a costume contest.
In that case, I insist that they give us a game-ban fuction that banned people from the game on top of the chat-ban function that works based on X number of chat-bans recieved and banned people for at least a week, if not permanetly. That way when people start getting banned from the game, it would be cuz people did something stupid in game, and not because the company was stupid enough to give us a tool that could be horribly abused in the first place. :cool:
I've fallen victim to this for talking to someone in local about how mods work, and saying hello to someone.
A staggering amount of these incidents happen to roleplayers. There are entire groups of players out there that just love to terrorize us 'for the lulz'. Even worse are the roleplayers who abuse it because 'you roleplayed a thing that they didn't like'. Yes, I've seen this and it's childish.
I don't see how this was ever even implemented as a game mechanic. If you don't like what someone is posting, use the ignore feature. If they say something so bad that you can't stand it, then by all means send in a ticket. (Personally, I wouldn't do this unless it was soliciting someone for child porn or making a legitimate threat, because I can control my emotions if I am offended).
Yeah, I get that. However, advocating such a tactic, even as a means of making a point, is also rife with potential for abuse. If I had faith that people on the internet would act responsibly, I wouldn't say this. Since I don't have such faith...
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How do you get banned for using a feature that is 'working as intended'?
Ignoring someone will also result in a chat ban with this wonderful system
This may cause more work for the GMs, but other games have a similar feature to this that doesn't result in a chat ban. The feature in the other games only place the 'spammer' on the reporters ignore list.
This is what the Cryptic/PWE has failed to understand.
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And you think that Cryptic has banned a single person over this? Not a chance.
CO doesn't even have GMs TO ban people with.
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"Hi. Me again. I just got another 24 hour silence for spam when I was chatting normally. Sure, roleplaying can be annoying, but it ISN'T spam, and I seriously resent the constant abuse of the report spam system. As last time, I expect nothing to be done (You can't lift silences, after all), but I want to make my resentment and innocence clear. Your system is seriously broken. I (and several others) have posted on the forums about this issue, but nothing continues to be done. I'm a silver account, so you have no fear of losing money from me, but several gold members I've spoken to are discussing stopping subscription due to your broken system.
Anyway. I know there's nothing you personally can do about it, but I felt the need to vent my frustration."
I would offer myself to GM this game
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Their refusal to address the chat ban system and the fact that it is too easily exploited just reinforces my decision, among other factors.
The sad reality is that, as AngelofCaine has stated, the forums are just a vocal minority of the playerbase. It doesn't matter how dissatisfied any number of us are with PWE/Cryptic. Corporate doesn't care as long as the profits are coming in. They can live with the negative backlash if so. When they do face a drastic drop in sales then rest assured they will start doing something and start listening to the negative feedback. So yeah, hit them in the wallets where it really counts.
But that would be responsible game moderation, and it would require GMs. And Cryptic wants neither of those things :rolleyes:
They just want an automated system that does the work for them--without having to think or actually determine whether an account reported for spamming has actually been used to spam.
Unfortunately, I'm on a LTS so they could care less if I stopped playing the game either--they already have my money. All I can do is not buy anything from the c-store over things like these--which I haven't done in months (though, if I did it would be with stipend so I suspect they wouldn't care either).
But still... *raises fist* "...Fight the POWAH!" *refuses to buy anything from the store* :mad:
The fact that I got silenced isn't so galling. It's the fact that I wasn't actually spamming, and I got silenced with NO input from a GM. From an automated system. And the people responsible for abusing the report spam button will face no negative repercussions.
It's almost as it Cryptic hasn't heard of the Greater Internet F***wad Theory, isn't it? They expect people to behave responsibly with the button we have no right having, despite the fact anonymity often brings out the very worst in people.
And as one person said... it can only take one person to get someone silenced for 24 hours. That kind of system is RIPE for abuse.
But of course, you all already know this. I mean, it's why we're all posting here.
If you've been prevented from speaking in chat due to epople reporting you as a spammer then you really need to reconsider how you're using the chat system.
People don't get chat banned multiple times becasue of a faulty system.
People get chat banned multiple times because they're spamming the chat with irrelevant crap.
Try to consider others before firing off a barrage in chat.
Please read the rest of the thread. He announced a costume contest. ONCE. And was silenced. That doesn't sound like abuse to you?
In the case of my silence, it is understandable. I'm a roleplayer on a certain character, and he can become annoying. But being an annoying prick isn't 'spamming' and it doesn't mean you should get silenced for a whole day by an automated system, and give the GMs no ability to remove the silence when it was falsely given (which it often is). In fact, if I wanted, I could find random people and hit report spam until they got silenced. And it would work. The system is flawed, easily abusable, and should NOT be in the hands of the players. A GM should be in charge of silencing spammers, not other players who just hit it when someone says something they dislike. (People who hit report spam for Grond jokes, I'm looking at you! Though I agree. Grond Jokes suck.) Anonymity and lack of punishment for abusing the Report Spam button begs for people to misuse it.
Which is why most of us think it should go.
How about you consider others by educating yourself on the topic before firing off a barrage on the forums about an issue you cleary know nothing about?
I had not got a chance to talk publicly after signing on when I was hit with the ban. What happened was, I logged into the Powerhouse Theater next to some person whom I had ignored at some earlier time, (a last resort move in which someone is spamming a contest, or refuses to not speak obscenities) a friend, and 2 others, and started responding to mail and private tells I had recieved. Halfway through writing a letter-whamo, I can't talk.
I never spoke in local chat, I never spoke in zone chat, I never even got out of the freakin theater. My notion in the original post was bad joke. If you knew me, you'd know that I don't curse, I don't like people who do, and that I DQ contestants that participate in showing what little vocabulary they have in my CCs.
Flare's guide to hosting and judging costume contests!
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I'd like to live in the hippycommune you live in, where people don't abuse system like the 'Ignoramus Cryptimus' and are nice to each others...This your 1st mmo?
Dude. 20 clicks of 'ignore' and you would be muted for 24 hours. You should try and say the same what you wrote here in Zone and see what happens...
Or was u a troll...or working in Cryptic or PWE?...
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first off,people have announced SG events,ONCE,and been silenced for it,secondly,if people dont want zone chat,this is to all the people who abuse it,JUST TURN THE THING OFF,we like to act funny on zone chat,especially when a funny chat or conversation comes up,and if you dont like what goes on in zone chat,its what it was designed to do,shout trades,cross-zone-RP,and have funny,amusing conversations,you don't like it?,turn the chat system off then,press the minimize chat window button,problem solved for you.
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Gonna say this I have been to many of Lechy's CC and they have all been fun. Robingbrown get your facts straight before talking sh[t. Lechy never spams zone chat he mentions it in what I have seen in 5 min intervals like 30 mins before the CC starts . 6 lines of chat in 30 mins....hardly spam.
It is well known someone has been stalking the OP for the best part of a year.
But hey if your going to accuse people without proof so will I . Are YOU and your SG the ones stalking him? Because that can be the only reason you have for that BS remark.
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No....just no.
The OP has done nothing but try to be as helpful as he can in the community. If he is announcing a CC it is once every five to ten minutes just like everyone else. Get your facts straight before accusing somebody.
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Your degree of ignorance is staggering, and deserve to be slapped with a trout as a result... *slaps with a trout*
Its not up to you or anyone else to determine who gets to chat or not in any game for any reason--even if they're spewing obscenities or openly discussing objectionable topics in zone chat (that's what the ignore function is for). Cryptic games are the only games I know of in the entire industry that use such an automated system.
And we've been told before, by the devs and community reps, that we're NOT supposed to use the report spam function for ANYTHING other than reporting actual spam (i.e. goldsellers and such--people dealing in real money transactions).
Chat-banning someone because you personally don't like them is NOT an intended function of this system. They are supposed to apply ONLY to actual spammers. You (and the system) are WRONG.
There, fixed that for ya.
There is a whole list of issues I have since On Alert that deems Cryptic no longer worth of my money. Chat-banning doesn't even make the top 5. :mad:
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Stuff like that happens alot in forums,somewhere in the thread it gets off-topic,happens all the time,but in a funny way most of the time
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A person complaining for perhaps the fourth thread regarding his own ability to speak in game would like to dictate to others what should not be said on the forums...
I see helbjorn's up to his usual
P.S. This is the very definition of irony;
Definition of irony(noun)
1. the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect:" Don't go overboard with the gratitude," he rejoined with heavy irony
2. a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result: "the irony is that I thought he could help me": one of life's little ironies
3. (also dramatic or tragic irony) a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character?s words or actions is clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.
From the Oxford Dictionary. Alannis Morrisette should have looked it up as well as helbjorn ;-P
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