I?m feeling a bit stymied in my efforts to come up with a hero set firmly within the Force power set that also uses PFF successfully. I hope it?s okay to post here the Force build I?ve had until now, which is based around PF as a defense, and the build using PFF that is my problem child. I just can?t see how to translate the former into a solid version of the latter, or if it is even possible. I?d appreciate any suggestions for either version. I find the Force power set especially tricky.
The problem that I?m facing is that I want a hero that (at current level 21) can fire off a fully charged Force Cascade, while still having some defenses. I can do this with the PF build since the passive is AoPM and this gives me a sufficient boost to End and Int to get off a full FC, plus it gives me a good Ego for the ranged damage, good Rec to regain energy, a bit of Dex for the random crit, some Pre to help with the PF, and some Con to help with survivability. Going solo around smallish mobs he can usually angle his FC to knock out 2-3 in one blast, making it relatively easy to take the others out before the PF goes down. So far he?s usually only in trouble when he?s with his super group facing a much larger mob. Then he?s a much bigger target and draws fire from all directions.
With the version using PFF I just can?t get the stats necessary to fire off a full FC. A present, even when fully charged, it is only at 2/3-3/4 power because the End + Int + Cost Reduction just aren?t high enough.
Just want to emphasize again that he?s only level 21, with typical stats and gear for the level. I.e. he?s not someone with major stats of 300 and all purple 3 slot gear.
I am toying with the idea of making a PFF tank using the laser swords as primary mean of attack.
My main question is... is CON useful as a Primary or Secondary SS??
From the feeling I get in here, it feels like I just should be worried about the shield not decaying, therefore my base hp is not AS important as other tank builds.
Also... how do you feel about (at this point) resistance vs dodge for PFF??
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I am toying with the idea of making a PFF tank using the laser swords as primary mean of attack.
My main question is... is CON useful as a Primary or Secondary SS??
From the feeling I get in here, it feels like I just should be worried about the shield not decaying, therefore my base hp is not AS important as other tank builds.
Also... how do you feel about (at this point) resistance vs dodge for PFF??
CON I would say is a useful secondary for you as you are using lazer swords so Dex or STR as primary I would imagine with CON and INT secondary? PFF scales with primary SS and is affected for about 100-300 pFF points by secondary SS's respectively.
Defense/resistance is applied after PFF takes 90% of damage or so, apparently dodge and aviodance is one of the things infront of PFF. So dodge is the way to go I think...as PFF will take less when you dodge something.
CON I would say is a useful secondary for you as you are using lazer swords so Dex or STR as primary I would imagine with CON and INT secondary? PFF scales with primary SS and is affected for about 100-300 pFF points by secondary SS's respectively.
My point is... what's the role of CON for a good PFF tank..... to serve as cushion if the shield happens to go down??? I see that on the builds of Cyrone he doesn't stat CON, so that's why I was wondering.
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My point is... what's the role of CON for a good PFF tank..... to serve as cushion if the shield happens to go down??? I see that on the builds of Cyrone he doesn't stat CON, so that's why I was wondering.
Well I guess in PFF's current state Con wouldnt hurt to have and as you are going to be quite close range I'd say PFF would go down quite fast and a little cushion never hurt anyone.
It is true that there are some stats which are better advised to use with PFF like Ego and End but PFF scales with Super Stats so there really should not be any issues, really.
A good PFF tank would have to forcibly (no pun intended ;p) build around PFF to keep it up which could end up in a reduction of effectiveness, then again I have never done a PFF freeform so, this is just from what I know already.
From what I understand just about everything is layered under Protection Field *except* PFF itself. Pretty dumb if you ask me. Given that, the only bubble I use on my PFF characters is Field Surge. Especially since the added shield gets layered *over* PFF now.
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From what I understand just about everything is layered under Protection Field *except* PFF itself. Pretty dumb if you ask me. Given that, the only bubble I use on my PFF characters is Field Surge. Especially since the added shield gets layered *over* PFF now.
I apologize if this was answered. Is the ff provided by energy wave adv hardened particle matrix also under pff?
I apologize if this was answered. Is the ff provided by energy wave adv hardened particle matrix also under pff?
I believe so, the only confirmed bubble which works with PFF as in it takes damage before PFF does is Field Surge, all other bubbles and a certain IDF form are underneath PFF. In fact IDF doesnt even absorb any damage if you have PFF slotted.
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As was stated previously, no I don't stat Con in my builds because I have very little downtime on my shields. Field Surge recharges in less than a minute, as well as Masterful Dodge.
As for Resistances, they do apply over PFF itself. I have confirmed this through prior testing. Though I highly suggest dodge/avoid with PFF as it, to me, feels appropriate and with my current avoidance on Kr'yshte the damage I take from dodging is roughly the same as blocking.
IDF is layered under PFF and does mitigate the bleed through damage some when the shield gets hit.
I should have proper Internet this coming Wednesday. Keep the questions/suggestions flowing and I'll respond when I have the next opportunity. :biggrin:
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Hey gang, been away due to lack of proper Internet. Limited to my mobile currently.
As was stated previously, no I don't stat Con in my builds because I have very little downtime on my shields. Field Surge recharges in less than a minute, as well as Masterful Dodge.
As for Resistances, they do apply over PFF itself. I have confirmed this through prior testing. Though I highly suggest dodge/avoid with PFF as it, to me, feels appropriate and with my current avoidance on Kr'yshte the damage I take from dodging is roughly the same as blocking.
IDF is layered under PFF and does mitigate the bleed through damage some when the shield gets hit.
I should have proper Internet this coming Wednesday. Keep the questions/suggestions flowing and I'll respond when I have the next opportunity. :biggrin:
Intresting about your PFF and IDF mitigation, I have tested damage with and without IDF and oddly enough with IDF I take more damage (bleed through damage) and I still get the same error message with IDF not absorbing any damage. I went to go find some Unleashed players who would use DW on me and still I got:
Your Inertal Dampening Field absorbs 0 (98) damage.
BloodThirster does 2000 Slashing Damage to You with Dragon's Wrath.
This might just be as it doesnt work for The Impulse AT, but I spoke to a freeform and he said IDF does work under PFF and it works so that once is passive deactivates then it works.
I have removed my passive and I still get no absorption.
What am I doing wrong?
Also I got a patch a couple of days back, only a mini one and now my base damage for Force Cascade has gone down to 3k from 5k, I have 240 EGO and 312 END 204 INT, I thought it should be higher...
BTW, by following your advice and farming for Heroic Gear, I finally managed....
7.712 PFF :biggrin: (END, Ego and Int) 312, 236, 204
I am just wondering how I can increase it?
(Impulse AT here btw)
I still think bubbles and PFF should have some innate damage reduction/absorb.
Because even with high shielding, it goes down in a matter of seconds when I go up against other players, Unless I block....
I also stupidly didnt read your advice about VIPER and now I officially HATE them. If I remember correctly now all classes of VIPER (Henchmen etc) have the ability to bypass PFF with at least one of their attacks. I went into a unity mission and tested it...only Infiltrators caused damage to my Personal force field with their kicks and throwing knives. All others were not touching my PFF and quickly drained my HP...which is a shame I think.
BTW, by following your advice and farming for Heroic Gear, I finally managed....
7.712 PFF :biggrin: (END, Ego and Int) 312, 236, 204 Great!
I am just wondering how I can increase it? Higher level Mods in your equipment at this point.
(Impulse AT here btw)
I still think bubbles and PFF should have some innate damage reduction/absorb. Check your defense stat and adjust your gear accordingly. As an Impluse your mitigation to PFF will be your defense stat *or* your dodge/avoid if you decided to go for high tier dodge/avoid gear.
Because even with high shielding, it goes down in a matter of seconds when I go up against other players, Unless I block....
I also stupidly didnt read your advice about VIPER and now I officially HATE them. If I remember correctly now all classes of VIPER (Henchmen etc) have the ability to bypass PFF with at least one of their attacks. I went into a unity mission and tested it...only Infiltrators caused damage to my Personal force field with their kicks and throwing knives. All others were not touching my PFF and quickly drained my HP...which is a shame I think.I hate them too. :biggrin: So you're not alone there. My hate for them started when I was running a pure Force w/ PFF build (Which Protogen might go back to being that.) and discovered the easiest way to kill them off is to line up the enemies for a well placed Cascade.
Sorry it took a while to get to this.
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BTW update on my PFF str, not sure what I increased stats wise but every mod is rank 6 so far and that leaves me with 7.769k hp PFF.:biggrin:
But I am sort of worried about my low damage out put against NPC's and players. Granted they all have resistance (players considerably higher than most NPC) but I am usually hitting 4.3k full charge rank 3 Force Cascade, if I buff it with Gravitational polarity I get 4.9-5.3k at best.
Also the issue with IDF and PFF interactions is a shame Why they cant fix this or give the option to pick concentration instead I dont know.
One of my friends suggested that IDF be made into an AoE active defensive with a similar animation and mechanic to the tank jets on PTS. Sounds like a good idea as I LOVE the shield animation *-*
I think I'll be sticking to defense for mitigation as that seems to be best for me perhaps, but then again I dodge quite alot it battle which doesnt really make sense since my dodge chance is miserably low, I dodge blocked a DW for around 2k dmg and my avoidance is only 20% and I looked in combat and it was meant to be 7k damage, so I am not sure where that damage went xD
I still think PFF should grant a "recharge" power - you place it on your power tray and it allows you to redirect your personal energy into your PFF. It would have a high energy cost and a fairly lengthy maintain time, but would at least offer another way to rebuild your PFF.
I really like this thread guys (HUGE PFF fan, wish it was better in TANK role). On the above quote, why not have a MAINTAIN Force power that drains your END and FAST heals the PFF? I like the concept. Its like the more I concentrate, the better my PFF. COULD be useful, especially if they allow it to be MAINTAINED while blocking (diminishing returns on that one though, too easy to abuse).
I finished my PFF ninja. ^_^ I accomplished my endgame goal! xD Maybe I should set a new goal. :P I can't post the video until Friday. Still haven't needed Field Surge yet. :P
So, GUARDIAN (my Might/Chainsaw Gauntlet/PFF Tank) has Guardian/Vindicator specs, and is taking advantage of not needing CON in order to have a high effective health pool by having DEX as a secondary and stacking Overpower on top of it. Will I be able to get decent Defence and still stack Dodge/Avoid with gear and Parry/EM? Or should I just focus on one or the other?
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So, GUARDIAN (my Might/Chainsaw Gauntlet/PFF Tank) has Guardian/Vindicator specs, and is taking advantage of not needing CON in order to have a high effective health pool by having DEX as a secondary and stacking Overpower on top of it. Will I be able to get decent Defence and still stack Dodge/Avoid with gear and Parry/EM? Or should I just focus on one or the other?
I recommend focusing on one. Personally, I would go for dodge/avoid over defense as with a high enough dodge/avoid rating your shields can actually regen slightly faster than the incoming damage. It's not often but it does happen. My Munitions(Pistols)/PFF tank experiences this and it's awesome. :biggrin:
I finished my PFF ninja. ^_^ I accomplished my endgame goal! xD Maybe I should set a new goal. :P I can't post the video until Friday. Still haven't needed Field Surge yet. :P
Thanks, mate!
I must see this. o.o
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I believe the shield strength on that build was about 6,200; I'd have to check it for a more exact number; I made a second build that is still not geared properly, but it is a more accurate test as the gear is closer to what I will be using.
Current shield strength is 6,364 shield points. Dodge chance is 39% at idle, avoidance 58%; when I use evasive maneuvers, it goes up to 63%, unless it's double-stacked, then it's 87%, masterful dodge notwithstanding.
Once I fix certain things on the second one, I'll be able to perform a more accurate test, as the gear/build will be closer to what I want it to be. Maybe I'll release the details about the final version of the second one if anyone wants to try it. For now, you can see it in action here.
I believe the shield strength on that build was about 6,200; I'd have to check it for a more exact number; I made a second build that is still not geared properly, but it is a more accurate test as the gear is closer to what I will be using.
Current shield strength is 6,364 shield points. Dodge chance is 39% at idle, avoidance 58%; when I use evasive maneuvers, it goes up to 63%, unless it's double-stacked, then it's 87%, masterful dodge notwithstanding.
Once I fix certain things on the second one, I'll be able to perform a more accurate test, as the gear/build will be closer to what I want it to be. Maybe I'll release the details about the final version of the second one if anyone wants to try it. For now, you can see it in action here.
When I double stack Evasive on Protogen he has ~107% dodge. :biggrin: Avoidance is at 78% while maintaining Lead Tempest.
While this is all well and good....I'd like to see Defence do more for resistances in terms of PFF.
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hax! I never use the dodge advantage on gun kata... I prefer the epic damage. :P 87% is enough for me :P I also need to make a few more changes to that build to get it to where it needs to be; none of them grant 100% dodge lol
hax! I never use the dodge advantage on gun kata... I prefer the epic damage. :P 87% is enough for me :P I also need to make a few more changes to that build to get it to where it needs to be; none of them grant 100% dodge lol
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Also nice build.
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Going to post a video today of the final test version of that build, then run through Demonflame again lol
Hopefully Dolly still has those Precision gloves I gave her. :P I'll sneak some mods into her purse and send her off to PTS. Then if everything is good maybe I can put all the details here, as well as some basic tips for PFF mastery that I've learned. ^_~
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The problem that I?m facing is that I want a hero that (at current level 21) can fire off a fully charged Force Cascade, while still having some defenses. I can do this with the PF build since the passive is AoPM and this gives me a sufficient boost to End and Int to get off a full FC, plus it gives me a good Ego for the ranged damage, good Rec to regain energy, a bit of Dex for the random crit, some Pre to help with the PF, and some Con to help with survivability. Going solo around smallish mobs he can usually angle his FC to knock out 2-3 in one blast, making it relatively easy to take the others out before the PF goes down. So far he?s usually only in trouble when he?s with his super group facing a much larger mob. Then he?s a much bigger target and draws fire from all directions.
With the version using PFF I just can?t get the stats necessary to fire off a full FC. A present, even when fully charged, it is only at 2/3-3/4 power because the End + Int + Cost Reduction just aren?t high enough.
Just want to emphasize again that he?s only level 21, with typical stats and gear for the level. I.e. he?s not someone with major stats of 300 and all purple 3 slot gear.
Professor FutureMan: PF Build
Powers:
Level 1: Force Bolts (Energy Refraction) [+2]
Level 1: Force Shield (Force Sheath) [+1]
Level 6: Force Eruption (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 6: Jet Boots (R2) [+1]
Level 8: Aura of Primal Majesty (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 11: Concentration (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 14: Protection Field (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 17: Force Cascade (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 20: Force Geyser
Level 23: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 26: Support Drones (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 29: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind) [+2]
Level 32: Field Surge (R2) [+2]
Level 35: Crushing Wave (R2) [+2]
Level 35: Teleport
Level 38: Imbue (R2) [+2]
The Impulse 10 Int, 10 Ego, 10 End, 8 Rec
Primary: Super Ego
Secondary: Super End
Secondary: Super Rec
Daredevil 5 Ego, 5 End
Worldly 5 Ego, 5 Rec
Amazing Stamina 5 End, 5 Rec
Academics 5 Int, 5 Ego
Investigator 5 Int, 5 Rec
Command Training 3 Int, 3 Ego, 3 Pre, 3 Int
Ego Tree
Mental Endurance 3
Force of Will 2
Insight 3
Aggression 2
Overseer Tree
Administer 3
Overseer Aura 3
Enhanced Gear 3
Conservation 1
Guardian Tree
Fortified Gear 3
Make it Count 3
Best Defense 3
Tenacious 1
Ego Mastery
Professor FutureMan: PFF Build
Powers:
Level 1: Force Bolts -- Energy Refraction [+2]
Level 1: Force Geyser ? (R2) [+2]
Level 6: Force Eruption (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 6: Jet Boots (R2) [+1]
Level 8: PFF (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 11: Force Shield -- Force Sheath [+1]
Level 14: Field Surge (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 17: Force Cascade (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 20: Concentration (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 23: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 26: Masterful Dodge
Level 29: Conviction (R2, R3) [+4]
Level 32: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind) [+2]
Level 35: Support Drones (R2) [+2]
Level 35: Teleport
Level 38: Sonic Device [+2]
The Impulse 10 Int, 10 Ego, 10 End, 8 Rec
Primary: Super End
Secondary: Super Int
Secondary: Super Ego
Field Ops Training 3 Con, 2 End, 3 Int, 3 Ego, 2 Rec
Daredevil 5 Ego, 5 End
Investigator 5 End, 5 Int
Academics 5 Int, 5 Ego
Showmanship 5 Ego, 5 Pre
Command Training 3 Int, 3 Ego, 3 Pre, 3 Rec
End Tree
Readiness 3
Gear Utilization 3
Outburst 2
Hardened 2
Overseer Tree
Administer 3
Overseer Aura 3
Enhanced Gear 3
Conservation 1
Guardian Tree
Fortified Gear 3
Make it Count 3
Best Defense 3
Tenacious 1
Endurance Mastery
My main question is... is CON useful as a Primary or Secondary SS??
From the feeling I get in here, it feels like I just should be worried about the shield not decaying, therefore my base hp is not AS important as other tank builds.
Also... how do you feel about (at this point) resistance vs dodge for PFF??
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CON I would say is a useful secondary for you as you are using lazer swords so Dex or STR as primary I would imagine with CON and INT secondary? PFF scales with primary SS and is affected for about 100-300 pFF points by secondary SS's respectively.
Defense/resistance is applied after PFF takes 90% of damage or so, apparently dodge and aviodance is one of the things infront of PFF. So dodge is the way to go I think...as PFF will take less when you dodge something.
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My point is... what's the role of CON for a good PFF tank..... to serve as cushion if the shield happens to go down??? I see that on the builds of Cyrone he doesn't stat CON, so that's why I was wondering.
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Well I guess in PFF's current state Con wouldnt hurt to have and as you are going to be quite close range I'd say PFF would go down quite fast and a little cushion never hurt anyone.
It is true that there are some stats which are better advised to use with PFF like Ego and End but PFF scales with Super Stats so there really should not be any issues, really.
A good PFF tank would have to forcibly (no pun intended ;p) build around PFF to keep it up which could end up in a reduction of effectiveness, then again I have never done a PFF freeform so, this is just from what I know already.
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I think your original post is self-explanatory, so I'm going to make another attempt at mastering PFF. ^_~
Thanks.
I apologize if this was answered. Is the ff provided by energy wave adv hardened particle matrix also under pff?
I believe so, the only confirmed bubble which works with PFF as in it takes damage before PFF does is Field Surge, all other bubbles and a certain IDF form are underneath PFF. In fact IDF doesnt even absorb any damage if you have PFF slotted.
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As was stated previously, no I don't stat Con in my builds because I have very little downtime on my shields. Field Surge recharges in less than a minute, as well as Masterful Dodge.
As for Resistances, they do apply over PFF itself. I have confirmed this through prior testing. Though I highly suggest dodge/avoid with PFF as it, to me, feels appropriate and with my current avoidance on Kr'yshte the damage I take from dodging is roughly the same as blocking.
IDF is layered under PFF and does mitigate the bleed through damage some when the shield gets hit.
I should have proper Internet this coming Wednesday. Keep the questions/suggestions flowing and I'll respond when I have the next opportunity. :biggrin:
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Intresting about your PFF and IDF mitigation, I have tested damage with and without IDF and oddly enough with IDF I take more damage (bleed through damage) and I still get the same error message with IDF not absorbing any damage. I went to go find some Unleashed players who would use DW on me and still I got:
Your Inertal Dampening Field absorbs 0 (98) damage.
BloodThirster does 2000 Slashing Damage to You with Dragon's Wrath.
This might just be as it doesnt work for The Impulse AT, but I spoke to a freeform and he said IDF does work under PFF and it works so that once is passive deactivates then it works.
I have removed my passive and I still get no absorption.
What am I doing wrong?
Also I got a patch a couple of days back, only a mini one and now my base damage for Force Cascade has gone down to 3k from 5k, I have 240 EGO and 312 END 204 INT, I thought it should be higher...
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7.712 PFF :biggrin: (END, Ego and Int) 312, 236, 204
I am just wondering how I can increase it?
(Impulse AT here btw)
I still think bubbles and PFF should have some innate damage reduction/absorb.
Because even with high shielding, it goes down in a matter of seconds when I go up against other players, Unless I block....
I also stupidly didnt read your advice about VIPER and now I officially HATE them. If I remember correctly now all classes of VIPER (Henchmen etc) have the ability to bypass PFF with at least one of their attacks. I went into a unity mission and tested it...only Infiltrators caused damage to my Personal force field with their kicks and throwing knives. All others were not touching my PFF and quickly drained my HP...which is a shame I think.
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Sorry it took a while to get to this.
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No problem great to hear from you again!
BTW update on my PFF str, not sure what I increased stats wise but every mod is rank 6 so far and that leaves me with 7.769k hp PFF.:biggrin:
But I am sort of worried about my low damage out put against NPC's and players. Granted they all have resistance (players considerably higher than most NPC) but I am usually hitting 4.3k full charge rank 3 Force Cascade, if I buff it with Gravitational polarity I get 4.9-5.3k at best.
Also the issue with IDF and PFF interactions is a shame
One of my friends suggested that IDF be made into an AoE active defensive with a similar animation and mechanic to the tank jets on PTS. Sounds like a good idea as I LOVE the shield animation *-*
I think I'll be sticking to defense for mitigation as that seems to be best for me perhaps, but then again I dodge quite alot it battle which doesnt really make sense since my dodge chance is miserably low, I dodge blocked a DW for around 2k dmg and my avoidance is only 20% and I looked in combat and it was meant to be 7k damage, so I am not sure where that damage went xD
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I really like this thread guys (HUGE PFF fan, wish it was better in TANK role). On the above quote, why not have a MAINTAIN Force power that drains your END and FAST heals the PFF? I like the concept. Its like the more I concentrate, the better my PFF. COULD be useful, especially if they allow it to be MAINTAINED while blocking (diminishing returns on that one though, too easy to abuse).
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I think Field Surge should come with PFF like Shadow Strike/NW
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I recommend focusing on one. Personally, I would go for dodge/avoid over defense as with a high enough dodge/avoid rating your shields can actually regen slightly faster than the incoming damage. It's not often but it does happen. My Munitions(Pistols)/PFF tank experiences this and it's awesome. :biggrin:
I must see this. o.o
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I ran into a snag (as you know :P) with this version, but I came up with a better idea. I'll make another video. For now, watch.
*claps* Very Nice build I must say your PFF upkeep was great!!
All I want to know...is PFF field strength and how high was your dodge?
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Current shield strength is 6,364 shield points. Dodge chance is 39% at idle, avoidance 58%; when I use evasive maneuvers, it goes up to 63%, unless it's double-stacked, then it's 87%, masterful dodge notwithstanding.
Once I fix certain things on the second one, I'll be able to perform a more accurate test, as the gear/build will be closer to what I want it to be. Maybe I'll release the details about the final version of the second one if anyone wants to try it. For now, you can see it in action here.
When I double stack Evasive on Protogen he has ~107% dodge. :biggrin: Avoidance is at 78% while maintaining Lead Tempest.
While this is all well and good....I'd like to see Defence do more for resistances in terms of PFF.
"There is only one way to support a PFF tank: Send Cyrone lots of money weekly... because he's the only one to successfully be a true PFF Tank." - chuckwolf
hax! I never use the dodge advantage on gun kata... I prefer the epic damage. :P 87% is enough for me :P I also need to make a few more changes to that build to get it to where it needs to be; none of them grant 100% dodge lol
I see yew!
Also nice build.
Also remind me to hit yew with mah foam finga
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Hopefully Dolly still has those Precision gloves I gave her. :P I'll sneak some mods into her purse and send her off to PTS. Then if everything is good maybe I can put all the details here, as well as some basic tips for PFF mastery that I've learned. ^_~
I realized I really didn't need conviction... took it as a precaution (training wheels)
Stalker! lol... So I guess that was you hitting me while I was snoozing in the ren center.
Wasnt me I was half awake also (damn this game is exciting huh ). LoL was there blame him
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!