Not pushing these costume change emotes out now leads me to believe they want to monetize them more? My thoughts were all would be available today, by the methods available on the PTS. Questionte store, drifter, & so on. So they will put all these emotes in a lockbox?
You lost all credibility the second you lashed out in anger.
Also, what do you expect, they are "COSTUME" related, so it's only for that OC you pick, how excaly do you think costume slots on that character, will work for others?, its key to EACH slot, for that certain costume.
Uh... Aura's are really just a special type of costume unlock and Dev were instructed to create a new area and UI for them specifically so they could become character bound items to increase revenue. It would have made vastly more sense if auras were purchased once like costume bits and bound to use on account with UI in the tailor per costume instead, but would have made less money that way.
These new character bound transformation emotes are the same. they are being unlocked per character instead of per account to increase the cost to us, and that's just something we have to suck up, even though it rather pisses me off. Visual Customization should be all account unlocks, because if you delete a character you lose everything you bound to it, no matter what you paid for; character bound items like auras and transformations are just flushed away.
This is extra rude to people at the character cap. they will one day have to choose deleting old characters to make new ones, and anything they bound to those old characters will be lost.
It would have stung less if these items were 'character slot bound', instead.. that way even if the character were recycled, at least aura slots, auras, emotes, transformations, and vehicles bound to it would still be there for the new character.
Honestly though, many of these things should have just been costed higher, two to three times as much each, and made account wide, or had an account wide purchase option :-/ IMHO.
Let's assume for one second I DO spend hours on end standing in Rencen (which I don't cause I'm hyper and can't stay put for long if you see me standing around I'm probably afk watching a video or sth)
Who do you think the devs would spend more time and resources on?
The guy who spends money on the game, as you put it, buying furry costumes and proceeds to stay put doing nothing
OR
The raging manchild that is constantly looking for new exploits to abuse giving me extra work on my already limited time and resources?
Which do you think will favor on the time/investment balance?
Like, you are even providing arguments against yourself, did you think this through at all
Honestly though, many of these things should have just been costed higher, two to three times as much each, and made account wide, or had an account wide purchase option :-/ IMHO.
How is that MMO you are running doing?
I mean, even if our dev team is small, behind them is probably a large accountant team with scary things like calculators and balances that think this is the best way for the game to break even and maybe even turn in a profit, and I would never argue with a guy with a calculator.
@lezard21 there is no need for effort, dev offers nothing but nerf nerf nerf and no reward only to the RPERs and furries like yourself who do nothing at all besides stand idol in ren center, and who dont know how badly the constant nerf with NOTHING to compensate besides a retcon token, effect the players like myself. Arguement isnt necessary, as long as she's dev they are just going to lose more and more players. farewell
Quit relying on bugs and git gud. None of your toons is legit, all you do is exploit.. whether it is fall damage + DoT, knock ups,or any other type glitch. You're always the first to jump onto the bandwagon. You're Quasionda 2, only good at pvp when you can use cheats.
Don't forget the shadowform/smokenade perma stealth glitch
I'm not gonna lie, I too am that Catastrophic Pummeling went live in it's current state.
I still hold hope that the power was forcefully released cause of the Lockbox and that it will receive further tweaks to it's FX or mechanics while you keep working in the SB update, but then there's the Meteor Blaze case so...
Oh well, glad my crowd control suggestion was taken into account \o/
THIS^
The visuals are underwelming, this still feels like a Martial Ultimate and nothing like might
POWERFRAME REVAMPS, NEW POWERS and BUG FIXES > Recycled Content and Events and even costumes at this point Introvert guy who use CO to make his characters playable and get experimental with Viable FF Theme builds! Running out of Unique FF builds due to the lack of updates and synergies! Playing since 1 February 2011 128 + Characters (21 ATs, 107 FFs) ALTitis for Life!
I'm not gonna lie, I too am that Catastrophic Pummeling went live in it's current state.
I still hold hope that the power was forcefully released cause of the Lockbox and that it will receive further tweaks to it's FX or mechanics while you keep working in the SB update, but then there's the Meteor Blaze case so...
Oh well, glad my crowd control suggestion was taken into account \o/
THIS^
The visuals are underwelming, this still feels like a Martial Ultimate and nothing like might
I did hope they'd delay it atleast a week to improve the ultimate and stuff, I mean honestly I doubt players would mind waiting, to get new stuff if it's for the purpose of making it better.
i'ts still pretty cool tho imo
but i hope they can modify it a bit as lezard said.
I did hope they'd delay it atleast a week to improve the ultimate and stuff, I mean honestly I doubt players would mind waiting, to get new stuff if it's for the purpose of making it better.
i'ts still pretty cool tho imo
but i hope they can modify it a bit as lezard said.
I hope so, I DO WANT TO LOVE this power, I don't hate it but it needs improvement visually to match with Brick
POWERFRAME REVAMPS, NEW POWERS and BUG FIXES > Recycled Content and Events and even costumes at this point Introvert guy who use CO to make his characters playable and get experimental with Viable FF Theme builds! Running out of Unique FF builds due to the lack of updates and synergies! Playing since 1 February 2011 128 + Characters (21 ATs, 107 FFs) ALTitis for Life!
I did hope they'd delay it atleast a week to improve the ultimate and stuff, I mean honestly I doubt players would mind waiting, to get new stuff if it's for the purpose of making it better.
i'ts still pretty cool tho imo
but i hope they can modify it a bit as lezard said.
I hope so, I DO WANT TO LOVE this power, I don't hate it but it needs improvement visually to match with Brick
I did hope they'd delay it atleast a week to improve the ultimate and stuff, I mean honestly I doubt players would mind waiting, to get new stuff if it's for the purpose of making it better.
i'ts still pretty cool tho imo
but i hope they can modify it a bit as lezard said.
I hope so, I DO WANT TO LOVE this power, I don't hate it but it needs improvement visually to match with Brick
I agree so much, this power fits my speedster (who uses heavy weapons scythe with haymaker) it fits her so well lol.
So I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but you can get the Flag Cape and Star Brooch from the Gold Vendor for free now. I am a silver account so I couldn't claim this before. I hope the rest of the monthly gold pieces will be made available too.
So I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but you can get the Flag Cape and Star Brooch from the Gold Vendor for free now. I am a silver account so I couldn't claim this before. I hope the rest of the monthly gold pieces will be made available too.
OH SNAP!
I'm may end up making Captain Greece after all
POWERFRAME REVAMPS, NEW POWERS and BUG FIXES > Recycled Content and Events and even costumes at this point Introvert guy who use CO to make his characters playable and get experimental with Viable FF Theme builds! Running out of Unique FF builds due to the lack of updates and synergies! Playing since 1 February 2011 128 + Characters (21 ATs, 107 FFs) ALTitis for Life!
So I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but you can get the Flag Cape and Star Brooch from the Gold Vendor for free now. I am a silver account so I couldn't claim this before. I hope the rest of the monthly gold pieces will be made available too.
those 2 pieces likely free right now for the event
Not pushing these costume change emotes out now leads me to believe they want to monetize them more? My thoughts were all would be available today, by the methods available on the PTS. Questionte store, drifter, & so on. So they will put all these emotes in a lockbox?
they won't, stop theorizing.
I was kind of hoping an important person would reply to my comment, preferably a dev with horns .
Not pushing these costume change emotes out now leads me to believe they want to monetize them more? My thoughts were all would be available today, by the methods available on the PTS. Questionte store, drifter, & so on. So they will put all these emotes in a lockbox?
they won't, stop theorizing.
I was kind of hoping an important person would reply to my comment, preferably a dev with horns .
well your jumping to conclusions and accusing devs of things.
kaiserin herself said they will slowly release more free ones, and slowly add them to the respective stores.
I'm aware of at least three specs that have effects that do not match their tooltips in important ways that make them much better than they're supposed to be. The wardicator loop is not one of them (it's dumb that it ever worked that way, but it is consistent with the tooltip).
I have to confess, years ago when I started playing with the Freeform system I would blindly defend the existance of this Loop to embarce the idea of a Well-rounded hero
But the past 3-4 I had been building FF characters with different SPEC Combos and grew to understand about Game Balance better (I still prefer using Vindicator+ Avenger/Brawler for DPS who can Utilize Set-Up AND Preemtive Strike and the proper TANKING set up with Protector)
Those days being well-rounded as DPS in Alerts is not hard (since alerts have such low difficulty) and the powerframe revamps brought a lot of new tools to play with
It made me realized that this was indeed an overperforming exploit and that people became too lazy with it since they wouldn't try another SPEC Combo
so I'm not surprised neither upset that it got fix
However what makes me upset is the lack of bug fixes and the buff of underperforming and broken SPECs
Because DAMN IT, i want Arbiter and Overseer to be more useful and popular
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On this Wardicator thing. First, props to Cryptic for fixing this huge exploit being used for game advantage. I'm rather stunned such a thing was apparently commonplace enough to have an actual name coined by the community. I hope I haven't been arguing with any of those individuals about the E-word. That would be...awkward.
After I posted this I found out it is infinitely more awkward than I ever imagined...lol.
If it would help you sleep at night, both my tanks were and are Prot/Warden and Prot/sentinel so I can use the E-word willy nilly o3o
Wardicator:
We've literally had years to prepare for this adjustment. Seriously, we were told a long time ago about the infinite loop bug. Even with the bug fix, Wardicator still provides oodles of defense. I'm not sure why some people are so upset.
Costume Transformations:
For Supers fans this is quite amazing. This is first and foremost a comic book based MMO, nice to see a nod being made towards that.
Blockbuster Costume
Wow! That's a really nice costume set! Quite beautiful and thematically fitting to the games hero setting. Great job!
POWERFRAME REVAMPS, NEW POWERS and BUG FIXES > Recycled Content and Events and even costumes at this point Introvert guy who use CO to make his characters playable and get experimental with Viable FF Theme builds! Running out of Unique FF builds due to the lack of updates and synergies! Playing since 1 February 2011 128 + Characters (21 ATs, 107 FFs) ALTitis for Life!
Honestly I'm just having a good laugh about the whole situation. It's so absurd what I found when I bothered to discord instances of Wardicator to find out who was using the exploit that I would have spit out any beverage I had been drinking at the time.
Always nice to see some five-post forum newbie giving it the Widemouth Frog and talking crud about "Exploits".
Wardicator has been in the game for as long as I've played it, it hasn't been a secret, and yet that hasn't stopped several dev teams introducing Justice Gear, Distinguished Gear, etc, etc, all with set bonuses that served no other real purpose other than to feed the Wardicator loop. Did they know what they were doing and did it anyway, or did they just not care?
Yes, they've fixed it now, but not very well; and you can be darn sure that anyone who actually felt they were exploiting the game (rather than just playing an open goal) has already moved on to whatever spec it is which is still broken.
Wardicator wasn't an exploit, it was a bug. Exploit implies that you are doing something to cause it - you didn't do anything to cause Wardicator to happen, it just did. And it's fixed now, so that's the past. Having tanked cosmics on my wardicator invulnerability tank today, and having watched a wardicator tank solo tank dino, I think it's safe to say that many people's worries were overblown and that the intended numbers for this spec combination are still viable. Of course many of us already knew that, but now it's canon.
The problem is with "fixing" Wardicator is that it also affects Guardicator. That defensive loop... not it's offensive part was the a large basic of my Hybrid character's PFF being a survivable passive. the defense boost meant the Field itself took less damage from every hit, much like having DR on the field itself. Now it literally takes 21% more damage per hit. That's a huge amount when your're not blocking every attack.
PS: I suggest a comprimise, Let ward/guardicator take defense/offense from those other sources, but limit the amount of stacks they can gain from it. The current nerf is just too much defensive loss.
Wardicator wasn't an exploit, it was a bug. Exploit implies that you are doing something to cause it - you didn't do anything to cause Wardicator to happen, it just did. And it's fixed now, so that's the past. Having tanked cosmics on my wardicator invulnerability tank today, and having watched a wardicator tank solo tank dino, I think it's safe to say that many people's worries were overblown and that the intended numbers for this spec combination are still viable. Of course many of us already knew that, but now it's canon.
I think people will be fine when blocking, it's those times when you're not blocking or don't feel the need to block such as fighting mobs in alerts, LI, etc. that you'll notice you're taking more damage if you rely on defense and not dodge for your DR.
It does /really/ require the healers to be on point 100% of the time though. Especially once that baby comes out that dmg spikes way up. I managed to do it today, but I had a ton of good healing.
All players who have Aggressive Stance or The Best Defense specializations have received a free respec. Just a reminder, free respecs do not stack.
woohoo, thank you~ (woulda been happy with simply being able to redo the specs only buuuut i think this is helpful to those who kinda ended up building around both those specs together)
(this was on Live, r7 mods, justice gear and OV gear, no DUC)
As you can see, including it in rotation gave me 700 more DPS, but this was mostly achived by following a strict rotation of using an AO, then using Catastrophic Pummeling so that the Overpower debuff would be up till the 2nd AO came out of it's shared cooldown. In other words, Catastrophic Pummeling makes for a good bridge power for your AOs.
All this done in the controlled environment of a PH Dummy who is not attacking me back.
On Cosmics I didn't parser but my overall scores were lower than I am used to, but this might be me just screwing up while I get familiar with the new Ult. Finding a good opening to use a 5-6 second mantain is not an easy task, especially at dino.
I will however protest about the watered down CC resist this power got when compared to Fury of the Dragon. Timing Fury of the Dragon to avoid a Dino hold is already finnicky enough and it already kinda requires you to "guess" when the Dino is about to use Hold so that you activate Fury of The Dragon almost immediately after...
but with Catastrophic Pummeling having a 2 second delay, the only way you could use it to avoid a hold mechanic is just straight up by guessing.
So I'll still hope that this power gets some more love in the future weeks, cause as much as I want to love it, it just doesn't feel right in my Might toon.
I think people will be fine when blocking, it's those times when you're not blocking or don't feel the need to block such as fighting mobs in alerts, LI, etc. that you'll notice you're taking more damage if you rely on defense and not dodge for your DR.
You'll be fine in all those situations. I'm fine in them without wardicator at all, so you'll be fine with wardicator as it is now. Click the link in my sig to see why. tl;dr - you never needed any of that defense to begin with
Costume Transformations
We are adding a new type of item into the game, Costume Transformations! These items will give you the ability to play an animation and effect when changing to a costume!
Costume transformations bind to the character that unlocks them.
Really?
REALLLYYYYY????
For the last farging time, no one wants these things to be character only unlocks you greedy bastitches
You lost all credibility the second you lashed out in anger.
Also, what do you expect, they are "COSTUME" related, so it's only for that OC you pick, how excaly do you think costume slots on that character, will work for others?, its key to EACH slot, for that certain costume.
Where's the anger again?
Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
You lost all credibility the second you lashed out in anger.
Also, what do you expect, they are "COSTUME" related, so it's only for that OC you pick, how exactly do you think costume slots on that character, will work for others?, its key to EACH slot, for that certain costume.
No, me mimicking Maroni from Johnny Dangerously isn't me angry.
It's the character only UNLOCK, as opposed to account wide unlock I objected to. How you misread that I'm not quite sure.
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For the last farging time, no one wants these things to be character only unlocks you greedy bastitches
We are waiting for your alternative proposal on how an MMO can make money. Cause you know, MMOs require money to run.
Check my post history, I tried that years ago in regards to Hideouts and other issues. It's not as if account wide unlocks don't make money.
I mean costumes themselves are account wide..
Are you saying they don't make money?
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You lost all credibility the second you lashed out in anger.
Also, what do you expect, they are "COSTUME" related, so it's only for that OC you pick, how excaly do you think costume slots on that character, will work for others?, its key to EACH slot, for that certain costume.
Uh... Aura's are really just a special type of costume unlock and Dev were instructed to create a new area and UI for them specifically so they could become character bound items to increase revenue. It would have made vastly more sense if auras were purchased once like costume bits and bound to use on account with UI in the tailor per costume instead, but would have made less money that way.
These new character bound transformation emotes are the same. they are being unlocked per character instead of per account to increase the cost to us, and that's just something we have to suck up, even though it rather pisses me off. Visual Customization should be all account unlocks, because if you delete a character you lose everything you bound to it, no matter what you paid for; character bound items like auras and transformations are just flushed away.
This is extra rude to people at the character cap. they will one day have to choose deleting old characters to make new ones, and anything they bound to those old characters will be lost.
It would have stung less if these items were 'character slot bound', instead.. that way even if the character were recycled, at least aura slots, auras, emotes, transformations, and vehicles bound to it would still be there for the new character.
Honestly though, many of these things should have just been costed higher, two to three times as much each, and made account wide, or had an account wide purchase option :-/ IMHO.
This ^^^^
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they won't, stop theorizing.
Uh... Aura's are really just a special type of costume unlock and Dev were instructed to create a new area and UI for them specifically so they could become character bound items to increase revenue. It would have made vastly more sense if auras were purchased once like costume bits and bound to use on account with UI in the tailor per costume instead, but would have made less money that way.
These new character bound transformation emotes are the same. they are being unlocked per character instead of per account to increase the cost to us, and that's just something we have to suck up, even though it rather pisses me off. Visual Customization should be all account unlocks, because if you delete a character you lose everything you bound to it, no matter what you paid for; character bound items like auras and transformations are just flushed away.
This is extra rude to people at the character cap. they will one day have to choose deleting old characters to make new ones, and anything they bound to those old characters will be lost.
It would have stung less if these items were 'character slot bound', instead.. that way even if the character were recycled, at least aura slots, auras, emotes, transformations, and vehicles bound to it would still be there for the new character.
Honestly though, many of these things should have just been costed higher, two to three times as much each, and made account wide, or had an account wide purchase option :-/ IMHO.
Let's assume for one second I DO spend hours on end standing in Rencen (which I don't cause I'm hyper and can't stay put for long
Who do you think the devs would spend more time and resources on?
The guy who spends money on the game, as you put it, buying furry costumes and proceeds to stay put doing nothing
OR
The raging manchild that is constantly looking for new exploits to abuse giving me extra work on my already limited time and resources?
Which do you think will favor on the time/investment balance?
Like, you are even providing arguments against yourself, did you think this through at all
How is that MMO you are running doing?
I mean, even if our dev team is small, behind them is probably a large accountant team with scary things like calculators and balances that think this is the best way for the game to break even and maybe even turn in a profit, and I would never argue with a guy with a calculator.
Don't forget the shadowform/smokenade perma stealth glitch
The visuals are underwelming, this still feels like a Martial Ultimate and nothing like might
I did hope they'd delay it atleast a week to improve the ultimate and stuff, I mean honestly I doubt players would mind waiting, to get new stuff if it's for the purpose of making it better.
i'ts still pretty cool tho imo
but i hope they can modify it a bit as lezard said.
I agree so much, this power fits my speedster (who uses heavy weapons scythe with haymaker) it fits her so well lol.
OH SNAP!
I'm may end up making Captain Greece after all
those 2 pieces likely free right now for the event
I was kind of hoping an important person would reply to my comment, preferably a dev with horns .
well your jumping to conclusions and accusing devs of things.
kaiserin herself said they will slowly release more free ones, and slowly add them to the respective stores.
Epic Stronghold
Block timing explained
But the past 3-4 I had been building FF characters with different SPEC Combos and grew to understand about Game Balance better (I still prefer using Vindicator+ Avenger/Brawler for DPS who can Utilize Set-Up AND Preemtive Strike and the proper TANKING set up with Protector)
Those days being well-rounded as DPS in Alerts is not hard (since alerts have such low difficulty) and the powerframe revamps brought a lot of new tools to play with
It made me realized that this was indeed an overperforming exploit and that people became too lazy with it since they wouldn't try another SPEC Combo
so I'm not surprised neither upset that it got fix
However what makes me upset is the lack of bug fixes and the buff of underperforming and broken SPECs
Because DAMN IT, i want Arbiter and Overseer to be more useful and popular
If it would help you sleep at night, both my tanks were and are Prot/Warden and Prot/sentinel so I can use the E-word willy nilly o3o
Wardicator:
We've literally had years to prepare for this adjustment. Seriously, we were told a long time ago about the infinite loop bug. Even with the bug fix, Wardicator still provides oodles of defense. I'm not sure why some people are so upset.
Costume Transformations:
For Supers fans this is quite amazing. This is first and foremost a comic book based MMO, nice to see a nod being made towards that.
Blockbuster Costume
Wow! That's a really nice costume set! Quite beautiful and thematically fitting to the games hero setting. Great job!
Click here to check out my costumes/milleniumguardian (MG) in-game/We need more tights, stances and moods
Always nice to see some five-post forum newbie giving it the Widemouth Frog and talking crud about "Exploits".
Wardicator has been in the game for as long as I've played it, it hasn't been a secret, and yet that hasn't stopped several dev teams introducing Justice Gear, Distinguished Gear, etc, etc, all with set bonuses that served no other real purpose other than to feed the Wardicator loop. Did they know what they were doing and did it anyway, or did they just not care?
Yes, they've fixed it now, but not very well; and you can be darn sure that anyone who actually felt they were exploiting the game (rather than just playing an open goal) has already moved on to whatever spec it is which is still broken.
Awesome, will the firewing tights also be getting this fix?
You guys should make a topic to discuss the meaning of the word Exploit.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
Doesn't refresh, or has a delay? It's had a 1-3s delay in application since it was changed to a single hit.
Epic Stronghold
Block timing explained
PS: I suggest a comprimise, Let ward/guardicator take defense/offense from those other sources, but limit the amount of stacks they can gain from it. The current nerf is just too much defensive loss.
I think people will be fine when blocking, it's those times when you're not blocking or don't feel the need to block such as fighting mobs in alerts, LI, etc. that you'll notice you're taking more damage if you rely on defense and not dodge for your DR.
Does not refresh at all, no matter how much I spam/fully charge DB on a target with any number of bleeds.
+1
edit: word mashing fixeded >.<
(this was on Live, r7 mods, justice gear and OV gear, no DUC)
As you can see, including it in rotation gave me 700 more DPS, but this was mostly achived by following a strict rotation of using an AO, then using Catastrophic Pummeling so that the Overpower debuff would be up till the 2nd AO came out of it's shared cooldown. In other words, Catastrophic Pummeling makes for a good bridge power for your AOs.
All this done in the controlled environment of a PH Dummy who is not attacking me back.
On Cosmics I didn't parser but my overall scores were lower than I am used to, but this might be me just screwing up while I get familiar with the new Ult. Finding a good opening to use a 5-6 second mantain is not an easy task, especially at dino.
I will however protest about the watered down CC resist this power got when compared to Fury of the Dragon. Timing Fury of the Dragon to avoid a Dino hold is already finnicky enough and it already kinda requires you to "guess" when the Dino is about to use Hold so that you activate Fury of The Dragon almost immediately after...
but with Catastrophic Pummeling having a 2 second delay, the only way you could use it to avoid a hold mechanic is just straight up by guessing.
So I'll still hope that this power gets some more love in the future weeks, cause as much as I want to love it, it just doesn't feel right in my Might toon.
You'll be fine in all those situations. I'm fine in them without wardicator at all, so you'll be fine with wardicator as it is now. Click the link in my sig to see why. tl;dr - you never needed any of that defense to begin with
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
Where's the anger again?
42 40s, LTSer.
You just won't quit with these ignoramus quotes huh?
42 40s, LTSer.
No, me mimicking Maroni from Johnny Dangerously isn't me angry.
It's the character only UNLOCK, as opposed to account wide unlock I objected to. How you misread that I'm not quite sure.
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Check my post history, I tried that years ago in regards to Hideouts and other issues. It's not as if account wide unlocks don't make money.
I mean costumes themselves are account wide..
Are you saying they don't make money?
Here we are now going to the West Side
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This ^^^^
Here we are now going to the West Side
Weapons in hand as we go for a ride
Some may come and some may stay
Watching out for a sunny day
Where there's love and darkness and my sidearm
In game as @forgemccain