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10/15/2015 Release Notes
New Releases
- A new +1 level-up pack is available in the C-Store for 200 Zen. This items grants the user a random piece of primary and secondary gear and an additional level of experience.
Onslaught Fixes
- Updated incorrect flavor text on the Gadgeteering "Boomerang Toss" power.
- Fixed a missing eyepatch costume piece.
- Lance Rain no longer incorrectly plays Medusa's VO
- Mind Break no longer incorrectly plays Medusa's VO
- Force Cascade no longer incorrectly plays Gravitar's VO
These player & moderator maintained bug threads are checked weekly by the development team:
- http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/championsonline/#/discussion/1203148/onslaught-bugs-and-balance-qol-concerns
- http://forum.arcgames.com/championsonline/discussion/1198089/known-power-bugs
- http://forum.arcgames.com/championsonline/discussion/1194284/champions-online-alerts-issues
- http://forum.arcgames.com/championsonline/discussion/1199083/costume-bug-list
- http://forum.arcgames.com/championsonline/discussion/1198119/compiled-list-of-bugs-issues-and-qol-concerns-version-2-0
New Releases
- A new +1 level-up pack is available in the C-Store for 200 Zen. This items grants the user a random piece of primary and secondary gear and an additional level of experience.
Onslaught Fixes
- Updated incorrect flavor text on the Gadgeteering "Boomerang Toss" power.
- Fixed a missing eyepatch costume piece.
- Lance Rain no longer incorrectly plays Medusa's VO
- Mind Break no longer incorrectly plays Medusa's VO
- Force Cascade no longer incorrectly plays Gravitar's VO
These player & moderator maintained bug threads are checked weekly by the development team:
- http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/championsonline/#/discussion/1203148/onslaught-bugs-and-balance-qol-concerns
- http://forum.arcgames.com/championsonline/discussion/1198089/known-power-bugs
- http://forum.arcgames.com/championsonline/discussion/1194284/champions-online-alerts-issues
- http://forum.arcgames.com/championsonline/discussion/1199083/costume-bug-list
- http://forum.arcgames.com/championsonline/discussion/1198119/compiled-list-of-bugs-issues-and-qol-concerns-version-2-0
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While we're on the topic, good fixes, finally got the VO fixed, but like I said above, about how well you deal with Feedback. I still see NO Hideout Rooms, in the PTS, nor being worked on, Im quite dispointed.
Edit: Soo, is this token limited time or perm?, or is this one of the useless "One time only" that you guys try to profit from?, a quick cash grab?, Or is it just a simple mistake?
there was a similar situation when the XP boosters were being made in "xp booster +" people said "make them give double XP and we'll buy them" but you guys didn't so people were more than happy to settle for thousands that are floating about thanks to lockboxes...
And with the pricing on the token, it's the same thing...sure you'll see some sales, but nowhere near as many as you would if it was 100 zen, rather than 200, because the thought of dropping $5 onto the game to get 5 levels is more appealing than the thought of dropping $5 onto the game and getting two levels and a key. (because people like "neat" things)
or could it be that you don't get to decide the pricing at all? (in which case you really should say so)
Kinda sad actually, I was going gonna buy a few of em, but due to the less than...great pricing, I'll just pass on em.
on a side note, thanks for fixing the voice issue things (at least i hope they are fixed)
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Ego Blade Breach (Rank 3) still has Medusa's VO however.
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An flying Foxbat?, Whaaa?
Also, there are people out there who, do care (Not as much as I do quiet frankly) but, they are people. Im sorry, its getting old, I kown but this is just unacceptable, they can do better then this, I kown they can, but the Facts are shining thought.
Let me tell you something, does anyone here play Warframe?, Yes?, Well do you remaber what happened to the forms, when they found out DE where making a partnership with PW?, Yes?, Well then, that bacily shows alot of points and facts about PW.
Im just pointing it out there, Im sorry this upsets everyone, I really am, but I want my voice to be heard, Even if I over do it. If I don't then PW will keep Inogreing feedback, Like they have done already and countless times
It's feedback, not demands. You made your feedback and the developers disagreed with it. If they think 100 Zen is too low, then they're not going to price it at 100 Zen just because some people don't like the price. As far as hideout rooms go, it's probably a low priority. Everyone's probably working on the new additions to the Halloween event.
The level up token says it's a limited time. The rest of your paragraph makes no sense. Yes, of course they're trying to make a profit. That's what businesses do. If you want them to be able to tackle more things (like your hideout rooms) then they need more money to pay more people to get that stuff done. This game isn't developed by volunteers.
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If the player base isn't happy with the pricing, then they aren't going to make a profit. That was the whole point of the suggestion of 100Z instead of 200Z. If you have customers ready to buy your product and they tell you that they would buy it if it wasn't overpriced, then it would be wise to at least meet them halfway. I mean, we are the pay check of your company...
Wow, sometimes I can't believe what appears on these forums...
At least, that's how most business work.
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but....
if they sold a hideout expansion that allowed mass fusing ( fuse all of 1 type of mod in one click) and a training room that gave 25% discounts on retcons i would buy that for 1000zen
It's madness, I tell you.
On a seperate note: I'm very happy with the price. It is a tad lower than I'd thought it'd be. I would perfer these things not be so easily obtainable and everyone just goes and raids the Q exchange for a measly 100z for a level? Play the darn game, sheesh. 200z in more than fair imo. It gets you that 1 level you just don't want to grind for plus a piece of gear.
Unlocking those hideouts' extra rooms and making them functional would be great especially for me who likes to do machinimas, but I don't think NOT getting that means they "didn't bother reading" and "refused to care for their players". They just have other stuff they are working on. I'm sure the devs want the game to be as successful and fun as the rest of us.
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LOL! God I hate it when we agree, but not this time.
Unfortunately that just leaves more time to troll the forums.
No Bloodmoon yet is certainly a little bit disappointing though.
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Thanks for the shout-out~!
Likewise. You're assuming you know how much these things are already selling. Just because you're not going to buy one because it's a buck too expensive doesn't mean nobody else will. The forums are a small section of the playerbase. They are by no means a majority.
I'll bet the sales and marketing teams at Cryptic have a much better handle on how much they should price things at with all their analytic data than you do with your personal opinion of how much you want to pay for it. I usually defer to the ones who likely have more information than those that don't. (Not that I always agree with their pricing, but that's neither here nor there.)
(And now my obligatory "I don't work for Cryptic" part of my post, since you seem to think this is "my company.")
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We'll always think they overprice stuff. And they'll always think that gamers are just cheap bastards. It's the circle of gaming life.
Given limited resources, the hideout rooms aren't a priority for me either. I'd prefer that an environmental artist work on creating SG bases, provided they also had a plan to work on stuff for SGs to do. If done well, SG bases would attract people back to the game (which I don't think can be said about expanded hideouts) and a base construction system might serve as a baby step to a primitive version of the Foundry.
what is actually feedback if just a max of 30 of all the people that play just have something to say?
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Yes, I do apologize Biff, an old keyboard and stress do not mix well, and I am going thought a stage of "Out For Blood", lately so that might explain it, so yes my Paragraph, is a piece of poop. However back onto topic at hand.
You are correct they do need to make some-sort of Profit, however that does not give them the excuse to Ignore their Fan-base, everyone in the PTS strictly asked for it not to be over 100 Zen, they had plenty of time to do it, while it was sitting on the PTS, and what did they do?, They didn't respond to any comments on the PTS notes, and they put it onto the Live OVER the price that the Fan-base wanted. So that bacily proves that they didn't' care and Ignored our feedback, like always.
Sure, I can agree that they are doing some-what of a good job, with all the Bug Fix's, and Im sure we're all grateful of that, and want more Fins, over new "Content", and with the VO fix I am quite happy that I can go and start building my builds, without that holding me back.
However, they are still countless more out there, and some they just turn around and say: its Intended, get used to it. Not really acceptable is it?
Now about the Hideouts, while I may be putting too much care into it, and letting it drive me, other people DO care about it, However why are they bothering with content like Onslaught, that is clearly still buggy and has overpriced items, bugs and exploits all over. And now your telling me they want to give us "More" content, without fixing the ones they didn;t bother fixing?.
Also, countless people want it, they understand that it was lazy of the Devs, to leave an unfinished project inside the game, its what the Fan-Base want, are they caring or going into QOL or the suggestion box's saying that, we're going to do this and that?. Nope!.
So, whats the point of the QOL topic in the first place, if they ignore and even get Mods, to remove some Feedback, that players want inside the QOL. Thats what QOL is about repairing the game and getting content that PLAYERS WANT, not what makes them more dosh, to play swim inside.
However, you are correct on your points, however QOL SHOULD be Top Priority!, not making cash-grabs and Profits, to just squeeze money out of their Fan-base. Just look at DE, I can bet you, if they controlled this game, they whuold do alot better in all respect.
"Hay looks guys, someone made a cool video", What about the FEEDBACK?
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First, you're assuming that they're "ignoring" their fan-base. It's absolutely within reason that they heard their fan-base but disagreed. They're the ones in charge, and they set the price. Or, their sales and marketing team do, regardless of how much feedback the playerbase gives. This doesn't mean the developers aren't paying attention or just don't care. This means that people who are more qualified to choose a price are doing so over a half a dozen people who won't like the price being higher than 100 Zen.
You're going to have to understand that "ignoring feedback" doesn't mean that they don't care. It often means someone knows better, or someone overrides what the developers want. Look at it this way, if you worked at a restaurant and a few of your friends came in wanting a hamburger, and they didn't wanna pay four bucks, would you go to your boss and demand that the burgers cost 2.50 because of a few customers' feedback? Do you think you and your friends' "feedback" is a better metric to judge prices than the people in sales and marketing who have been setting prices for years based on market trends and not just on hunches and guesses?
You may not agree on the price, but that doesn't mean people aren't listening. It just means someone else decided differently. If Cryptic bent to every customer's demands on prices, the game would have been shut down years ago because they'd hardly make any money because a small amount of people on the forums think things are overpriced.
You got an actual example of them saying a bug is "intended, get used to it" or is that just your summation of what's happened? Because so far, judging by your reactions to how the developers don't bend over backwards to your feedback, it seems like you might be painting a skewed picture about it.
I'm guessing new content and new things to do bring in more people than adding a few rooms to hideouts or fixing some content bugs (which in particular, if I may ask?).
Countless more people don't want hideout rooms and want new stuff to do instead. It's easy to make up statistics.
Hmm, did they have a guarantee on this topic that as soon as anything's posted, they'll have a short timeframe - or any timeframe at all - that those things would be addressed? Developers read and take notes on all these threads, whether they have the resources to take care of all these things or whether they should be working on them as opposed to other, more important things like content updates is a different thing altogether.
I understand that for you, quality-of-life updates are the biggest priority, but you do not speak for the entire playerbase. Cryptic has to act on what's best for the majority of the playerbase. I'm guessing that those rooms in the hideouts are not a big deal for most of the playerbase.
I can only speak for myself, but I spend less than 1% of my time in-game in any of my hideouts. I'm only there to access my account bank. I have three or four different hideouts, and they're all the same to me, it doesn't matter to me that I can put a giant laser on my moon base or change the lights in my loft, because I'm just there to look at my account bank. Consider that perhaps, more players use their hideouts like I do, and don't care about the extra rooms in the least. Maybe this is the kind of information that Cryptic has that makes them not make extra rooms in your hideout a top priority.
It's just a guess, but it's worth considering.
We don't need anyone ranting like a crazy person, here.
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The point is the rooms already exist they don't need to be made, just remvoe the doors for now and the junk in there i say, not even needing any option for those for now, just a room you can walk in. That s all those people want, but both sides are right. Hideouts not the top Priority but oyu also can't ignore it is some sort of "content" still. People will buy it and will wonder why they sell unfinished stuff you know, also not a good selling point for the game just saying.
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Yes, I understand that they are charge and its their game, all that trash, however that still does NOT give them the excuse to NOT hear out their Player-Base, I did not see a single post by any Dev, that we're hearing your feedback, and we'll look into the issue, they shown the token onto the PTS, let us play with it, then ignored all feedback and stuck it onto the Live, no qeastion, no reason, just on there, cuz they wanna work on something "better".
So yes, to me it does mean they ARE aren't paying attention or just don't care, sad to say and its going to be fact if they keep doing this. As for the "Restaurant" thing, then that's hard to explain, while I won't be really in control over the prices, I whuold try my best to keep every customer happy and take in their feedback, let them atlest KNOWN I took care and readed fully into their detailed feedback. While as we're all human and can't keep every happy, cuz that whuold be plan creepy, if I have to admit. However I will let each feedback kown, that they where readed and I'll try my best to implant their feedback within good reason.
I chuold care less, what my friends wanted, if I worked in a place, that they wanted to come into, as they are Friends, I whuold moreless just give them a discount or so, and even then I don't think they whuold be dumb enough, to go into their Friend's job like so, if they are only looking to get their friend in issues. As cold as that makes me sound.
Now I was not the ONLY person, and if alot more people, like the hole fan-base disagreed with it, then YES, it does mean people aren't listening, in all due respect. Go look at Warframe, their Devs, they take almost every Feedback and give us well detailed reasons why this and that can't be done, and if there is a really big issue, like for example: When the head of this warframe looks so bad, DE changed it. (If anyone plays Warframe, they should kown this).
As for the feedback, of "Intended", Im unsure, I am sure I've seen it somewhere, but I chuold be mistaken, eyes tend to read something what they want to read and not what is on there, its a human thing. However I am pretty sure its been done by almost every Dev in all games, so yes I will admit, that was a bit harsh of me. On the " guarantee" thing, I am unsure what you mean by that excaly, sorry but I think my point above might drive into that, I am unsure.
Last but not least, "quality-of-life updates on me", Yes that is right I don't, and I don;t intend to make it that way, I kown that the majority of the player-base, want the price lowered, or maybe half want the hideout rooms, or the majority of the player-base want bug fix's etc. I'm unsure if Im just blind by such rage and disappointment that I don;t see it, but I can;t see anywhere, where they have taken care in the majority of the player-base's Feedback, Like the Price tag.
Now to top it all off, thank you Biff, you have opened my eyes on a few things, but if we can address this together, like we are now, I might be able to finality get this issue of my chest, very few people are capable of doing that, and that's even more to say face to face. So thank you so much for your time here, and I do apologize to you, if this has caused any inconvenience to you.
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Ansemthedark pretty much said what I said but in a shorter respond and in a less crazy person like Xraz said
- Id Blade Breach (rank 3 only) plays Medusa's voiceover.
@ladygadfly @crypticarkayneNote: Ego Blade Breach (with one blade) does not have this problem. The voiceover only applies when the second blade is added.
The majority of people who are actually going to whip out a credit card to buy these items are going to buy it at 200z no problem. If the item was half of what it is now, you might get an Arona or two who'd buy it, but you're only getting half from what the big spenders who actually buy the majority of these items. Secondly, if the item was half of its current price and the average person was buying this item and leveling up this way, everyone else who never could afford this item and never were going to get it, they're gonna feel even more shafted. "Everyone is buying power/levels/gear and I'm here having to actually put in a bunch of time to get stronger." Not cool.
Let the big spenders buy their item, and let the odd customer who only pays once in a while pull out their card if they really want this item, but F2P games will rarely ever have items with low prices aimed for mass purchasing. There is a reason their customer base is playing a F2P game - they don't want to spend money at all. 200z is a perfect balance of pricing - the average customer has it in reach, but it isn't so cheap everyone is gonna buy 10 of them to skip levels 30-40, pointing and laughing at everyone else who had to do it the old fashioned way. And the whales can keep paying cash to keep the game's hamster wheel spinning.
and both actually encourage people to play less of the actual content in the game if you think about it...
(One by allowing you to skip content and the other by giving you more space to stand around in your hideout...doing whatever it is you're doing in there.)
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Bug: Psedo-Pets devices (like Nightmare Generator, Teleiosaurus Pheromones e.t.c), Sidekicks and Back-Ups can still be used as Onslaught Villain (or be trigger before turning into one), please get rid of those damn Dinos, those things have already ruined the game
Bug: Genetic Exhaustion penalty Debuff STILL DOESN'T EXIST, people can exploit dragging out the Device from the tray, denying Guardian Tokens, and then go buy and equip another one
No they're not ruining anything..not even when OVs use them. If they're bothering you hit them with a maintained aoe for a few seconds, that'll get rid of them for awhile.
You can't make comments like that and expect anyone to take your objections seriously!
Yes, my opinion for the dinos is Subjective
but I'm NOT telling them to REMOVE them from game, i'm telling to make them unusable during the Onslaugh Villain Transformation like they should be
What for? they will respawn 5 seconds later and they will attack you!
And why should Onslaught Villains b ALLOWED to use them in the first place? they are extra damage that are not part of the OSV Transformation