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New superhero game in the making - A serious rival/threat to CO?
rokurocaris
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No, I'm not talking about Marvel Online. CO will not have to compete only with it and DCUO for much longer.
Here comes a new challenger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyvEkHoMb3M
It's not a traditional MMO, but an action game, sort of like DCUO.
It has a much darker atmosphere than CO; being set in a modern world where superpowers have only just begun to appear - and are causing a lot of chaos and unrest. The player can be a hero or a villain, depending on his actions.
Your thoughts on this?
P.S.
I'm not advertising for the competition. I'm showing what CO is up against in the not so far future.
Here comes a new challenger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyvEkHoMb3M
It's not a traditional MMO, but an action game, sort of like DCUO.
It has a much darker atmosphere than CO; being set in a modern world where superpowers have only just begun to appear - and are causing a lot of chaos and unrest. The player can be a hero or a villain, depending on his actions.
Your thoughts on this?
P.S.
I'm not advertising for the competition. I'm showing what CO is up against in the not so far future.
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Will it have a freeform powers system?
Subtract 50% from my care rating for each no above.
Champions Online: Be the hero you wish you could be in a better game.
"Without data, you're just another person with an opinion." -- W. Edwards Deming
Saw barely any superheroes.
I'll take a pass.
Looks like Secret World without bees flying into your mouth.
The reason I like Champs is because it feels like comic books. Mostly not today's comic books, which I dislike. Project Awakening does not look or feel anything like any comic books I've read or like.
This game will be no more of a threat to Champs than Secret World was. Sure some people will leave and go play it, but it's not going to entice anyone that plays Champs for the comic book feel. Super powers + Hero doesn't always equal "comic book superhero."
Nope, the only threat to Champs right now and in the near future is itself, sadly.
Further, from what I can see, it's nothing to do with superheroes - merely the fights between groups of superpowered gangsters, basically. (One of the big hints is that in the example gameplay shown, when they aren't slaughtering each other at close range in a subway station, the characters are shown attacking the police.) And I see no hints of a story mode, just PvP. Which is nice if PvP is what you're after, but it's hardly a CO-killer, any more than Diablo spelled the end of WoW.
I note further that in their enthusiastic depiction of their character creator, these gentlemen seem unfamiliar with Cryptic's work in that regard. Not terribly surprising, as they describe themselves as having been wrapped up in their labor of love for at least the past six years...
On a completely side note, it is nice that the initial cinematic was accompanied by the note that these are not finished graphics, else their draw distance would have me wondering why superpowers seem to render everyone nearsighted. Seriously, they can't focus on anything more than ten feet away?
All in all, it looks intriguing, but it's not competing for the same audience as CO. More of a supplemental thing, really.
(One more completely side note - can we quote this game's lead designer the next time someone complains that CO seems "unfinished"? According to him, the "extended live beta" nature of many online games is a good thing, and something he's striving for.)
- David Brin, "Those Eyes"
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At a glance it looks like it has yes on both.
Yes. But it looks like they're now taking contributions on their site with Founders packages.
You must not be old enough to remember Marvel's "New Universe." I think it only lasted for a few years, less than a decade. It was along this line, where the "supers" were new, just discovering their powers and other individuals like themselves.
Part of the problem since December, 2012.
Hey that's pretty heroic... depending on what part of LA you're from. :P
I can't help but shake the feeling that if you jumped in that game as your favorite tights-wearing superheroes, the majority of the playerbase would have the reaction of "Dude, seriously? You're gonna walk around wearing that?" I don't think a game that isn't specifically targeted at comic book enthusiasts is really gonna bring the right crowd for that.
Keep in mind that I said "comic books that I've read and liked."
I know that some comic books have taken a turn towards the realistic and "gritty". Those are the comic books I don't like.
I note though that the pitch looked like a high-concept technical demo and the quality of the graphic dropped down a couple of steps when they showed the mods players had created.
A game as good-looking as the initial demo would probably require that most people would need to go out and buy new laptop or desktops.
A completely free-form mash-up of superhuman and/or action hero characters would probably cause some emergent behavior to arrive as the community agree that most of the powers are bunk and settle on a using only a smaller, more effective subset of powers.
So the ideals might be there but the reality could be quite different if it is delivered.
This wouldn't be a game I'd consider crowdfunding from that pitch.
A Prootwaddle is one of the weirder player-character races in "The Fantasy Trip", Steve Jackson's first published role-playing game.
I think I fail to see how what appears to be, in essence, a mulitplayer-capable third person shooter competes with an actual MMO.
Oh, wait. Maybe it'll be the Neverwinter Nights of super-heroics.
Then again, maybe not.
It is on a kickstarter, and yes, the first attempt failed.
But it is definitely not a fangame. The devs are all professionals who have worked on similar games before.
That's an iteresting view on it.
It's not a pure shooter, btw, but it can be played as one.
But since you all watched the video....they said you will have to customize the game through mods the users make....they then proceeded to show what others did using unreal engine 3 stuff.
If you go to the website you see its a single player game...
Soooo.....basically its going to be a modern day skyrim like game.
Will be neat for a while...but its not going to be multiplayer.
What makes this game champions online reloaded fun....is that you can team up with other people to do things.....lately there hasn't been enough things to require more people....and what there is...no one wants to team up to do.
I truly had wished that at some point there would be a thing like the meda D robot but stronger......requiring more then a few players.....something anyone could join to help fight.
Something that one day, came to destroy this world....something that would unite the players to a common goal to team up for that single instance and prove they are the champions that the game world calls them.
yah there are events but they are few and far between.
And if they happen too much....then no one wants to do them over and over.
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They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
There's still The Phoenix Project and Heroes & Villains, which are in the works.
Oh I mean in the finished product. Videos like these are notoriously misleading. I'm sure at some point someone described DCUO's costume editor as the greatest thing since JC Penny's too, just like I've seen things where people said "we want to give the players choices" where those choices ended up being a lot more limited than was initially advertised.
From what I saw in the videos, the costume editor is going to have a lot of rather bland options...and as for the powers, looked to me like a FPS with variously skinned bullets, with melee attacks.
Champions Online: Be the hero you wish you could be in a better game.
Heroes and Villains... I won't be touching that with a ten foot pole based solely on the disgusting person that's heading up that project.
Seriously, enlighten me- because I'm in the dark on this.
Not interested.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
In my opinion, that game has a different feel and look to be compared to these 3.
But still, I'll be giving that game a chance, so I got myself a founders package.
Here is another video for those interested in the powers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kn8xwa50O8&feature=youtu.be
Actual powers start at 00:55
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To me if it has a robust character creator, lets you actually be heroic instead of killing every cop and civilian around and there is some good story to it then I will give it a shot. I pray that they allow for heroes to save the people that the villains put in jeopardy. That would amaze me, frankly. It looks interesting so far and I need to look into it further. I think we all should as fans of the genre, but I am not allowed to say such heretical things around here, I fear.
What is with the super blurry near sighted insanity all the games are forcing on us these days. If I wanted to be blind I would take off my douche specs...
"Saying 'Everything is fine as is.' in the MMO world is like holding your breath. Eventually you die from lack of common sense."
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Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
Firstly fixed that for you. Ok heres the info you seek.
Heroes and Villians is a pipe dream thought up by the biggest troll ever to grace City Of Heroes..Golden Girl. If a player didnt make toons that were heroic she would go out of her way to troll them. Thats some hero sh$t right there.
A lot of ex CoX players like myself will give this a miss ( thats saying if it ever gets made and thats very very doubtful :P ) just because it has her mitts all over it.
I find it odd that she has the term villains in her game saying she spent most of her time raging about people that played as villains.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
As Nepht said, it has to do with CoH's old resident hag of a troll, Golden Girl.
Basically this game (PA) seems like it's aimed at people who watched WAYYYY too much "Heroes".
"Champions-Online and Star Trek Online contained hundreds of hours of mediocre content!"
and "nothing was polished".
--Jack Emmert
Read the way she comes off in this interview: http://beefjack.com/features/rising-from-city-of-heroes-ashes/
She's very much a "My way is the right way, everything else is stupid," person. Hardly the type of person I'd want to be producing a game. Check the part where they ask the head of both teams why the project was divided. Ugh, the worst kind of person in my book.
And that's fine... but it won't be tugging at me to go play it.
Now, if Pixar decided to make Incredibles Online... :P
Well, my thought is that it is the lobby shoot-up scene from the first Matrix movie.
Its pitch is for players to get to feel some creepy power kick while killing a bunch of police.
He ends it with "show the world who you want to be". So I think it is to appeal to the angry-at-society types. Kind of an FPS vibe.
I hope that doesn't appeal anymore. After all, Matrix came out 14 years ago. But I guess there will always be some of that adolescent rage as each generation hits puberty.
So I really don't like it. Maybe I'm just taking it too negative though, and dating myself at the same time!
Oh, she's just horrible. She has no moral scruples or etiquette at all. She's just a black-hearted little human being.
Project Awakened is an evolution of Heroes and Villains?
This person in the smackwell's link talking about the other guys "lack of vision" and her intent to make a "true spiritual successor to COH" then goes and makes a console style single player action game?
PVP is starving without rewards
1. Please give us Daily PVP missions that reward Questionite.
2. Please give us an exchange rate between Acclaim and Recognition so that PVP has access to all "On Alert" PVE rewards.
Part of the problem since December, 2012.
No, neither of those games has anything to do with Project Awakening.
it failed becaue they set the goal too high, they lowered it significantly to get it made. if the people who pledged before would pledge the same amount now we would not only get the game proper but online ANd modding support, like the Bethesda games that i buy exclusively on pc for. as for single player game, it will have an online component as well, it just not going to be yanked from your hands when a ncsoft exec gets a bug up his butt.
and as per this being fan made, this game was being worked on by phosphor games(makers of some well regarded ipad game called horn) for midway before they collapsed, they felt strongly about the project and kept working on it in their free time, this is a chance to get it made properly.
as for this gaem being a threat to co? cryptic is a threat to co, this game is an enjoyable alternative for those of us who want to play alone or in small lobbies with only our friends and not a bunch of 15 year olds shouting in zone chat.
I said resident. The other two didn't show up until the NCSoft closure announcement.
but thats neither here nor there, the point of this thread SHOULD be, hey, people who enjoy superheroes and being able to play your games after you buy them, this game is neeto
Huh... I remembered neither of them existing before the bridge-dropping.
That being said, I doubt this could be considered direct competition to CO, considering that it isn't a MMO in the first place.
Ohhh no don't say that, it'll bring up the "Secret World is a Superhero game because the characters have powers" thing again!
Honestly the second thing I did think of when watching that was InFamous.
It's just like TSW, which fits urban fantasy/world conspiracy niche. Except PA offers science based origin of powers.
It also offers the same origin for every superpowered individual.
Probably it could be modded into the game about superheroes, but it is not the primary target of the game.
Just like the TES games - only because they can be modded into basically everything it doesn't meant that TES games are not sword&sorcery games.
those are not super heros, they are super- psychos.
This will appeal to all the gankers, spawn campers and open world PVPs who like nothing better than to attack anyone available.
preferably while the person is busy.
Now all they have to do is persuade their parents to support it. :biggrin:
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It won't appeal to those gamers, since the game is was planned as single-player. The developers, on their blog, said that they would eventually have some sort of UGC, and perhaps game hosting, but there were no specific plans for online, multiplayer play.
I was going to become a supporter for their kickstarter, but once I read all the details, and found out it wasn't going to be an MMO, I put my credit card away. There are lots of awesome single-player games out there. I'm not interested.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
I just read that interview and, dear lord, what an awful attitude.
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
Still, there is one bright hope for the future with The Phoenix Project.
The good news is you could get an Incredibles Online.
The bad news is it'll guest star Wolverine.
I'll say it again;
IT'S A SINGLEPLAYER GAME AND, AS SUCH,
CANNOT BE CO'S COMPETITION.
Okay. That should do it.
:rolleyes:
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