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  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    jasinblaze wrote: »
    btw saying translation like that is both condescending and insulting.

    I'm well aware of that. Telling people what to post with their own freedom is both condescending and insulting so I replied to you in kind.
    ashensnow wrote: »
    You are right, we haven't seen it.

    I see what you did there.
    johhota wrote: »
    I'm very certain that Kenpo isn't asking for new content.

    Pretty much. I've very very rarely asked for new content. I'm old school. I don't have the give me more mentality, I bought the game as is. I'd like some fixes but I'm not expecting or asking for anything. After over 3,000 hours and an LTS that's paid for itself already I've got my moneys worth so I have no right to really ask for anything...except for maybe some reason to spend more money on the game as that is currently lacking for me.
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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,621 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Well, the base game engine is so old and so crippled with bugs that a Champs 2 doesn't sound such a bad idea.

    If they do give us a Champions 2 Online, I want them to let us transfer our characters to that as Champions 1 Online would inevitable be shut down in favor of that.
  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    If they do give us a Champions 2 Online, I want them to let us transfer our characters to that as Champions 1 Online would inevitable be shut down in favor of that.

    I would, but I wouldn't.

    I'd want to, because of the character investment. I wouldn't, because it means that on some level some of the limitations of CO1 would have to carry over to CO2 to enable such a feature. I think I'd rather see a clean slate more than a character transfer.
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  • gamehobogamehobo Posts: 1,970 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The engine is versatile enough for them to fix Champions 1 before creating a Champions 2.

    Just takes developers to do the work.. besides.. champions 2 would have to be something amazing for me to not see it as a step backwards.
  • visionstorm01visionstorm01 Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    At this point I would honestly prefer a CO2 that addresses a lot of the longstanding issues we have on this game and make general improvements, such as reducing costume restrictions (including better facial options and sliders*, and adding more hips options for beast-legged toons), flesh out hideouts, expand on the nemesis system, include vehicles and appropriate content since the begining rather than add them as a tack-on feature three years in, and make power selection more streamlined and balanced.

    But at the same time, I doubt that it would happen, ever. Just looking at the treatmen CO1 has recieved from Cryptic/PW as well as the reception the game has recieved from the MMO community at large (not just those of us that whine on the forums, but also all those people that have played it and left never to return or ignore it completely, etc.), I doubt that CO is considered successful enough to even consider investing on a part 2. And I'm not sure I'd throw my money again at Cryptic if it did. I'm not sure I like the way that Cryptic manages their games so far and investing on CO2 after I've seen how they've treated CO1 would be tantamount to pure masochism.

    *yes, CO has some pretty extensive customization options overal, but lots of games have better facial options and sliders in particular, including Tera, GW2 and even STO (though, Tera's and GW2's facial sliders are better than STO's).
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  • smoochansmoochan Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    gamehobo wrote: »
    The engine is versatile enough for them to fix Champions 1 before creating a Champions 2.

    Just takes developers to do the work.. besides.. champions 2 would have to be something amazing for me to not see it as a step backwards.

    When I think of Champions 2.... it makes me think about "Gunz 2".

    Champions Online: Be the hero you wish you could be in a better game.
  • itsbrou#5396 itsbrou Posts: 1,778 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    There is no need to upgrade this version of the Cryptic Engine; not when systems can be added to it. Most times a new engine comes out, it is because of limitations and poor design of the former, and that does not apply so much here. Unlike the CoH engine, mistakes were learned from it and applied.
    Brou in Cryptic games.
  • holloweaverholloweaver Posts: 582 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    gamehobo wrote: »
    The engine is versatile enough for them to fix Champions 1 before creating a Champions 2.

    Just takes developers to do the work.. besides.. champions 2 would have to be something amazing for me to not see it as a step backwards.

    which can also lead to another valid argument : Champs 2 would be the new "awesome project" from Cryptic and you can bet safely there would be enough devs to work on it.
  • bwdaresbwdares Posts: 1,517 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    you know I would not mind if Content took a back seat to bug fixes and costume creator fixes. but if they were going to raise the Level cap as someone through that out, It would be a horrible idea to do so without a new zone. In either the Until report or an interview it was stated that they would like to do that with the Star Gaurdians (is that name right?I cant really rememeber) which would be aewsome.

    CO2 isnt needed, a larger crew here is. Fix the bugs and we'd be moving back in a great direction.
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  • bwdaresbwdares Posts: 1,517 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    which can also lead to another valid argument : Champs 2 would be the new "awesome project" from Cryptic and you can bet safely there would be enough devs to work on it.

    Champs 2 would be awesome only if it was an add-on for the current CO. Liek it is a major up-date that fixed ALOT of things. Hell i would pay money for it (again if it was going to go to CO's funds)

    If it was a new game altogether? I wouldn't touch it. Because I have Lifetime here, but I wouldn't pay it again and I hate the silver package. So I would just take my ball and go home.
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  • eastgatewidoweastgatewidow Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm back as of last night after approximately 8 months or so away, and since I was last in-game.
    I haven't rushed into posting and have both perused the forums and popped into the in-game channels to ask the opinion of many Forumites and in-game Champions on-duty before posting.

    In a nutshell, utter disappointment.
    Before I left Telepathy changes were not yet live, there was talk from Cryptic and details shown of a horror-inspired London-zone and aura-slots were also promised.
    I've returned to see the zone apparently canned and the rest nowhere to be seen.
    I can see the effort that has been made with vehicles which is to be applauded, but this is not something that will have the title grow and develop in the long-term.
    This year, the same-old holiday mission (even with updated rewards) and a re-hash of transformation-powers for the Q-store (that were made years ago) for an Xmas event is not what I expected from a studio the supposed quality and size of Cryptic Studios.

    This is just not good enough.
    Cryptic are now running on a finite and vastly dwindling amount of patience with my custom as I am just not seeing any re-investment in the title whatsoever.
    Thats really surprising considering the fortune they have had in the market with the closure of CoH and the influx of some of it's players.
    I haven't played properly and last felt invested in the title in a hardcore passionate way, in way over a year.

    Trailturtle?.... Brad?..... I really am sitting here scratching my head in puzzlement wondering about Cryptic's apparent lack of focus on, and resources available for, the title. What on earth is going on with development?.

    State of the Game please! - I am very eager to see just what has survived and moved up the different design and developmental sections of the SOTG. Communication please ASAP!.
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  • bwdaresbwdares Posts: 1,517 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Welcome back Mother's Love...err I mean eastgatewidow :D

    It is sad, the saddest part is the Dev's choice to ignore the community once again. But oh well. Time to sit and wait. I look forward tot he winter event as it should be a okay distraction.

    I am just waiting for them to announce winter lockboxes and then I will say screw it.

    To be fair while it was on Test i didnt see any so maybe that is our Christmas Gift from PWE?
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  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm not sure who all out there has been around since launch, but it seemed like there was a period before F2P was announced where they just stopped for a year. There were no posts, no updates, nothing added to the game, just nothing for months. It kind of seems like we're hitting something like that again and frankly if the game went F2P the last time we had the huge silence, what would be happening this time?

    I worry that they might just shut it down. there are a lot of problems, and it seems like any time they want to do something it just causes more bugs and such. With all that and the general attitude of the forums, it wouldn't really seem unrealistic for the company to just pull the plug and put the CO team on Neverwinter. I'd rather that didn't happen, but with the state of the game and all would it really be for the best?
  • bwdaresbwdares Posts: 1,517 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm not sure who all out there has been around since launch, but it seemed like there was a period before F2P was announced where they just stopped for a year. There were no posts, no updates, nothing added to the game, just nothing for months. It kind of seems like we're hitting something like that again and frankly if the game went F2P the last time we had the huge silence, what would be happening this time?

    I worry that they might just shut it down. there are a lot of problems, and it seems like any time they want to do something it just causes more bugs and such. With all that and the general attitude of the forums, it wouldn't really seem unrealistic for the company to just pull the plug and put the CO team on Neverwinter. I'd rather that didn't happen, but with the state of the game and all would it really be for the best?

    The thing is, it is not liek the negatism comes from people who hate the game. Like me, many have stated they are pissed because nothing is being done to a game they/we love. The Dev silence pisses people off, they know that and no agreement can stop them from saying we are working on something.

    If the rumors of their skeleton crew are true then it is most likely taking all they have to bring us the event that launches on Friday.

    and Yes there was alot of Cryptic silence last year around this time, but we did get some Dev posts on user created threads, it was "Were are working on something" which did not make everyone happy, but it was something.

    Hopefully the part 2 of Vehicles will bring that area they talked about for Vehicles...unless that was the alert...

    Though it pisses me to, we will just have to wait till they deem us worthy of a response. (Again I dont count TT in my anger because he is not a Dev)
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  • gamehobogamehobo Posts: 1,970 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    We, the client, have demanded that communication be apart of cryptic's ongoing relations numerous times.

    They have refused to honer that social contract.. and we have only one option to walk away. The prospect of leaving the game, while saddening, is the only option they have left us by remaining silent.
  • towershield#4714 towershield Posts: 1,208 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    gamehobo wrote: »
    We, the client, have demanded that communication be apart of cryptic's ongoing relations numerous times.

    They have refused to honer that social contract.. and we have only one option to walk away. The prospect of leaving the game, while saddening, is the only option they have left us by remaining silent.

    Or the lot of us could stop being overly dramatic like we always are and just wait some more.

    I'd like more dev input as much as the next guy but people around here act like radio silence is something new and exciting to complain about.
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  • bwdaresbwdares Posts: 1,517 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Or the lot of us could stop being overly dramatic like we always are and just wait some more.

    I'd like more dev input as much as the next guy but people around here act like radio silence is something new and exciting to complain about.

    At least it is something to talk about :biggrin:

    I will openingly admit to being one of the overly dramatic ones, but I have lost my energy to be so.

    So I will sit back and wait.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    gamehobo wrote: »
    We, the client, have demanded that communication be apart of cryptic's ongoing relations numerous times.
    And this demand has been met. Communication is, in fact, far apart from Cryptic's ongoing relations.

    :wink:
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  • visionstorm01visionstorm01 Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    And that communication is about as ample as this game's content development.
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  • holloweaverholloweaver Posts: 582 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'm not sure who all out there has been around since launch, but it seemed like there was a period before F2P was announced where they just stopped for a year. There were no posts, no updates, nothing added to the game, just nothing for months. It kind of seems like we're hitting something like that again and frankly if the game went F2P the last time we had the huge silence, what would be happening this time?

    Before the On Alert patch, we had a calendar where we could see the upcoming features and talk about in the forums... passionate talks, of course :rolleyes: but we could speak about future, we could put hope on things.
    After the On Alert patch, we've been thrown into darkness : no more calendar, no more UNTIL field reports... we only speak about past features, we hold our hope on nothing.

    Some devs tried to communicate for a moment during and after the On Alert patch but they knew no answers to our questions and their words could only sound like repeated commercial ads (something like : "hold on guys, we're working on new awesome exciting stuff"...), therefore they hadn't been really welcomed here.
    I worry that they might just shut it down. there are a lot of problems, and it seems like any time they want to do something it just causes more bugs and such. With all that and the general attitude of the forums, it wouldn't really seem unrealistic for the company to just pull the plug and put the CO team on Neverwinter. I'd rather that didn't happen, but with the state of the game and all would it really be for the best?

    They already pulled the communication plug here, didn't they?
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Or the lot of us could stop being overly dramatic like we always are and just wait some more.

    I'd like more dev input as much as the next guy but people around here act like radio silence is something new and exciting to complain about.

    Gets my stamp of approval! *licks the screen* I don't have Caliga's funds so that will have to do.
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  • towershield#4714 towershield Posts: 1,208 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    nepht wrote: »
    Gets my stamp of approval! *licks the screen* I don't have Caliga's funds so that will have to do.

    Days without spitting soda on the monitor: Reset to zero.

    Goodbye, record.
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  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I don't care at this point. Cryptic can keep being lazy. I just got a stage 1 Screamin' Eagle kit for my bike and a mini-fairing, and I'm about to order a Thunderhead.

    See what happens, Cryptic? All this could have been yours.
  • fudgemonstafudgemonsta Posts: 1,591 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I don't care at this point. Cryptic can keep being lazy. I just got a stage 1 Screamin' Eagle kit for my bike and a mini-fairing, and I'm about to order a Thunderhead.

    See what happens, Cryptic? All this could have been yours.

    But they have all the bikes they would want!

    ...They are just locked in boxes and aren't released yet... :tongue:
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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Dev silence is normal for Perfect World games even their western ones hell have a look at Blacklights forum and that game is one of PW's more popular ones.

    We have to get out of its a Cryptic game mindset. Cryptic are a PW studio they do things differently now.
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  • serendipitynowserendipitynow Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Or the lot of us could stop being overly dramatic like we always are and just wait some more.

    Wait, we HAVE been waiting, it hasnt worked!

    NO new zones or expansion in 3 YEARS
    NO actual new things to do outside of temp events and recycled 2 min zerg fests in over 1 YEAR (since whiteout)

    See that word in capitals? its YEARS!
  • jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    NO new zones or expansion in 3 YEARS

    Vibora Bay doesn't count? Adventure Packs? Comic series?

    Not trying to say that we've gotten heaps of content expansions over the course of 3 years, but saying that we've gotten no new zones or expansions (no matter how small) in 3 years is rather untrue.
  • serendipitynowserendipitynow Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Vibora Bay doesn't count? Adventure Packs? Comic series?

    Not trying to say that we've gotten heaps of content expansions over the course of 3 years, but saying that we've gotten no new zones or expansions (no matter how small) in 3 years is rather untrue.

    Vibora bay counts, and ok not quite 3 years, but 33 months isnt much better is it? (vibora bay was released march 2010)

    I lumped it with expansions (none at all since launch which was almost 3.5 years ago) to save repeating myself

    Adventure packs and comic series count but arent zones. I mentioned the last one (whiteout) which was the last actual new addition of things to do, which was a YEAR ago.

    I didnt say no new things to do at all in 3 years, i said no new expansions/zones in 3 YEARS
    an no new things to do at all except 2 min zergs and temporary events in 1 YEAR (the time since the last actual new thing to do which was whiteout, the last comic series)

    Niether of those is untrue.
  • tacofoodsololtacofoodsolol Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Actually they released a paid standalone xpac called "Star Trek Online", and in 2013 we should get a free -though heavily cashshop reliant- new one called "Neverwinter Online".
  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    THIS game is what's being talked about. What you're mentioning is just where everyone's CO money and devs went!
    'Dec out

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  • visionstorm01visionstorm01 Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Actually they released a paid standalone xpac called "Star Trek Online", and in 2013 we should get a free -though heavily cashshop reliant- new one called "Neverwinter Online".

    And everytime we kill a kobold or something on that last one we'll get a locked treasure chest drop whose key we have to buy from the store to gamble away at the chance to MAYBE get a +5 vorpal sword, or if we're really, really lucky, access to a new class or race :rolleyes:
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  • holloweaverholloweaver Posts: 582 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    And everytime we kill a kobold or something on that last one we'll get a locked treasure chest drop whose key we have to buy from the store to gamble away at the chance to MAYBE get a +5 vorpal sword, or if we're really, really lucky, access to a new class or race :rolleyes:

    How do you already know it? :wink:
  • mijjesticmijjestic Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Maybe devs were shunted over to NWO temporarily to finish it up, but hush hush like. Silence might be better than fuming, foam-mouthed nerd rage in that case. :wink:

    If they were working on something for CO, you would think they'd be leaking a bit of info to us on it to assuage the doom and gloom.

    Really hoping for some major stuff in the first quarter next year. Its vaguely possible I'll 'wait' via sitting on my next gamecard until then, considering I haven't been able to play lately anyway. But we'll see.
  • jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I didnt say no new things to do at all in 3 years, i said no new expansions/zones in 3 YEARS
    an no new things to do at all except 2 min zergs and temporary events in 1 YEAR (the time since the last actual new thing to do which was whiteout, the last comic series)

    Niether of those is untrue.

    Saying that there have been no new expansions/zones in 3 years (which is the current life of CO) is untrue, no matter how much you try to spin it.

    I'm not exactly happy with the general situation with the game and agree that more needs to be done, but there's no need to blow things up just to sound more convicing.
  • serendipitynowserendipitynow Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Saying that there have been no new expansions/zones in 3 years (which is the current life of CO) is untrue, no matter how much you try to spin it.

    I'm not exactly happy with the general situation with the game and agree that more needs to be done, but there's no need to blow things up just to sound more convicing.

    Umm no its not untrue.

    Name an expansion added AT ALL

    or a zone added since vibora bay (which i pointed out was 33 months ago and i rounded to save repeating myself - it will still be the only zone in 3 years soon)
  • datadaem0ndatadaem0n Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    i am going to be negative here, it hurts me to be so because i love CO now that the game I'd leave it for is gone......i was out for a walk earlier today and suddenly realized something a little sad. What if the hover tanks and lock boxes are a last desperate money grab before they announce a shut down. i have not seen a new costume pack since night hawk and we have not received a State of the game, and ask cryptic or an UNTIL Report (are SOtGs the same as UNTILS ?) since July.

    where am i going to go to get my super hero fix if devs don't return here from Neverwinter ?
  • therealdreadicustherealdreadicus Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    datadaem0n wrote: »
    i am going to be negative here, it hurts me to be so because i love CO now that the game I'd leave it for is gone......i was out for a walk earlier today and suddenly realized something a little sad. What if the hover tanks and lock boxes are a last desperate money grab before they announce a shut down. i have not seen a new costume pack since night hawk and we have not received a State of the game, and ask cryptic or an UNTIL Report (are SOtGs the same as UNTILS ?) since July.

    where am i going to go to get my super hero fix if devs don't return here from Neverwinter ?

    Well.. I was re-downloading CO to come back for a month if nothing else but to revisit all my creations, fly around, and all that jazz, but this post is pretty darn disheartening.. CO really has a good feel and gameplay, the best toon creator ever - and really mixes a 'lot' of good elements into one game..

    All it needs - is a good company to own it for once..

    I will still let it download, but may not go gold again.. May just 'look' at them all from the selection window and call it an evening.. Shoot.
  • neuraldamageneuraldamage Posts: 590 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Well.. I was re-downloading CO to come back for a month if nothing else but to revisit all my creations, fly around, and all that jazz, but this post is pretty darn disheartening.. CO really has a good feel and gameplay, the best toon creator ever - and really mixes a 'lot' of good elements into one game..

    All it needs - is a good company to own it for once..

    I will still let it download, but may not go gold again.. May just 'look' at them all from the selection window and call it an evening.. Shoot.

    Shutdown is not imminent, they've got a fresh crop of CoX refu... ahem, survivors to milk.

    Might as well roll up a silver toon, cause: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf16YtSOaUQ

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  • serendipitynowserendipitynow Posts: 554 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Its not bad enough they have hardly anyone working on CO
    They have them working on crap rather than what they NEED to be working on.

    Heck even things that take no dev time like when to turn on the winter event they cant get right! I mean come on turning it on for just the christmas week when most people are too busy to take part, rather than a week before so people can relax and enjoy it...

    Cryptic - where incompetence knows no bounds!
  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Posts: 531 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    With how bad CO is right now and how STO is nothing but a grind to grind for a grind i really sorry about how Neverwinter will end up. When was the last time CO even had an ask cryptic? I tried searching for it but i can't search the word ask.... that in it''s self is kind of sad. To be honest it really does feel like the Team has just given up on this game. I know it's not true, they're busy doing what they're doing, but at the same time the feel of the game itself is just 'meh'. New Content coming? meh New costume setsheading our way? meh Awesome new power sets coming down the pipeline? meh

    It's not like there aren't threads dedicated to people telling cryptic how to take our money, or telling them what we want, or even how to make the things they DO put out better, but it's all just in one ear and out the other and the general feeling that gives from the dev side of things is just "meh"


    I really hate to say this but it's like watching grandma on life support at the hospital. You really want to see her get better but you know she's just getting worse and the doctor's only trying to get you to pay for quick fixes and pills that won't really help whats wrong with her.


    Imma go lay down and be sad for a little bit now....
  • bwdaresbwdares Posts: 1,517 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    With how bad CO is right now and how STO is nothing but a grind to grind for a grind i really sorry about how Neverwinter will end up. When was the last time CO even had an ask cryptic? I tried searching for it but i can't search the word ask.... that in it''s self is kind of sad. To be honest it really does feel like the Team has just given up on this game. I know it's not true, they're busy doing what they're doing, but at the same time the feel of the game itself is just 'meh'. New Content coming? meh New costume setsheading our way? meh Awesome new power sets coming down the pipeline? meh

    It's not like there aren't threads dedicated to people telling cryptic how to take our money, or telling them what we want, or even how to make the things they DO put out better, but it's all just in one ear and out the other and the general feeling that gives from the dev side of things is just "meh"


    I really hate to say this but it's like watching grandma on life support at the hospital. You really want to see her get better but you know she's just getting worse and the doctor's only trying to get you to pay for quick fixes and pills that won't really help whats wrong with her.


    Imma go lay down and be sad for a little bit now....

    and its silly how there is such an easy way to fix many of these feelings people are having but it is not being done whats-so-ever.
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