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Veteran Rewards for Silverusers!
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(( read carefully... i dont want silverusers who have never paid a penny to earn rewards.. this post is about silvers who have paid more than a common monthly gold member ))
Well do we silvers who buy ZEN with reallife money get rewarded any time?
For example: Over the last 3 Months ive spent like almost 100 Euro ( 94.50 ?uro / 123,06 $Dollar ).
Sure now people will tell me "hey why not bought GOLD?"...But thats my problem due to private issues i am not ba able to have VISA or PayPal accounts ( or similar ).
That said my only available payment method is PaysafeCard , an anonymous way to purchase ZEN through the PWE site.
transaction information: click here.
Mentioned things above.. i would be soon a 100 Day Paying user... who has paid more than a common Monthly Gold Subscriber...
Im pretty sure im not the only one and thats why i ask if we Silver users who pay our money (( if its more than that what a monthly gold member pays)) to you will get rewared too?!
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Veteran Rewards:
Active subscribtion is GOLD member
You have seen my transactions and it stil says 0 day subscribed.. means i have paid more than a common gold memer you pays monthly but i dont get rewarded..
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/1139/unbenannt1klc.jpg
(( im not talkign about the event rewards...))
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OR we just make TOTALLY-FREE users to bronze status...
Silver users are users who pay money, give them some reward depending on amount
gold user s are unchanged..
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Well do we silvers who buy ZEN with reallife money get rewarded any time?
For example: Over the last 3 Months ive spent like almost 100 Euro ( 94.50 ?uro / 123,06 $Dollar ).
Sure now people will tell me "hey why not bought GOLD?"...But thats my problem due to private issues i am not ba able to have VISA or PayPal accounts ( or similar ).
That said my only available payment method is PaysafeCard , an anonymous way to purchase ZEN through the PWE site.
transaction information: click here.
Mentioned things above.. i would be soon a 100 Day Paying user... who has paid more than a common Monthly Gold Subscriber...
Im pretty sure im not the only one and thats why i ask if we Silver users who pay our money (( if its more than that what a monthly gold member pays)) to you will get rewared too?!
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Veteran Rewards:
We know you have a lot of options when it comes to how you spend your time. That's why it means so much to us that you choose to spend it with Champions Online. To show our appreciation, we've put together these great Veteran Rewards for anyone who's been a Champions Online subscriber. Rewards are issued every 100 days of active subscription on your account.
To learn more about the Veteran Rewards program and eligibility requirements, check out the Veteran Rewards FAQ below.
Q: How are Veteran Rewards calculated?
A: Veteran Rewards are given out based on how long you've had an active subscription. This information is tallied and stored as part of the existing Perk system in-game. Your subscription must be active for the total required amount of days to complete the associated Veteran Reward Perk. This time is not dependent on consecutive days. For example, if you subscribed for 60 days and canceled your subscription, then reactivated your subscription two weeks later, the first day you are back will count as day 61.
Active subscribtion is GOLD member
You have seen my transactions and it stil says 0 day subscribed.. means i have paid more than a common gold memer you pays monthly but i dont get rewarded..
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/1139/unbenannt1klc.jpg
(( im not talkign about the event rewards...))
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OR we just make TOTALLY-FREE users to bronze status...
Silver users are users who pay money, give them some reward depending on amount
gold user s are unchanged..
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Everyone wins.
You can stop complaining now.
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Sockmonkey read carefuly... i mean the general veteran rewards...
Active subscribtion is GOLD member .. corerct me if i am wrong?!
look:
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/1139/unbenannt1klc.jpg
(( im not talkign about the event rewards...))
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Funny I'm a gold member, and I too pay a lot for CO. Last month I spent $100US. I think veteran awards are great. How bout this though: Make Vet rewards unbound, and only bound when one equips? Last Vet reward every character got one (a flight, and costume, etc). Either that or make it account-wide, not each character.
Example of Comet Flight: Here.
Hehe well i only asked if we silvers can get veteran rewards too.. because when u have paid like 123 dollars in 3 months as silver thats makes you similar worthy payer to the company as some gold member who pay only monthly subscribtion.
I asked a normal question here and you come to bully me here...
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But, it would also be nice to have an alternative and probably less impressive rewards system for spending silvers, maybe something like CoH's Reward Token system
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I'm a Gold myself but haven't been subscribed long enough for some of the rewards. Hell, I'd kill for some of the Avian costume unlocks but I don't begrudge anyone else who has received them simply because they've been subscribed longer - even if there's a chance I've spent more money than them.
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Players tend to burn through games, so keeping them long-term is tricky. Waving some carrots in front of them is good business to me.
Silver members are more fickle, and I can see marketing folks thinking that they will get less reliable results from silver rewards than gold.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
But to let them purchase them from Z-Store. Maybe.
After they have played the given time. Not before.
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I support the idea, because i like intelligent suggestions.
And playing by myself since Aug 2009
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It is just common sense.
Ok. First, about the contribution from golds and silvers, only Cryptic has the numbers and as far as I know they have not released them to the public. Anecdotes by themselves are not evidence by themselves unless you can gather in a quantity and quality that can be considered as a representative sample.
However, I support the idea of silvers having a path(based on the amount of expenditure) to reach vet rewards, easier or harder and by how much, is for Cryptic to decide. I believe in a environment that please any player who support the game no matter if player is silver or gold.
I am initially against the idea because it seems like a convoluted effort to get rewards. Then the system has to determine if the rewards are in total aggregate of overall spending or if is it a rolling time counter of expenditures.
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I guess that is abit better than thin air.
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jujitsu <- ? wth is that?
edit# Oh it is similiar to krate and kng fu maybe muy thai, a typo.
It's a Japanese martial art and a method of close combat for defeating an armed and armored opponent in which one uses no weapon or only a short weapon
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Heh not really. The martial art is called Jiu jitsu. Ju jitsu does not exist.
It's refreshing that instead of having facts and numbers in your statement, you go with a "sense." You don't see that too often on this rational, logical forum. :biggrin:
I keed, I keed.
Silver users are the base of the game now , since ALL games going to be free2play at some point.. why? because subscription only is no profit...
Imagine we silvers would stop paying because we dont get any thank you or reward for long time donation... the game would close sooner or later..
thats why i opened this topic, to give the idea to maybe reward the money paying silvers also...
we silvers who pay money are part of of the supporters of this game, our money also keeps teh game alive but we are threatened like outsiders or leechers... especially by some gold users...
GOLD
1 Month
14.99 USD and you get 500 zen back...
SILVER
1 Month
0 - ???? USD and no stipend.
(( from what i hear peopel pay 10 - 50 USD, if they pay. ))
My point is just that we silvers who pay money are also gettign a thanks , title , costume or similiar..
The word jujutsu is often spelled as jujitsu, ju-jitsu, jiu-jutsu or jiu-jitsu.
Heh, you're welcome
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Why do i need any numbers if i can see how many silvers are actually on everyday, the same goes for subs and the subbers are the minority, idk why they even talk as if the game would belong to them, since the silver players saved co., while the subbers just kept rping in that popo club. 30 subs do not run the game, not even 100 easy as that idk if the haters that are trying to make themselves seem bigger than they actually are realize that if there would not be the F2P model, this game would have been shut down last year.
Reward us.
cool story but he wrote jujitsu, not jiu-jitsu, not jujutsu (which is the jpn pronounciation)
I train BJJ which is jiu jitsu since the age of 6, i know how it is written and how it is not.
Oh the "Kenpo" is wrong aswell since it is called "Kempo" try telling me that americans say "ju jitsu and kenpo", like doofies please.
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Granted, 99% of the trolls I meet? Silver.
Read my reply again, jujitsu is a perfectly legitimate spelling for this martial art.
This article is all speculation (no wonder you like it), and it never mentions CO.
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And now lets just not talk about free silvers...lets talk about paying silvers...free silvers most of the time troll. in any game...they beg for money they beg for everything..i did not talk about those....
ive talked about us paying silvers...
also ive a new idea.. make totally free users to bronze users...
2) Please steer clear of flames. I know this is a subject people feel strongly about, but it's important that everyone's opinions are respected and respectful.
I do think that both time played and money spent should be factored in.
So a Silver would get veteran reward time credit for every month in which they have paid at least $15. Money spent above and beyond that $15 would not count any more than a subscriber's expenditures above their monthly sub fee do.
For example:
January: Silver spends $20 and accumulates 30 days of time for vet rewards.
February: Silver spends $10 and accumulates no time for vet rewards.
March: Silver spends $15 and accumulates 28 days of time for vet rewards.
In this fashion we ensure that a Silver gets as much in the way of rewards as if he spent the same amount of money he is spending on the game on a sub fee, without getting rewards for less or quicker than if he subbed.
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
And how exactly do you know what someones subscription status is? As a lifer, I can play any AT I want. So just because you see me playing one of the free AT's doesn't mean I'm a sliver player.
If you look at the forms here however, clearly us lifers are a fairly meaningful part of this game, based on the number of Vanguard titles you see.
Plus there is quite simply no way of knowing if a sliver player has spent a single dime on this game or not.
You don't even want to know how much money I hurled at this game as a Silver, lol...
Id like to remind you on my first topic where i have a transaction log...wich means there is a way of knowing how much a silver player paid...
I want to repost it for you:
http://imageshack.us/a/img837/5418/transactionspwe.jpg
And im pretty sure Cryptic / PWE can view this transaction logs at their computers..lol
He was referring to the ability of the poster he quoted to be able to tell whether or not a given silver player has spent money by looking at them in game.
Obviously Cryptic has such records for all players, and you will have such for yourself.
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
I'm sure you know and I'm sure cryptic knows. But there's no way we as players know. So this nonsense about how there's more money coming in from Sliver then Gold players is just that...
Nonsense
Unless Cryptic gives us the numbers, any statement about how much money is spent by Sliver players simply doesn't mean a thing. Plus that, past payment doesn't mean you will continue to spend money on this game.
This is especially true for the post I was responding to.
A system where you are rewarded vet time based on money spent, like was mentioned by Ashensnow could actually work. Plus if you wanted to, you could do the same for gold members. For every $15 worth of zen they spend, they get a extra 30 days of vet time.
Myself I got my lifetime subscription in beta, and already have every reward they are going to offer. So it doesn't matter to me a bit one way or the other.
Basically, players get rewarded for being PAYING customers instead of leeches. Absolute best customer loyalty scheme I've seen in an MMO to date.
This seems fair and I could certainly support this.
yeah that sounds really fair
This is what we need
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This also means that given the 1,000 day cap, you could have all the vet rewards for the low, low price of only $150...
Common sense is not a number.
@Lohr
It gets even better than that...
I'm a lifetime member, my LTS has already paid for itself, and I get all of the rewards, ALL the rewards. I haven't spent a dime on CO in probably 6 to 8 months, but I made the initial investment. I don't support silvers getting any sort of veterans rewards at all, but here's a question I would like to pose to you, if you've spent so much money over the last 3 months on this game, why don't you just go gold and save yourself a little? Then you get the vet rewards, and you spend less money. It doesn't take an economics wizard to figure out that's a good deal.
COMMON!?!?!?
Motherf.. nah, just kidding.
You've all lost your minds. Such hostility. Anyway, I think silvers should get something too. Maybe not vet rewards, but maybe a cash-back program, or maybe some of the vet rewards, or like a delay on the vet rewards. Gold - 100 day reward on the 100 day mark, silvers get a 30 day credit for every $10 they spend, and the 100 day reward on their 125th day. Or something. The token system sounds good too.
HAH!
That made me laugh.
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Incorrect sir!! There are several different completely valid spellings, of which, that is one, and is, in fact, one of the oldest ways of spelling it in Romaji (to my knowledge), as it was done before anyone cared about accuracy.
Also? Kenpo is also correct. Kenpō is the most correctest, but it really doesn't matter since it's a transliteration of something we don't normally pronounce anyway.
It's like arguing Paris is mispelled and should be Pahrie, or the name Joseph doesn't actually exist and saying "ooooooooooooh.... you mean 'Yusef,'" or, you know, the fact that there is no such country as "Japan."
He said why, he literally can't because of payment blocking stuffs.
SOLUTION!!!
He gives ME $300 and I buy it for him.
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Here's my reasoning: I created my account and subscribed the day the game come out. (Ok, maybe a day or two afterward but close enough to not make much difference.) The original launch not the FTP launch. Back then, we got no stipend. At all. None. By the time FTP rolled around several costume sets and even a travel power or two had been released only available through the C-Store. Which meant that if you had those, you had paid cash for them over and above your subscription fee. At the time of the FTP launch I had purchased all of the c-store costume packs except, I think, two. All that time I was a monthly subscriber (with the exception of three months when I let my sub lapse for financial reasons). Then when the LTS became available shortly before the FTP launch, I jumped on it. I could go through my bank statements and find all the transactions if I had the will to do so, which I do not, but by a quick estimation, I figure that I alone have shelled out more than enough money to purchase three lifetime subs. And there are many that have spent considerably more than I. Some have purchased multiple LTSs for family members, many purchased everything that came out in the C-Store before FTP and the stipend started, which I did not do.
The veteran rewards were put in place to reward those who have consistently supported this game, often well in excess of the meager cost of a monthly subscription. There is more than enough available to silvers for absolutely free and even more that is available for very reasonable prices (and some very unreasonable prices, yes, I'm looking at the catalysts when I say that).
Your pitiful cry does nothing to sway me for it is only the wind that I hear. You do not qualify for veteran rewards because you have not fulfilled the requirements for doing so, specifically, you have not been a subscriber for the required amount of days. Once that requirement is met, regardless of how much money you may have spent in excess of that, you will be awarded the veteran rewards, and not a moment before.
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If you want my money, there is a fairly simple way to get it since I am fairly free with how I spend it. First, produce something I consider to be worth buying. Second, offer it up for sale. Don't lock it behind a gambling scam. If I want something, I am perfectly happy to pay for it. But I will not purchase a CHANCE to get it, When I pay money, I have a perfectly logical right to expect to get what I want.
Everyone is naturally entitled to their own opinion on the matter, and I too felt like they shouldn't get any at first. If for no other reason then because given the constant demands by sliver players for more and more stuff, I have a knee-jerk reaction of saying No! to any request by Sliver players...
But in this case I'm of a different opinion, for one reason, and one reason only...
Does it really matter if someone has spent $100 dollars on monthly subs, or spend $100 on buying Zen, when in both cases Cryptic/PWE has received $100. Why should it matter where the money came from? Vet Rewards currently reward you based on the amount of money you've spent, not the amount of time you've played.
As a lifer I have the 1,000 day reward, but I have not played for 1,000 days. I've gone months where I've not logged into CO. So clearly I'm not being rewarded based on activity. So if someone drops $100 on Zen, and then quits playing a week later. Have they really contributed less to CO then someone who bought a lifetime sub and stopped playing a week after release?
YOU did not read my friend...
if silver users pay money.. they support the game.. why you deny them getting rewared?
You want to feel special? be soemone...but do not use a game benefit for compensation to something...
me and others just suggestiing to give rewards to peopel who support the game with money... now go smash your keyboard...
YOU are basicly saying.. no matter how much we will pay in the future.. we should go and fck off... thank you..
Finally, in every topic related thread I have said what you just said. I think this would be the solution for silvers, people who wants avian set really bad, etc.
If silvers(and golds) spend money on the Z-Store, they are indeed helping to support the game. More importantly they are getting whatever they paid for from the store. Is that not enough anymore?
Why do people feel they must be rewarded for spending money in the cash shop?
Additionally your post is entirely uncivil and countermands your "stop bullying me" plea.
How about "no"? Stop the wannabe wiki knowledge i know what i am saying. I practice MMA daily and jiu jitsu is a big part of the training.
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