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PTS Update (8/16): FC.20.20110812.2

Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
edited August 2011 in PTS - The Archive
FC.20.20110812.2 Patch Notes
ETA: 4:30 PM PST (GMT-7)

General Gameplay:
  • Traffic in Millennium City should no longer jam.

UI:
  • Client no longer crashes when accessing the Powers window.
  • The Terms of Service no longer pops up at every login attempt when you hit Accept.

Powers:
Fire
  • Heatwave: Updated the tooltip to state that it deals damage every second, not every 0.5 seconds. This is just a tooltip change.

Archery
  • Quarry: Fair Game: This power should no longer put a buff icon on you that does nothing.

Gadgeteering
  • Tractor Beam: Final Delivery: Now properly causes Knock Resistance.
  • Tractor Beam: Final Delivery: Now properly has an icon.

Munitions
  • Breakaway Shot: Microfilament Wire: Now properly causes Knock Resistance when it successfully Knocks a target toward you.
  • Breakaway Shot: Microfilament Wire: Now has the correct icon.

Power Armor
  • Chest Beam: The debuff applied by this power was incorrectly affecting the damage dealt in the same application as the debuff. The debuff will now correctly take place after the hit, instead of prior to it.

Martial Arts
  • Bountiful Chi Resurgence: Resurgent Reiki: Buff icon tooltip updated to match what this advantage does. This is just a tooltip change.
  • Fury of the Dragon: Was unintentionally alternating between damage types every tick, instead of dealing both damage types every tick. This has been corrected.

Telekinesis
  • Ego Weaponry: Siphoning Strikes: The heal from this power will no longer erroneously report Dodges.

Telepathy
  • Psychic Vortex: Single Minded: Stuns applied by this advantage should now work properly.
  • Psychic Vortex: Single Minded: Now properly has an icon.

Might
  • Shockwave: Now properly causes Knock Resistance when it successfully Knocks a target.
  • Beatdown: Blindside Blow: Now has the correct icon.

Celestial
  • Celestial Conduit: The chained heals from this power will no longer erroneously report Dodges.

Known Issues (Please write in red text when submitting bugs to this thread so issues are easier to find.):
  • Known issues will be posted here.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ironswan wrote:
    FC.20.20110812.2 Patch Notes
    ETA: 9:30 PM PST (GMT-7)

    General Gameplay:
    • Traffic in Millennium City should no longer jam.

    UI:
    • Client no longer crashes when accessing the Powers window.
    • The Terms of Service no longer pops up at every login attempt when you hit Accept.


    Power Armor
    • Chest Beam: The debuff applied by this power was incorrectly affecting the damage dealt in the same application as the debuff. The debuff will now correctly take place after the hit, instead of prior to it.


    Telepathy
    • Psychic Vortex: Single Minded: Stuns applied by this advantage should now work properly.
    • Psychic Vortex: Single Minded: Now properly has an icon.
    [/list]

    FINALLY! Especially the part about psychic vortex. Always loved the idea but annoyed by the lack of stuns. Now if this can also apply a chance of stacking ego leeches then we're really in business.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ironswan wrote:
    Power Armor
    • Chest Beam: The debuff applied by this power was incorrectly affecting the damage dealt in the same application as the debuff. The debuff will now correctly take place after the hit, instead of prior to it.
    Is this generally considered a bug? Because there's a lot of powers that do this, and it's a significant nerf to the alpha strike potential of chest beam.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Ignore previous text here, I'm dumb today.

    I'll fill with something better later.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Pantagruel wrote:
    Is this generally considered a bug? Because there's a lot of powers that do this, and it's a significant nerf to the alpha strike potential of chest beam.

    Shhh! Don't tell them about Demolish. They'll "fix" that next. :(

    Also, Fury of the Dragon's damage was just doubled, if I am understanding the patch note correctly. That is very interesting indeed.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    oddTodd wrote:
    Shhh! Don't tell them about Demolish. They'll "fix" that next. :(

    Also, Fury of the Dragon's damage was just doubled, if I am understanding the patch note correctly. That is very interesting indeed.

    I don't think so. I think it was alternating damage types each tick, instead of 50% each type per tick.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    While accessing the Powers window no longer crashed things, I still got a crash when I attempted to buy Particle Rifle.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Asimo wrote:
    While accessing the Powers window no longer crashed things, I still got a crash when I attempted to buy Particle Rifle.

    Its not live yet
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Woops... never mind. I did not read the above post.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    You might want to wait for the patch to be put up first :rolleyes:

    Another hour to go.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    CaptainFabulous wrote:
    You might want to wait for the patch to be put up first :rolleyes:

    Another hour to go.

    NO! Start freaking out right NOW!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Hey gang, I really hate to do this to you but the build we built is having problems. We will have to revisit this in the morning, but I want you to know getting this out it is high on my list. Thanks for your patience.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ironswan wrote:
    Hey gang, I really hate to do this to you but the build we built is having problems. We will have to revisit this in the morning, but I want you to know getting this out it is high on my list. Thanks for your patience.

    I think this sums up how I feel about that
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ironswan wrote:
    Hey gang, I really hate to do this to you but the build we built is having problems. We will have to revisit this in the morning, but I want you to know getting this out it is high on my list. Thanks for your patience.

    NOOOOOOOO!!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ironswan wrote:
    Hey gang, I really hate to do this to you but the build we built is having problems. We will have to revisit this in the morning, but I want you to know getting this out it is high on my list. Thanks for your patience.

    While I think most of us are SNARGLED at the delay, I also feel that your comment LETTING US KNOW of the delay is greatly appreciated.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Well... I appreciate the update. Looking forward to testing these at some point.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    WarCan wrote:
    While I think most of us are SNARGLED at the delay, I also feel that your comment LETTING US KNOW of the delay is greatly appreciated.

    Seconded.

    Still gonna be a sad fox, but I'll deal. :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    YuriFoxfirega wrote:
    Seconded.

    Still gonna be a sad fox, but I'll deal. :(

    third...ed... or something like that :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ironswan wrote:
    Hey gang, I really hate to do this to you but the build we built is having problems. We will have to revisit this in the morning, but I want you to know getting this out it is high on my list. Thanks for your patience.
    Things break, that's no problem. We'll wait, patiently, working ourselves into a testing frenzy, chomping at the bit to get on there and TEST STUFF UNTIL IT BREAKS! RAAAAAAAH!

    *deep breath*

    It's okay. I'm calm.

    *deep breath*

    Thanks for letting us know, ironswan. It makes all the difference.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I'm really encouraged about the attention being paid to Psychic Vortex and Fury of the Dragon. Those are two powers that players have been wanting to use. In my opinion, it's as valuable as releasing two new powers.

    Speaking of, Tiger's Bite has an issue (since F2P) with damage ranks - you can actually reduce your damage by consuming Shredded at rank 3. Full detail in this post by another player: link.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    skeeterbarnes wrote:
    I'm really encouraged about the attention being paid to Psychic Vortex and Fury of the Dragon. Those are two powers that players have been wanting to use. In my opinion, it's as valuable as releasing two new powers.

    Speaking of, Tiger's Bite has an issue (since F2P) with damage ranks - you can actually reduce your damage by consuming Shredded at rank 3. Full detail in this post by another player: link.

    Unfortunately they haven't fixed the weird pathing with Vortex that makes the R2 and R3 version of it fly away from the bad guys and do nothing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    SoulStarisborn wrote:
    I think this sums up how I feel about that

    http://9.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/86/11/c2aa7883768fbdbe26a5f7a3aec12127.jpg
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I think with all these new powers we should get a new passive that boosts energy damage.

    Hmmmn I have an idea for a new Passive called Energy Core.....TO THE SUGGESTIONS SUB FORUM. *Lightspeeds away*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Stringz wrote:
    I think with all these new powers we should get a new passive that boosts energy damage.

    Hmmmn I have an idea for a new Passive called Energy Core.....TO THE SUGGESTIONS SUB FORUM. *Lightspeeds away*

    electric form?:rolleyes: *darkspeeds away*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Thread: http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=135778

    And I know Electric Form is one, but I have given reason why Energy Damage should receive a second passive.

    Every other damage type has atleast two or more passives to boost specifically the damage type. While Energy damage just has Electric Form.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Moreover, Electric Form has a pretty intrusive graphic.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Stringz wrote:
    Thread: http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?t=135778

    And I know Electric Form is one, but I have given reason why Energy Damage should receive a second passive.

    Every other damage type has atleast two or more passives to boost specifically the damage type. While Energy damage just has Electric Form.

    Or, they could make electric form not so god awful ugly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    They could always add a 0 point advantage that removes the visuals from electric form.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Yngorion wrote:
    They could always add a 0 point advantage that removes the visuals from electric form.

    Devs have said they hate ZPAs or they could've just added it to every passive like AoRP.

    And the intrusive fx is the primary reason I do not enjoy Electric Form. =[
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Stringz wrote:
    Devs have said they hate ZPAs or they could've just added it to every passive like AoRP.

    And the intrusive fx is the primary reason I do not enjoy Electric Form. =[


    if the Devs hate Zero Point Advantages why did they give mental Discipline one. since its a new toggle power for tk?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    So people dont complain about not having enough ways to get Id blades, since many users prefer going Shadow Form or Seraphim ?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    So any ETA on when we are getting a stable build or is Tumerboy the only one in the office this early?

    Now I feel like tacos for lunch...darn you tacoface!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Stringz wrote:
    So people dont complain about not having enough ways to get Id blades, since many users prefer going Shadow Form or Seraphim ?

    So it's almost like they don't like ZPAs, but will use them for cosmetic purposes when players demonstrate sufficient desire? Sounds like a perfect case for electric form.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Yngorion wrote:
    So it's almost like they don't like ZPAs, but will use them for cosmetic purposes when players demonstrate sufficient desire? Sounds like a perfect case for electric form.

    You have to note that the ID blades were a pre-existing feature in the TK set so TK bladers can still enjoy what they had before and not deprive them of their good old dual swords.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I get crash if i try to get new powers
    canz i haz new powers pl0x?=
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Yngorion wrote:
    So it's almost like they don't like ZPAs, but will use them for cosmetic purposes when players demonstrate sufficient desire? Sounds like a perfect case for electric form.

    No. They do it only when they can't achieve functionality any other way. There is a ZPA on AoPR because they created a new graphic for it, thinking people would like it. But many people missed the old one, so they added it back in with a ZPA.

    But in general, no, they have no plans to make ZPAs for every passive.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Stringz wrote:
    You have to note that the ID blades were a pre-existing feature in the TK set so TK bladers can still enjoy what they had before and not deprive them of their good old dual swords.

    You also have to note that it is purely cosmetic and doesn't have any effect on how the powers function. I would think adding a 'no electric aura' advantage to electric form would be easier than creating an entirely new passive, but what do I know.


    EDIT: I don't see where I suggested adding ZPAs to every passive, perhaps you could point it out for me?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    ironswan wrote:
    Hey gang, I really hate to do this to you but the build we built is having problems. We will have to revisit this in the morning, but I want you to know getting this out it is high on my list. Thanks for your patience.

    Let us pray...that FIXING what is reported by users, is even higher on the list, than is your rush to copy test data to live.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Yngorion wrote:
    You also have to note that it is purely cosmetic and doesn't have any effect on how the powers function. I would think adding a 'no electric aura' advantage to electric form would be easier than creating an entirely new passive, but what do I know.

    Not at all. ZPA creates an entirely separate copy of the power. As ZPAs proliferate, it creates a huge amount of extra work for the dev team whenever they go about changing things, due to all the clones of powers.

    The general consensus is that they'd rather create new powers than spend lots of time making quasi-invisible power clones which generate the same amount of work and maintenance as new powers without actually presenting players with something that feels like a new power.

    So far they've done ZPAs for Growth, because they wanted it to be in the game but wanted it to be purely cosmetic and not a real power, so they ZPA'ed it and linked it to Enrage, and they've done them for two cosmetic effects that have always existed in the game, but due to power changes would have been unavailable unless tied back into the game with ZPA's.

    But they aren't going to make ZPA's for all the passives and other powers just to cancel the graphical effects.

    -edit-

    response to your edit: If they make a ZPA just for you, why shouldn't they make one for everyone else who wants to use a power without having the annoying-to-them graphic? In essence, you're asking for a ZPA for every passive. Unless you honestly feel that your personal beef with Electric Form is either shared by all players, or you just live on the moon and think that you personally should get what you want and anyone else who asks for the same should be ignored.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I don't have any beef with electric form, and I happily use it on one of my characters. My suggestion was a response to the people in this very thread that complained about the appearance of electric form.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Yngorion wrote:
    I don't have any beef with electric form, and I happily use it on one of my characters. My suggestion was a response to the people in this very thread that complained about the appearance of electric form.

    And I hope I have sufficiently explained why ZPAs are a last-resort approach for Cryptic, and not something that should be presented as an ideal solution in any case.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Given currently all the energy damage powers (oustide of the 'Energy Projector' set) belong to gadgeteer or power armor, all those of you who want to use a Passive offence, but don't like the look of elec form (Personally, I do and used it on my Gadgeteer until the F2P update) couldn't you just use Targeting Computer?

    That's the advantage of a free-form power choice system, if you don#t like a power, just choose a different one

    p.s. any idea of an ETA for this update?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Pantagruel wrote:
    Is this generally considered a bug? Because there's a lot of powers that do this, and it's a significant nerf to the alpha strike potential of chest beam.

    Yes, it is considered a bug. A power that applies a debuff should not be benefiting from the debuff before it is actually applied. Most of these damage resistance debuffs are intended to help with sustained damage, not make the alpha strike harder. If we wanted that, we would just make the power hit harder.

    I understand it's still a minor nerf, and that is unfortunate, but letting bugs continue on once we have them and can fix them is not going to help anyone long term. A lot of our bug fixes result in buffs to powers, which is nice, as considerably less people seem to be unhappy when those bugs are fixed. ;)
    oddTodd wrote:
    Shhh! Don't tell them about Demolish. They'll "fix" that next. :(

    Also, Fury of the Dragon's damage was just doubled, if I am understanding the patch note correctly. That is very interesting indeed.

    Correct, on both counts.
    Tom_Quantum wrote:
    Unfortunately they haven't fixed the weird pathing with Vortex that makes the R2 and R3 version of it fly away from the bad guys and do nothing.

    We've found the fix for this, it will be in an upcoming build.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Any update on when the new build will be ready Ame or Ironswan? We really want to test those new powers!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Ame wrote:
    Yes, it is considered a bug. A power that applies a debuff should not be benefiting from the debuff before it is actually applied. Most of these damage resistance debuffs are intended to help with sustained damage, not make the alpha strike harder. If we wanted that, we would just make the power hit harder.

    I understand it's still a minor nerf, and that is unfortunate, but letting bugs continue on once we have them and can fix them is not going to help anyone long term. A lot of our bug fixes result in buffs to powers, which is nice, as considerably less people seem to be unhappy when those bugs are fixed. ;)

    Anyone know if U-238 Rounds does this as well?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Ame wrote:

    We've found the fix for this, it will be in an upcoming build.

    You just made my day.

    :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    CaptainFabulous wrote:
    Anyone know if U-238 Rounds does this as well?

    thats a maintain power I don't think its the same.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    CaptainFabulous wrote:
    Anyone know if U-238 Rounds does this as well?

    I think there it is now problem if they do it or not, because its only the question if the first little hit, that applies
    the debuff for alle the following hits, gets a little more damage or not.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    CaptainFabulous wrote:
    Anyone know if U-238 Rounds does this as well?
    Probably, though it doesn't much matter since minigun is low damage tics; on a full maintain (21 tics) it changes your damage from 27*base to 26.7*base (a 1.1% reduction), whereas it's a 10.7% reduction on chest beam and considerably more than that on a charged advantaged demolish.

    I believe advantaged ebon ruin also does the debuff in the wrong order, as does advantaged collective will (not that anyone uses CW), as does ego blade breach.

    Oh, also heatwave (engulfing flames), though again that doesn't matter much.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Tom_Quantum wrote:
    You just made my day.

    :)

    Sweet, now let's see if we can make someone else's day!
    skeeterbarnes wrote:
    Speaking of, Tiger's Bite has an issue (since F2P) with damage ranks - you can actually reduce your damage by consuming Shredded at rank 3. Full detail in this post by another player: link.

    This bug might actually be older than that... but it's fixed now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I cant choose powers the game just crash
    I looked at much topics but didnt find a solution
    help please :(
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