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kaiserin
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- Fixed an issue where the Dominance Beam device could not always be purchased.
Cosmics
- Fixed an issue where Kigatilik did not always wipe his threat if the fight reset.
- Added an FX on the hounds when defeated to indicate the are about to rise.
- Updated the look of the Frost Tomb for better visibility.
Powers
- Fixed an issue where a player power could knock immune targets.
- Fixed an issue with Prismatic Detonation's heal effect not properly triggering.
Devices
- Reverted the change to device cooldown on build swap. This change was unintentionally released into the current live build, but will be added to a future pts build for testing and feedback.
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This is a very bad idea and is extremely disliked, as all the feedback that has appeared on the forum shows. It should NEVER go live in the future in the format that went live over the past week. Please listen to the community. If there are individual devices that are problems, deal with those on an individual basis. Take the time to do things right.
Feedback given: devices being put on cooldown by build swapping is objectively bad in every way, shape and form. Thorough "testing" (pain) done on Live concludes that the only justifiable reason for this change would be if there's some gamebreaking exploit that takes advantage of build swapping to do something glitchy with devices. On the level of a casual player interacting with devices as intended, this is nothing but a bad QoL decrease.
This is my cry for help
Everybody on Live now hates this. Absolutely unnecessary. You already made the change that if you put a device into the device bar, it immediately goes on cooldown. Fine. But now thinking that the devices need to act as if they were just placed there again for a build swap is unwarranted.
Personally, I don't build swap on only but a handful of characters. But this is absurd. Don't do it.
It's already bad enough that there are a multitude of devices that don't get used due to a too-long cooldown. It would be better if you reduced the cooldowns on those devices that only rarely get used because of their cooldown. Especially your favorite drops, the Backup devices.
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"Okay, you're DEAD, what do you do NEXT?"
It would be nice if these could be something other than trash event filler.
Because you know I love switching builds and my Sidekicks going instantly to 5 Minutes CD
If you considering doing that in the future again, DON'T
As mentioned this change went live unintentionally, and we hadn't implemented retaining cooldown states for same-equipped devices yet. When this change does come back to pts, that will be part of it and we'll be looking at feedback for specific devices.
Prior to this, I would think that it was actually a bonus feature of using build swapping.
The guy who formally posted as @Sky_Commander. Now posts as: "劫"
This is still an unneeded, unasked for, absurd idea. You are getting feedback already. There is NO reason to do what you are suggesting. And, pardon if I'm being terse about this, but this type of change simply frustrates me and other players. We see no valid reason to institute it. I'm simply astounded that you, a former player, thinks this change needs to be done at all.
-=-=-=-=-=-(CO in-game handle: @WarCan )-=-=-=-=-=-
"Okay, you're DEAD, what do you do NEXT?"
Then i proceed to change to my tank build that heavily uses devices and pets and... devices and pets are all in a 5 min cooldown.
Some things cannot wait 5 mins, if i'm going to tank in a:
-smash alert, will be finished before my cooldowns
-burst alert, will be finished before my cooldowns
-grab alert, maybe CD's end mid boss fight
-custom alert, same as grab
-any alert, may refresh and be a different alert before my cooldowns
-attack an OV, he may run or die before my cooldowns
What if i'm doing lair content and want to switch to tank for the boss fight for the improved survability? Should i tell everybody to wait 5 mins?
What about doing cosmics as dps, the tank dies and i need to switch fast to cover up? Should i tell Dino or Eido to wait 5 mins?
You may say, the same happens if i die, but i take it as the penalty for dying. What's this new penalty for? Switching builds? So that's a bad and punible thing now?
As I and other people here have told (and a lot more in game that don't post here), this is just wrong, it's a change for the worst, unpractical, unfair, unjustified and just plain horrible.
P.S. If this is to stop some players for doing an (unknown for us) exploit, and you have detected it, the go ban the people doing it, don't punish the rest of us.
I had a vehicle build just so I wouldn't have to spend a slot on it in my combat builds, and I always had the vehicle ready to use.
The guy who formally posted as @Sky_Commander. Now posts as: "劫"
Clearly, what is needed here is a careful review of the devices that are causing problems and then a reworking of those devices only, not an across the board hammering of all devices which is just going to annoy the entire player base (and I can not stress that last part too much). I, for one, am fine with putting new PVDs on the back burner to free up time to deal with this issue in a more thoughtful manner.
Jaazaniah1 illustrated our concerns nicely. I agree with it.
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"Okay, you're DEAD, what do you do NEXT?"
If Champions Online was meant to have 30 device slots, you would have had 30 device slots.
Instead, you have 5. You may have to make choices about what to bring, and that's okay. It's how they were designed. What folks exploit with build swap (among other things) is that it ignores the reality that in Champions Online, equipping a new device normally causes it to go on cooldown first. =)
Whatever minor advantages players have from the current swapping of devices LET THEM HAVE IT!!! It makes the game enjoyable, and I think that this very important aspect is being overlooked here.