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lezard21
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Just sampling a bit for another topic I have in mind o3o In the meantime discuss what you like about OV, what you don't like and what you would like to see changed
Do you enjoy Onslaught Villain Content? 43 votes
Yes
9%
4 votes
No
69%
30 votes
Indifferent
20%
9 votes
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Edit: The only reason I've even looked at it is because I want to get my hands on some slicers... beyond those I don't see anything worth the misery and even then they are barely worth it.
Long travel times between action? Check.
Limited build? Check.
Wait... was I making a list of why OV is boring, or why leveling up via missions is boring? They seem to be the same list.
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I am not sure anything I could suggest would be a good change to this mechanic. I have been playing an OV and been berrated for killing people, I've been accused of 'cheating' or lying because I killed people that came to attack me for Guardian points. People suffer this content for the stuff and the smoothest way to get through it, at least for me, is to ask my friends with tongue in cheek if they wouldn't mind coming and dying for me.
At the same time people that have unlocked the Villains do use them to give people points in a commnuity goodness that people in this game often display. This is people working around poor content though, not enjoying it, at least as far as I can see.
If it were not for the useful things you can get from the store no-one would touch this content. The Guardian/Villain tokens would be as useless as Acclaim.
but players in fight who can Drag out their Devices from their Tooltip near death to Deny Tokens
So I get punished with 1 Hour penalty because at least once per day the game will get disconected! But people who were exploiting the device-drag didn't ಠ_ಠ
I find it quite funny that the vendor stats in his FAQ states that if you unslot the device you get punished with the Debuff, however this hasn't been working since the launch of this update
I HATE this update
The only Redeemable thing which came out from the Onslaugh update are the OSV secondediers (EXCEPT of Gloves of Saviour but hey +55 Presense for healers
And THANKS GOD Devs let us PVE-farm this event by just defeating Until Defenders without the need to engage combat against other players! It takes 1 and a Half mod for full Secondaries i'm a patient man and I got all my FFs OSV secondaries
Call me a madman but I have all OSV powers and costumes unlocked.
Was it worth it? No
Especially after my favorite power, Lance Rain, got a 20 sec CD. Still great AOE Damage power, but the CD-Charging time ratio is BS especially on team-content where your allies will kill your main target before you even charge the darn thing... while rely on having 5 stacks of Ego Leech and PRAY the power will Critical HIT!
Nuclear wave got 30 secs CD with barely any synergy with the might powerframe
TL;DR
Epic Stronghold
Block timing explained
- badly implemented
- buggy (disconnect and debuff)
- the community is not on a state for such a feature
- pvp part sucks
- only good rewards are the gear and maybe the costumes (outside of the 2 out of 3 kind of useful powers)
- exploitable with extra accounts (skips the grind)
- not so many villains
- troll bait for events and OMs
This is a big journey, so far if you're reading this, wish you a good day
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The idea of buying a random bit of either OV stuff or other rep stuff for Q isn't bad. The price would have to be steep though.
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From my perspective, Supervillain Onslaught:
But as Onslaught exists currently, it's not "Let's defeat the Supervillain!"/"Haha, I am a Villain and will terrorize the City!" and far more often a scenario in which Zone sees a "Passive OV in RenCen diving in x minutes" message, while Heroes grab the quest, run back and then wail on a statue for a few minutes a couple yards away from Defender.
I lack any ideas on how to make it more engaging, more exciting, more fun for both sides involved (perhaps even more so for the Supervillains themselves..who are already dodging turrets and a dwindling timer).
PS. (What's rather unfortunate is that the Onslaught Store needs an almost absurd amount of currency from both sides - one being far easier to obtain - making it a grind rather than fun for me. I also find it annoying that the current 'best' Secondary Offense items in the game are behind a PVP Wall. I accept that these are a personal problem.)
That's going on the buzz phrase list o3o
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He got Banned! Serve him right
While I'm glad he got banned... he's actually just using the OV system as designed. Which shows you how little thought was put into said design.
Dammit, cause of you they're gonna double the OV system!
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Pretty sure we've had one of those here before.
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Griefing is against the game rules, he had malicious intentions and he was enjoying it and abused an oversight to reward himself while ruining the Open Mission
He deserved everything about this Ban and I hope he rot in hell
Can we really call intentionally being hit by ambient damage an oversight at this point? People have been doing it since day one of the OV release. If the devs choose to knowingly leave broken toys around, then they are largely to blame.
Now tell me you're not using the presence of a word in the title of the content to justify breaking the TOS and griefing...
Well no, because it has been explicitely stated that this is griefing, and has been enforced thusly. Anyone who gets busted for it only has themselves to blame, just like someone driving the wrong way down a one way road - I mean, cars can go in that direction on that road, so how is it my fault I did that? If you can do it, it's not breaking the rules!
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Day 1 OV was a bad idea because people were unwillingly in the crossfire.
I don’t agree with going to events to get kills....but I don’t agree he is violating the TOS because it’s what the OV are for, to kill players.
But my point with the word...if you are going to say someone is malice in their actions, don’t give the player malice content.
Hell...we have whiny players who feel sexually objectified during dev ran CCs because they looked at their cartoon butt. Should the dev be banned now?
Where is it explicitly stated? I get that the dingy back alleys of the forum are your natural habitat, but I don't remember seeing these rules posted anywhere. You can't drive a car without a license, and you can't get a license without being tested on the rules. Maybe I'm missing it, but the onslaught guy isn't telling me anything about responsible use of the device.
Because shooting people is against the law, so why should you be surprised when you get put in jail?
Pretty sure the TOS make it clear that griefing is against the rules. Not sure what your hatred of the forums...that you post on... has to do with that lol
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So since no murder, no law was broken.
Epic Stronghold
Block timing explained
Epic Stronghold
Block timing explained
You said that it was explicitly stated that this behavior was griefing. My question is not "is griefing against tos?" it is "where is this behavior explicitly called griefing?" It doesn't seem to be anywhere obvious.
My point is this... if you fill a playground with half-painted chunks of jagged metal and call them toys, you probably should take some blame when one kid cuts another kid.
Just gonna point out, the kid who stabbed another kid is going to be punished. Soooooooooooo, you agree the griefer should be punished. Good talk!
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But clearly this is the point where you stop having an actual conversation and start your your passive trolling ways.
Fun while it lasted.
Epic Stronghold
Block timing explained
what world do you live in where children don't get punished for stabbing each other??? I've heard some real whoppers but that one's going in top five.
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Obviously they should do something about the exploit, and they clearly agree since they've done things to make it harder to successfully use it. Like I dunno why you're arguing that, everyone agrees with you already - like find me the person who says "no leave the exploits that stuff is hot!".
The thing people might disagree with you is if you try to say that it's fine for people to do it because the devs can't successfully completely remove the exploit. I don't give even the slightest crap what percentage of the blame you want to arbitrarily assign to which group, someone knowingly using an exploit to grief is a griefer and they are at fault for their actions, no percentages needed.
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How many stabbed kids before someone goes “hmm....maybe it’s this razor sharp play ground and not the kids fault”
Maybe....just maybe it’s the people who built the death trap? You think? Hmm?
One can only imagine what your other top 4 are it that concept is so beyond you.
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> Obviously they should do something about the exploit, and they clearly agree since they've done things to make it harder to successfully use it. Like I dunno why you're arguing that, everyone agrees with you already - like find me the person who says "no leave the exploits that stuff is hot!".
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> The thing people might disagree with you is if you try to say that it's fine for people to do it because the devs can't successfully completely remove the exploit. I don't give even the slightest crap what percentage of the blame you want to arbitrarily assign to which group, someone knowingly using an exploit to grief is a griefer and they are at fault for their actions, no percentages needed.
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Not an exploit.
It’s poor design and because of that people unwillingly join content they didn’t mean to join.
What they need is an actual notification, like PvP that says “Do you wish to participate in OV?”
Then that solves everything. But no way shape or form should someone with an OV be banned for using the content provided.
Hell...they could make an OV cancellation dome around OM Events that instantly kills any OV...but Devs have abandoned OV.