I hate to say it but I'm done with the Winter Event because of this.
I don't mind 'some' grinding for new items, but this is too much. I don't need a second job called a game that is supposed to entertain me. Instead of me playing more, this change has had the complete opposite effect. Not a good step Cryptic.
I understand they wanted to do this to keep people from 'stockpiling' currency for next year, but isn't there some better way to restrict this activity? (STO simply has 'yearly' currency that is only good for that year's event).
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I sure am enticed to open a bag that has chances to drop:
This event has single-handedly killed all my christmas spirit. It has had tangible real-life effects on my experience and perception of what christmas is. I have regressed into a scrooge state. I'm growing green hair all over my body as my heart shrivels to one-third its original size. I have become the anti-christmas.
as for Stockings, yeah they are worthless
There's been some odd mishandling of this event in general, such as Santa only showing up on the 27th instead of the 25th because Thursdays are extremely powerful in Cryptic time. Also the fun hiccups of Schrodinger's Clarence on that day.
Uh... you can still farm currency by running March of the Mecha Soldiers and Clarence you know. But hey, if you wanna throw the baby out with the bathwater go for it. Babies are stupid anyways and it's too cold for baths o3o
I dunno, I got some costumes out of the crackers so, less farming for me I guess. Also been using all the healing items it gives. Neat stuff.
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I bought one item and that's about it. Idk why this event was so disappointing tbh
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Taking currency out of stockings has made them worthless, just as the op said.
All they drop is trash of no use that you drown in if you open them, nothing of value and too much of it!
Just think of stockings as being stuffed with resources then. I mean personally I actually use all the healing items in them.
Hmmm, I'm sure I can make a meme with this new "You're giving us too many rewards" thing o3o
I agree... I guess.. I mean I did at one point sit there doing the toy quests a bunch and it did get me to 400 tokens for that ice cape. I'm not gonna do it again... but that's mainly cause I got the ice cape already.
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Crates go for 99s on the exchange right now. So yes o3o
I just noticed Toy Crates have varying vendor prices. Some are 55L, some are 10N, and some are 13N .-.
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You make use of all the healing items, suuuure you do, there are not 1, not 2, not even 3, but 5 different healing items, meaning you get a healing item pretty much every other stocking, just how many healing items are you using!?!?
I've had thousands, and that's LITERALLY and not exaggerating, but THOUSANDS of stockings, which also would translate to well over a thousand healing items, and the event is only just over halfway!
As to a meme about too many rewards, that's not what i'm saying, i'm saying they are just piling trash upon us that has zero use, all it does is make us take the effort to destroy things we cant use - that isn't a reward !
Either they need to put something worthwhile back into the stockings to replace the previously only worthwhile item they removed (winter charms) or stop dropping them like water we have to take the time to pour down the drain. In other words for those who don't understand metaphors, don't keep throwing thousands of things at us we need to manually destroy as they are useless - that's a burden NOT a reward.
Finally again saying the toy crates are worthwhile is irrelevant, they don't come from stockings, which the complaint is about - the stockings now being worthless.
Also what are you manually destroying? Just vendor the stockings if you don't wanna deal with what's in them. I don't get the obsession with the idea that stockings must have something great in them. They're just a collateral reward you get from doing winter event stuff. They certainly aren't the whole of the winter event... it'd be really weird to be like "WELP stockings don't have anything good in them, winter event is pointless". The main draw of the event is the vendor rewards, and every activity in the event still gives currency for that. Guess what I'm saying is... who cares about stockings? Not me, so I don't see what the big deal is.
Well... unless they add some really nice xmas stockings as a reward on the vendor... now that I would care about!
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Anyway, back to the point.
When the stockings could drop winter charms they had a use and a value, without them they don't. They are not even worth selling at 65L each it takes 153 to get 1G. You can get as much selling 1 yellow cracker on the AH as you can from 1500 stockings - 75 STACKS of them!
Thats throwing thousands of useless items around like water as I said, and is totally pointless, not having them drop would be preferable.
Either they need to make them worthwhile by having something worthwhile in them, or they should cut the drop rate to 1/10 and make them 10 times as good (even if its just in vendor price) so instead of flooding you with thousands of worthless items you get hundreds of small value items at least.
I'm not sure where this arbitrary requirement of using up the healing items in a certain period of time came from. What I said was that I use them. Then you tried to attach some sort of "you must use x in period y" stipulation which still doesn't really make any sense to me. I use them when I take damage. Happens.
If they're not worth selling, are they somehow more worth manually deleting? Again, you're attaching some arbitrary "need to be worth X resources" stipulation here, when what was said was "if you don't want to bother with what's in them, just vendor them" because that's convenient. But as far as resource value, Jon already pointed out that he got over 100G from the various drops during the event, so that says something to the vendor value of the stockings and their contents.
Even the whole idea that "stockings need to have X value of rewards" is completely arbitrary. Why do they need to have a given value? They're just collateral rewards you get from doing winter event stuff. They don't take any extra effort to acquire, you get them as a consequence of farming Winter currency. So long as they give more than 0 then they're just extra free stuff. Sure they take up bag space, but that would seem to more logically lead to us asking for bigger bags, not less rewards.
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I take this quote from a review that I agree with.
"customisation is so linear; everyone is after the optimal dps:survivability ratio with 0 reliance on other players = autonomous gameplay... Players don't need each other anymore... which in my opinion is a bad thing."
1) Just because something's free, that doesn't make it good. I've started discarding them because it's less work than selling them for the pittance they're worth. If I could buy a "Stocking/Toy Crate Vaporizer" device that prevented them from ever reaching my inventory at all, I'd gladly do so.
2) For me, it logically it just leads to #1. I don't want to carry around crap that has no value. I found like 100+ toy crates on one of mine and there's NO WAY I'm going to bother opening those. They're going in the dumpster.
That's basically the most insane thing you've ever said.
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Not really. Not every free thing IS innately good. Not bad either though, it's just inconsequential at best or complete crap(and rightfully free) at worst. I throw away the toy boxes as they're clutter and I already got all the perks.
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Maybe they don't like juice boxes? :P. idk. I'd honestly if I didn't like them throw them away. What's to lose?
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Yeah I'll take it. It's going right in my garden
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Time is a valuable commodity too you know.
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You want holiday tokens? Just do mission "misfit toys" every day. o3o
- stockings: I only use the social items like snowballs and mistletoes. Everything else gets dumped. Life is too short for the rest of this trash.
- crates: stopped doing the AF missions because I've been at max currency for 2 weeks (no interest in anything in the store), so now I sell all of the crates
- crackers: gold are great, purple are good, maybe I'll sell what comes from a yellow (everything else is trash)
There's no time for Smash, we have to farm Winter Bear, and as a side effect of doing that we get free stockings. So sure you go waste your time in Smash, everyone else is gonna farm Winter Bear and then get free G o3o
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